The slow death of free speech

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This weeks cover story by the brilliant @MarkSteynOnline

These days, pretty much every story is really the same story:

  • In Galway, at the National University of Ireland, a speaker who attempts to argue against the BDS (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) programme against Israel is shouted down with cries of ‘fukking Zionist, fukking pricks… Get the fukk off our campus.’



  • In California, Mozilla’s chief executive is forced to resign because he once made a political donation in support of the pre-revisionist definition of marriage.



  • At Westminster, the House of Commons Science and Technology Committee declares that the BBC should seek ‘special clearance’ before it interviews climate sceptics, such as fringe wacko extremists like former Chancellor Nigel Lawson.



  • In Massachusetts, Brandeis University withdraws its offer of an honorary degree to a black feminist atheist human rights campaigner from Somalia.



  • In London, a multitude of liberal journalists and artists responsible for everything from Monty Python to Downton Abbey sign an open letter in favour of the first state restraints on the British press in three and a quarter centuries.



  • And in Canberra the government is planning to repeal Section 18C — whoa, don’t worry, not all of it, just three or four adjectives; or maybe only two, or whatever it’s down to by now, after what Gay Alcorn in the Age described as the ongoing debate about ‘where to strike the balance between free speech in a democracy and protection against racial abuse in a multicultural society’.


and so on and so on and so on...


The slow death of free speech » The Spectator
 

Praxius

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Free speech doesn't equate to free of consequence.

You have the freedom to say and express what you want and everybody else has the freedom to not have dealings or ties to you based on what you say or express.

In regards to the situation of the Australian government and free speech, they're removing sections to allow for more freedom of speech which can increase the chances of hate speech without consequence. I'm not sure how that adds to the destruction of free speech.

Australia debates repeal of parts of racial discrimination act - Index on Censorship | Index on Censorship

He was referring to the Abbott government’s repealing of section 18c of the Racial Discrimination Act which makes it unlawful to “offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate” people based upon their race....

"People do have a right to be bigots you know,”
 

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Free speech doesn't equate to free of consequence.

You have the freedom to say and express what you want and everybody else has the freedom to not have dealings or ties to you based on what you say or express.

In regards to the situation of the Australian government and free speech, they're removing sections to allow for more freedom of speech which can increase the chances of hate speech without consequence. I'm not sure how that adds to the destruction of free speech.

Australia debates repeal of parts of racial discrimination act - Index on Censorship | Index on Censorship
And society as it heads down that path can ensure there are severe consequences for stepping outside of the PC mind set.
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Free speech doesn't equate to free of consequence.

You have the freedom to say and express what you want and everybody else has the freedom to not have dealings or ties to you based on what you say or express.

In regards to the situation of the Australian government and free speech, they're removing sections to allow for more freedom of speech which can increase the chances of hate speech without consequence. I'm not sure how that adds to the destruction of free speech.

Australia debates repeal of parts of racial discrimination act - Index on Censorship | Index on Censorship

People do have the right to be bigots, you know.

We don't need the thought police.
 

Cliffy

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We don't need the thought police.
The thought police own all the media that spoon feed you your opinions every day. People like right wing mouth pieces, like Ezra and Steyn. And the left have their mouth pieces. All, both left and right, owned by the same people who own all the media. Most people are so brainwashed they don't even know it.
 

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5. (1) Every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to employment without discrimination because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, age, record of offences, marital status, family status or disability. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19, s. 5 (1); 1999, c. 6, s. 28 (5); 2001, c. 32, s. 27 (1); 2005, c. 5, s. 32 (5); 2012, c. 7, s. 4 (1).

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Cliffy

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The thought police own all the media that spoon feed you your opinions every day. People like right wing mouth pieces, like Ezra and Steyn. And the left have their mouth pieces. All, both left and right, owned by the same people who own all the media. Most people are so brainwashed they don't even know it.

Oh goody! A red from our house ultra right wing nut who thinks he can think for himself.
 

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The thought police own all the media that spoon feed you your opinions every day. People like right wing mouth pieces, like Ezra and Steyn. And the left have their mouth pieces. All, both left and right, owned by the same people who own all the media. Most people are so brainwashed they don't even know it.
And yet somehow, no doubt by dint of natural amazingosity and steely-eyed determination, you have escaped this brainwashing.

Wow. You should charge folks to touch the hem of your garment.
 

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And yet somehow, no doubt by dint of natural amazingosity and steely-eyed determination, you have escaped this brainwashing.

Wow. You should charge folks to touch the hem of your garment.
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If hate can't be spoken openly it will go underground. That's too bad because hate is like an infection that can only be cleansed by exposure to air and light. Such exposure can only occur if hate can be spoken freely and forced to face opposing ideas in an open clash.
 

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Just commenting on the link title, and the OP, but those that object also have the right to voice those objections. It appears to me that this "free speech" only extends one way. People should be allowed to spout any kind of bullshyte they wish but those not liking what's being said are supposed to keep their mouths shut.

Free speech goes both ways.........everything should be heard.
 

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and yet, because people vocally object to the racists and other pin heads, people are saying that free speech is dieing.

I think you miss the point.....when you prevent the other from being heard, you are not engaged in free speech, you are engaged in the suppression of free speech.

I never said one way or the other when I linked the Australian situation.

My only comment on the subject was that freedom of speech does not automatically equate to freedom of consequence.

Ahhh...that is what "free" means.......without cost.