#YesAllWomen: A viral message that forgets vital details


SLM
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#YesAllWomen: A viral message that forgets vital details

Missing from the conversation on Twitter? Elliot Rodger’s victims

By Emma Teitel | Maclean's – 19 hours ago


The Canadian Press - A note addressed to George Chen, 20, of San Jose, Calif., one of three men found stabbed to death in the apartment of Elliott Rodger, is seen outside the apartment where he lived in the Isla Vista neighborhood of Goleta, Calif., Monday, May 26, 2014. Six people, all students at nearby University of California, Santa Barbara, were killed before Rodger was killed by gunfire in the 10-minute rampage Friday, May 23. (AP Photo/Christopher Weber)

In the movie Citizen Ruth, a dark comedy from 1996, an indigent, drug-addicted mother of many, Ruth Stoops, finds herself pregnant and alone in a court of law. She’s been arrested for sniffing patio sealant and is facing charges for endangering her unborn child. However, the judge presiding over the case tells Ruth that if she aborts her fetus, he’ll reduce her sentence. After a chance meeting with anti-abortion protesters in a holding cell, Ruth is convinced to keep her baby, and is received warmly into the evangelical Christian, pro-life fold. She’s also wooed by fervent pro-choicers, a pair of plaid-clad lesbians who serenade the moon.
The end of the film finds Ruth, the poster child of a debate she doesn’t understand, huddled in the bathroom of an abortion clinic, a protest raging on outside its walls. With $15,000 cash given to her by a rogue activist (I won’t reveal why, or what becomes of the unborn baby), she makes a desperate decision to try to escape before anyone can spot her. When she gets outside though, she takes one glance at the pulsating, pontificating throng—fists clenched, faces contorted—and realizes something remarkable: they’ve forgotten all about her.
She exits through the crowd, unnoticed.
This is, metaphorically, exactly the way the victims of Elliot Rodger exited the world.
On the weekend, George Chen, Weihan Wang, Katherine Breann Cooper, Cheng Yuan Hong, Christopher Ross Michaels-Martinez and Veronika Elizabeth Weiss were murdered near the University of California at Santa Barbara. Rodger, a privileged loner, misogynist and failed “pick-up artist,” decided it was time to exact revenge on a world that had denied him everything he felt entitled to: women, power, respect. The misogynist online screed he left in his murderous wake has—despite the fact he killed more men than women—ignited a feminist firestorm. And his victims’ deaths, like Ruth Stoop’s unborn child in Citizen Ruth, have given onlookers and activists a platform for political and emotional grandstanding. Meanwhile, his victims, like Ruth and other handy plot devices, have been conveniently forgotten.
The agent of this collective amnesia? #YesAllWomen.
It’s the Twitter hashtag—aka the great aggregator and diluter of ideas—that’s taking the continent by storm. It picked up steam originally as an indignant response to #NotAllMen, a now far less popular hashtag started to convey the somewhat obvious reality that “not all men” are woman-hating murderers. Its iterations range from the occasionally harrowing, to the mostly precious and inane: In the words of Australian actress Adelaide Kane, retweeted a total of 4,573 times, “Not ALL men harass women. But ALL women have, at some point, been harassed by men. #YesAllWomen.” Some other samplings, these ones described as “sobering” in The Atlantic, include:
“#YesAllWomen learn to say, ‘Sorry, I have a boyfriend’ because we are only safe if we are another man’s property.
“Because men joke about how girls always have to go to the bathroom in groups but they are the reason we do so. #YesAllWomen.” (And all this time I thought it was to gossip).
The argument behind the hashtag runs this way: Rodger was a misogynist and a consumer of hyper-masculine culture. Therefore, masculinity in all its gradations is to blame for his crimes. “If angry, sometimes violent, men are actively defining the entire gender,” Denise Balkissoon writes in the Globe and Mail, “every guy looking away is letting them get away with it. By virtue of existence, you’re in on it.”
It’s strange that the progressive voices usually relied on to rebuff typically conservative, intellectually vacant arguments—about marijuana as a gateway drug, Islam as an innate harbinger of terrorism, or Marilyn Manson as a catalyst in the Columbine shootings—have championed a culture-breeds-atrocity theory: In this case, the theory that reading a Maxim on the toilet here, and attending a men’s rights conference there, has convinced males they have a social licence to kill. The same rule, I imagine, does not apply in reverse. How many feminists would so readily pin radical feminist Valerie Solanas’s 1968 assassination attempt of Andy Warhol on the women’s movement? Culture is a neutral force, it seems, until the victims in question are female.
Speaking of Marilyn Manson, those who have embraced #yesallwomen would be well-advised to consider the singer’s response to Michael Moore’s now-famous question in his 2002 documentary Bowling for Columbine. What, Moore asks, would Manson say to the kids at Columbine High School about the 1999 shootings that took 13 lives. “I wouldn’t say a single word to them,” Manson responds. “I would listen to what they have to say.”
But listening seems out of fashion these days, maybe because we can’t stop talking — not even for a millisecond. (I refreshed the #YesAllWomen Twitter feed three times while writing this and my browser crashed twice.) Apparently there’s no better occasion than the aftermath of a mass murder to wax poetic about your distaste for public masturbators and sexist Happy Meal toys. Pay no mind to the six lives untimely ripped from this world in cold blood. They’re merely a springboard for a more sobering conversation about the bourgeois inequities of the Western woman.


http://ca.news.yahoo.com/-yesallwome...171527444.html
 
Tecumsehsbones
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So, Ms Teitel expects a complex, nuanced, multifaceted argument, no doubt with footnotes to peer-reviewed journals) in 140 characters?

This is double cherry-picking. She cherry-picks the content of #YesAllWomen to find the statements that best support her thesis, and ignores the others. She also assumes in her article that #YesAllWomen is all there is to the feminist movement, and that there aren't hundreds of books, courses, journals, websites, blogs, and essays on the subject.
 
Sal
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I enjoyed reading her article, it is well written and thought out but did not miss the irony of it either as TBones has point out nicely
 
gerryh
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I think what Miss Teitel has pointed out quite nicely, is how some women will use anything to reinforce their own paranoia.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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"The argument behind the hashtag runs this way: Rodger was a misogynist and a consumer of hyper-masculine culture. Therefore, masculinity in all its gradations is to blame for his crimes. “If angry, sometimes violent, men are actively defining the entire gender,” Denise Balkissoon writes in the Globe and Mail, “every guy looking away is letting them get away with it. By virtue of existence, you’re in on it.”

Gee, sounds an awful lot like "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
So much more true when an eighteenth-century man says it.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

"The argument behind the hashtag runs this way: Rodger was a misogynist and a consumer of hyper-masculine culture. Therefore, masculinity in all its gradations is to blame for his crimes. “If angry, sometimes violent, men are actively defining the entire gender,” Denise Balkissoon writes in the Globe and Mail, “every guy looking away is letting them get away with it. By virtue of existence, you’re in on it.”

Gee, sounds an awful lot like "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
So much more true when an eighteenth-century man says it.

Sounds like, but isn't. One is meant to inspire people to raise the better part of themselves for the betterment of all, the other is meant to vilify. Perhaps if the first sentiment is intended it should be worded in a way to achieve that. Words matter, so does tone.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Sounds like, but isn't. One is meant to inspire people to raise the better part of themselves for the betterment of all, the other is meant to vilify. Perhaps if the first sentiment is intended it should be worded in a way to achieve that. Words matter, so does tone.

You do realise, one hopes, that the first sentiment was not that spoken by #YesAllWomen or any person participating in #YesAllWomen. It was made up and ascribed to #YesAllWomen by a journalist with an obvious bias.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

You do realise, one hopes, that the first sentiment was not that spoken by #YesAllWomen or any person participating in #YesAllWomen. It was made up and ascribed to #YesAllWomen by a journalist with an obvious bias.

Does it matter? You're the one that said the statements were an "awful lot alike". They aren't. Whether it was uttered sarcastically or sincerely when it was first stated doesn't change that.
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Does it matter?

No it doesn't.
 
Locutus
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The puss was a broken loser, an insecure beta-male dweeb sans proper mentoring, a stain, a certified douchebag. I'm glad he's dead.

He had very little to do with most men.

This is feelgood, dogooder, busybody social media hashtaggery. Big hairy deal.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

The puss was a broken loser, an insecure beta-male dweeb sans proper mentoring, a stain, a certified douchebag. I'm glad he's dead.

He had very little to do with most men.

This is feelgood, dogooder, busybody social media hashtaggery. Big hairy deal.

People act like Twitter actually means something and not just a big collective waste of everybody's time and effort.
 
Locutus
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they should smoke a bit hash or go outside and play a little tag.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

they should smoke a bit hash or go outside and play a little tag.

Man, that takes me back.
 

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