Scientists discover three NEW, man made global warming gasses

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Scientists discover three new global warming gases

Twenty-five years after the world first moved to protect the ozone layer, British scientists have found three new potentially damaging gases in the atmosphere.

While they do not expect the gases to do much damage to the ozone layer, they think they may add to global warming.

The scientists, at the University of East Anglia (UEA), in the UK, have found two new chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs) and one new hydrochlorofluorocarbon (HCFC). Their research, published in the journal Atmosphere, appears shortly after the same team found four other man-made gases in March this year.

They made the discovery by comparing samples of today???s air with samples collected between 1978 and 2012 in the unpolluted air of Tasmania, and samples taken during aircraft flights. Their measurements show that two of the new gases have reached the atmosphere in recent years.

Harmful effects

Ozone protects living things against the harmful effects of ultra-violet radiation from the sun, which can cause cancer and blindness in humans, as well as harming crops and wildlife on land and at sea.

Scientists discovered in 1985 that CFCs ??? the man-made gases used mainly in refrigerants and aerosols ??? were damaging the Earth???s protective layer of ozone over the Antarctic, thinning it and causing what has become known as ???the ozone hole???. A similar, but less marked, weakening occurs over the Arctic as well.

That led to the world???s governments agreeing the Montreal Protocol in 1987. The production of all CFCs was banned in 2010, and the prediction was that, if countries observed the Protocol strictly, the damage to the ozone layer would be repaired by mid-century.

Dr Johannes Laube, from UEA???s school of environmental sciences, said: ???Two of the gases that we found earlier in the year were particularly worrying because they were still accumulating significantly up until 2012.

???Emission increases of this scale have not been seen for any other CFCs since controls were introduced during the 1990s, but they are nowhere near peak CFC emissions of the 1980s.???

He said the three gases that had now been identified were in much lower concentrations than the ones found in March, so they were unlikely to threaten the ozone layer. But the findings strengthened the team???s argument that there are many more gases in the atmosphere that still await identification, and which together might well have an impact.

Corinna Kloss, who undertook the research while at UEA and is now at the J??lich Research Centre in Germany, said: ???All seven gases were only around in the atmosphere in very small amounts before the 1980s, with four not present at all before the 1960s, which suggests they are man-made.

Possible sources

???Where these new gases are coming from should be investigated. Possible sources include industrial solvents, feedstock chemicals, and refrigerants.???

But there is a further concern over the chemicals that destroy the ozone layer, and that is their ability also to intensify global warming.

Dr Laube told the Climate News Network that the concentrations of all three newly-discovered gases were about one-tenth of those found in March. None seemed to have drastically increased in concentration in recent years, so he thought they were unlikely to be a problem to the ozone layer in the foreseeable future.

On global warming, however, one gas (HCFC-225ca) had been estimated as being 127 times stronger than CO2 on a per kg basis. This, Dr Laube estimated, meant an impact equivalent to about 50,000 tonnes of CO2 for 2012.

???For the two CFCs, global warming potentials are currently unknown,??? he said. ???If we look at other similar CFCs, they are likely to be 5,000 to 10,000 times more effective than CO2.???

This meant a best estimate for 2012 of emissions by one gas equivalent to 50,000 to 100,000 tonnes, and of 40,000 to 80,000 tonnes of carbon dioxide by the other gas.

For comparison, global CO2 emissions in 2011 were estimated by the Netherlands Environmental Assessment Agency at 34 billion tones.

Scientists discover new global warming gases
 

#juan

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I stopped at the point where it was revealed that the 'scientists' were from East Anglia University

Jesus Christ! Einstein at one time was a dropout. While East Anglia University might not be Harvard, I'm sure their professors
have all the required qualifications. If they are wrong, they will be proven wrong. They haven't yet.
 

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Jesus Christ! Einstein at one time was a dropout. While East Anglia University might not be Harvard, I'm sure their professors
have all the required qualifications. If they are wrong, they will be proven wrong. They haven't yet.


You are aware of why he said he stopped at East Anglia University aren't you?
 

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Jesus Christ! Einstein at one time was a dropout. While East Anglia University might not be Harvard, I'm sure their professors have all the required qualifications. If they are wrong, they will be proven wrong. They haven't yet.

The brain-trust at East Anglia conspired to 'fix' the results.

Any comparison to Einstein is entirely unreasonable
 

#juan

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The University of East Anglia has been highly ranked in the world. I see no reason to condemn the whole school
out of hand because of this latest unproven scandal. It may turn out that these charges will be proven but they haven't yet.
 

captain morgan

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The University of East Anglia has been highly ranked in the world. I see no reason to condemn the whole school
out of hand because of this latest unproven scandal. It may turn out that these charges will be proven but they haven't yet.

The raft of leaked emails spoke volumes, there is no 2-ways about it.

As a result, the University has been impacted not only in reputation, but also things like research funding from gvt and the private sector... That in itself does not 'condemn' the University, but the optics are foul and the benefits of that research and funding are being channeled into other institutions that don't have that questionable baggage.