US did more than UK and USSR to defeat Nazi Germany

B00Mer

Keep Calm and Carry On
Sep 6, 2008
44,800
7,297
113
Rent Free in Your Head
www.getafteritmedia.com
US did more than UK and USSR to defeat Nazi Germany

The United States receives the most credit for defeating Adolf Hitler's Germany during World War Two, according to a YouGov poll



As the world celebrates the 70th anniversary of Allied victory in Europe, millions in the UK will honour the role played by British forces in the defeating Nazi Germany.

According to a new poll, however, most other countries look to the United States as the country that did the most to vanquish Adolf Hitler.

A YouGov survey asked respondents from the US, Britain, and several European countries who they thought was most essential to defeating Germany in the Second World War and the US was the top choice in all but the UK and Norway.
In the US, France and Germany, Britain came third behind America and the Soviet Union. Some of the German respondents included a write-in choice: "Germany itself".

While the USSR trailed significantly in many of the countries sampled, the Soviets suffered the greatest losses of any of the Allies.



An estimated 24 million Soviet combatants and civilians died in the war, compared to 450,000 Brits and 420,000 Americans.

Both Britain and the USSR fought longer than the US, which did not declare war on Germany until December, 1941, following the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Britain and France declared war on Germany in September of 1939, following the invasion of Poland, while the USSR began four years of fierce combat with the Nazis following Hitler's invasion of the country in June, 1941.

While there were no Russians sampled by YouGov, a 2009 study found that nearly two-thirds of Russians said that the Soviet Union could have defeated Nazi Germany on its own, and nine-in-ten believed the USSR played the decisive role in the war. More Russians polled said that Britain's role in the war was "insignificant", as opposed to "very large".

The countries were led during the war by three of the 20th century's most iconic leaders: Winston Churchill, Franklin D Roosevelt, and Joseph Stalin

source:
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
6
36
The irony is that the neutral U.S.A. had a decidedly pro-German bias prior to Germany declaring war on the U.S.. Then again, the Soviet Union had a non-aggression pact with Germany prior to their being attacked by the same. Neither of these super powers was very good at picking their friends, it would seem.
 

damngrumpy

Executive Branch Member
Mar 16, 2005
9,949
21
38
kelowna bc
Colpy is right. There were ninety divisions on the western front and one hundred nighty
on the Russian Front. Without Russia Germany might well have found room for a treaty
without total surrender or worse. Don't sell the Russians short on this. At the same time
remember Ford trucks were being made in Russia and the Americans armed the million
man army that came out of nowhere at Stalingrad To suggest the Americans were the
Lone Ranger is nosense
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
6
36
Colpy is right. There were ninety divisions on the western front and one hundred nighty
on the Russian Front. Without Russia Germany might well have found room for a treaty
without total surrender or worse. Don't sell the Russians short on this. At the same time
remember Ford trucks were being made in Russia and the Americans armed the million
man army that came out of nowhere at Stalingrad To suggest the Americans were the
Lone Ranger is nosense

The star spangled lone ranger bit is an Hollywood invention. Unfortunately, those who remember what actually happened are mostly dead and American culture continues on with their ersatz mythology passing as history. It will likely never be put right.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
The star spangled lone ranger bit is an Hollywood invention. Unfortunately, those who remember what actually happened are mostly dead and American culture continues on with their ersatz mythology passing as history. It will likely never be put right.

You are minimizing the weapons, ammunition, equipment, material to build factories, all shipped to the USSR.
Lend-Lease - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Russia's Life-Saver: Lend-Lease Aid to the U.S.S.R. in World War II (Book Review)

Lend-Lease: Facts and Numbers | IIP Digital
 

Curious Cdn

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 22, 2015
37,070
6
36

By the way, Canada did that too ... supplied tanks, trucks and aircraft made here in Canada and supplied the escorts to get them there on the EXTREMELY dangerous Murmansk run (which the RCN did together with the RN). You can do the Holluywood thing and ignore that it was an alliance that won the War, not Tom Hanks with a Tommy gun.

Those Americans that landed at Utah and Ohamha beach drove way west and south ... right around the main battle of Normandy that was fought by the Canadians, British, Free French, Free Poles, etc. around Caen. No wonder they drove into Paris. Someone else engaged the main body of the German army. Did you know that? Does the "history" that you are taught allow you to know that?
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
95
48
USA
Those Americans that landed at Utah and Ohamha beach drove way west and south ... right around the main battle of Normandy that was fought by the Canadians, British, Free French, Free Poles, etc. around Caen. No wonder they drove into Paris. Someone else engaged the main body of the German army. Did you know that? Does the "history" that you are taught allow you to know that?

Now you're being foolish.

Just as foolish as the OPs claim.
 

Goober

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 23, 2009
24,691
116
63
Moving
By the way, Canada did that too ... supplied tanks, trucks and aircraft made here in Canada and supplied the escorts to get them there on the EXTREMELY dangerous Murmansk run (which the RCN did together with the RN). You can do the Holluywood thing and ignore that it was an alliance that won the War, not Tom Hanks with a Tommy gun.

Those Americans that landed at Utah and Ohamha beach drove way west and south ... right around the main battle of Normandy that was fought by the Canadians, British, Free French, Free Poles, etc. around Caen. No wonder they drove into Paris. Someone else engaged the main body of the German army. Did you know that? Does the "history" that you are taught allow you to know that?

Yes I am aware of that, my father made the Murmansk run.
I only read approved history books that glorify one side and minimize or condemn others efforts.
 

taxslave

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 25, 2008
36,362
4,337
113
Vancouver Island
Yes I am aware of that, my father made the Murmansk run.
I only read approved history books that glorify one side and minimize or condemn others efforts.

Unfortunately Goobs that is what a large number of US history books do. THen most of your population believes everything Hollywierd throws out thjere.
 

Sal

Hall of Fame Member
Sep 29, 2007
17,135
33
48
According to a new poll, however, most other countries look to the United States as the country that did the most to vanquish Adolf Hitler.
:roll: d*ck wagging really has no end to it does it
 

Walter

Hall of Fame Member
Jan 28, 2007
34,844
93
48
Colpy is right. There were ninety divisions on the western front and one hundred nighty
on the Russian Front. Without Russia Germany might well have found room for a treaty
without total surrender or worse. Don't sell the Russians short on this. At the same time
remember Ford trucks were being made in Russia and the Americans armed the million
man army that came out of nowhere at Stalingrad To suggest the Americans were the
Lone Ranger is nosense
My source says 150 in the East and 66 in the West.
Number of German divisions by front in World War II
 

EagleSmack

Hall of Fame Member
Feb 16, 2005
44,168
95
48
USA
Unfortunately Goobs that is what a large number of US history books do. THen most of your population believes everything Hollywierd throws out thjere.


I would like to see these books. Can you suggest any?


I mean... if you read a book on the Battle of Midway you are going to read about the USN kicking the snot out of the Japanese Navy. Sorry... it is just what happened.


And by all means... if Canada wants to put a movie out about Juno Beach then go for it. What is stopping them? Saving Private Ryan was a fictional movie about Americans in Normandy. Parts that were accurate are many of the scenes from D-Day/Omaha Beach from the book The Longest Day.


The Germans made a fictional movie about Stalingrad and they only showed ... get this Germans and Soviets! The nerve of them!