What Purpose Does It Serve?


SLM
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Newtown 911 recordings released

DANBURY, Conn. - Audio recordings from the Connecticut school shooting that killed 20 children and six educators a year ago reveal a mixture of calm and anguish from the callers, and gunshots from the assailant are heard in the background.
Officials in Newtown, Connecticut, on Wednesday released the 911 phone calls from the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in what may be the final official report on the tragedy that rocked the United States.
Gunman Adam Lanza, 20, shot dead his mother at home on Dec 14, 2012, then went to the school, where he massacred 26 people before killing himself.
“They’re shooting at the front door, something’s going on ... The front glass is all shot out, it kept going on. It’s still happening,” a man calling himself Richard, sounding agitated and confused, told a 911 emergency operator in one of the seven phone recordings.
The operator calmly told him to take cover.
Town officials initially tried to prevent release of the recordings. The state Freedom of Information Commission ordered seven calls placed from inside the elementary school to be aired.
Late last month, a judge ruled the town must comply with the commission’s order, and Newtown officials have since dropped their appeal. First Selectman Pat Llodra recently reversed her long-standing position, saying the tapes should be released in full in order to prevent partial leaks.
One of the first callers, a deeply-anguished woman, grows increasingly distraught over the course of the 24-second call. In the final seconds, she grows more insistent, pleading with the 911 operator for help.
“They’re still running, they’re still shooting,” she said, a volley of several gunshots audible in the background. “Sandy Hook school, please!”
On another call, a woman who described herself as a teacher said she was shot in the foot. The 911 operator instructed her to apply pressure on the wound.
“There’s children in this room,” the teacher said, sighing heavily.
“Are you OK right now?” the 911 operator asks?
“For now, hopefully,” the teacher said, sounding worried.
On Tuesday, Newtown School Superintendent John Reed emailed parents to alert them to the recordings’ release and remind them they could serve as an “emotional trigger.”
Last week, State’s Attorney Stephen Sedensky released a report on the Newtown massacre that concluded Lanza had acted alone, and that his motivation for the attack “may never be answered.”
The town has intended for the 911 recordings to be the final release of evidence from the case. Other phone calls and crime scene photographs exist but have been sealed by state officials
Otherwise, once the Dec. 14 anniversary has passed, the town may finally get a reprieve from the exhaustive media coverage of the past year.
“Vulture media, you got your tapes,” read a hand-painted sign on a telephone pole in Newtown on Wednesday. “Please leave.”


Sandy Hook Shooting: 911 Calls From Newtown Massacre (ALL CALLS) - YouTube


Newtown 911 recordings released


I haven't listened...I really don't want to hear it. I know what happened, I don't need to know sordid details.



What purpose is there to making them release the recordings? Does it satisfy some grim thrill? I really don't get it. It's not 'news', there's nothing in there that I can conceive of that would benefit the public to know, at least nothing that needs to be heard directly. It's just sensational. Some media outlets looking to make a few more bucks out of this tragedy?
 
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karrie
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emotional voyeurism. It's something society would be well served to condition out of our news media.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

emotional voyeurism. It's something society would be well served to condition out of our news media.

Thank you. That's the phrase I was looking for....I was just too aghast at the news of what was happening to think clearly enough.
 
Goober
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On occasion 911 operators have screwed the pooch. Then the reason exists- Outside of those few there is no need to release these tapes.
And I agree with Karrie's point.
 
WLDB
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Helps shut the conspiracy nuts up. Its so strange that some believe it was faked. Of course the fact that it took a year for tapes like this to surface will probably just fuel their paranoia.

Other than that it simply puts what happened out in the open. We can say we know what happened by reading transcripts. Listening and watching is quite different. I havent listened either and dont know if I ever will. Now people have the choice of finding out more or less exactly what happened in detail.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

Helps shut the conspiracy nuts up. Its so strange that some believe it was faked. Of course the fact that it took a year for tapes like this to surface will probably just fuel their paranoia.

Other than that it simply puts what happened out in the open. We can say we know what happened by reading transcripts. Listening and watching is quite different. I havent listened either and dont know if I ever will. Now people have the choice of finding out more or less exactly what happened in detail.


You know what? I say screw their paranoia...they can suffer...there is no need to listen to people dying or desperately pleading for help when they are in fear for their lives. Idiots and their conspiracy theories can get stuffed.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

You know what? I say screw their paranoia...they can suffer...there is no need to listen to people dying or desperately pleading for help when they are in fear for their lives. Idiots and their conspiracy theories can get stuffed.

Unfortunately that does nothing to stop them from spreading their ideas. There are a surprising number of them and they are growing. That can have some serious negative effects long term.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

Unfortunately that does nothing to stop them from spreading their ideas. There are a surprising number of them and they are growing. That can have some serious negative effects long term.

Somebody needs to slap the stupid out of them.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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#9
.Teddy Bear grief. Everyone wants to be a part of the story. This abhorrent event should not be replayed for any reason. Michael Moore is an A-hole for endorsing such voyeuristic behavior.
 
damngrumpy
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There is no real justification for releasing the tapes of this tragedy its time to say no
and mean it.
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Somebody needs to slap the stupid out of them.

They'd be dead by the end of that.

Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

There is no real justification for releasing the tapes of this tragedy its time to say no
and mean it.

Now that its out its out. There is no containing anything once it gets online.
 
spaminator
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he looks perfectly normal.
 
shadowshiv
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In a way, it's like the video that's out there that shows the Paul Walker accident. I don't have any desire to watch it, as I know that two people are dead (dying?) while the car is on fire. It's a horrible enough death that I don't need to watch it "live".
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

They'd be dead by the end of that.

And that would be a problem because?????

Kidding. Sort of.


Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

In a way, it's like the video that's out there that shows the Paul Walker accident. I don't have any desire to watch it, as I know that two people are dead (dying?) while the car is on fire. It's a horrible enough death that I don't need to watch it "live".

There's no "need" other than a perverse thrill.
 
petros
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It sells ad time.Nothing more, nothing less.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

It sells ad time.Nothing more, nothing less.

Because sick, sick puppies tune into it.
 
petros
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I tune TV news out. I prefer my brain to be firm and robust rather than mushy goo.
 
SLM
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I never watch tv news at all. Too sensationalistic for my taste, at least in print you can be more discerning in what you read.
 
petros
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Even The Metro is better than TV news.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Even The Metro is better than TV news.

Does that qualify as news? Lol. I thought that was a flyer. The Penny Saver is bigger than Metro! (Do they even have The Penny Saver anymore?)
 
WLDB
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Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

In a way, it's like the video that's out there that shows the Paul Walker accident. I don't have any desire to watch it, as I know that two people are dead (dying?) while the car is on fire. It's a horrible enough death that I don't need to watch it "live".

I watched one of them because of the screen cap. Looked like a fireball from a movie. The video did indeed look a lot like that. More irony considering the victim. How many similar explosions had he pretended to escape from or been near only to die in the real thing? Unfortunate.

I had a discussion about this with a friend of mine. She said that videos of things like that scare her the most. Car wrecks, things like that where you dont see the people inside. Its the opposite for me. I watched 9/11 on tv when I was 13. It wasnt til a year later when it was actually said "when you see that plane go into that building you are watching hundreds of people die in an instant." In the back of my mind I already knew that but it wasnt til then that it really sank in. That line goes through my head every time Ive seen those images since then and when I see things like this crash. Without that thought its just another fireball like in the movies.

Listening to a tape of guns going off and people screaming and dying - no need for that line to go through anyones head. You know whats going on on an individual level. Things like that or the video clips from Columbine those are far more difficult for me because they show exactly what is going on.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Does that qualify as news? Lol. I thought that was a flyer. The Penny Saver is bigger than Metro! (Do they even have The Penny Saver anymore?)

No idea, we've never had Penny Saver in Regina.. I call the Metro by the Ukrainian first name pronounced Meetro.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

No idea, we've never had Penny Saver in Regina.. I call the Metro by the Ukrainian first name pronounced Meetro.

Then I shall call it that too. Nobody will know what the hell I'm talking about, but I'll be amused.
 
petros
#24
The Metro is good for soaking up oil from making deep fried fish and chips.
 
SLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The Metro is good for soaking up oil from making deep fried fish and chips.

Well by "print" I did mean online. That way if I think an article is slanted or skewed, I can quickly Google for other sources and see what they're reporting.
 
shadowshiv
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

I watched one of them because of the screen cap. Looked like a fireball from a movie. The video did indeed look a lot like that. More irony considering the victim. How many similar explosions had he pretended to escape from or been near only to die in the real thing? Unfortunate.

I had a discussion about this with a friend of mine. She said that videos of things like that scare her the most. Car wrecks, things like that where you dont see the people inside. Its the opposite for me. I watched 9/11 on tv when I was 13. It wasnt til a year later when it was actually said "when you see that plane go into that building you are watching hundreds of people die in an instant." In the back of my mind I already knew that but it wasnt til then that it really sank in. That line goes through my head every time Ive seen those images since then and when I see things like this crash. Without that thought its just another fireball like in the movies.

Listening to a tape of guns going off and people screaming and dying - no need for that line to go through anyones head. You know whats going on on an individual level. Things like that or the video clips from Columbine those are far more difficult for me because they show exactly what is going on.

I remember narrowly avoiding a massive accident on Highway 401 by a couple of minutes (between Windsor and Chatham), which had been caused by heavy fog. I remember someone telling me that someone they knew(their relative or friend, I can't recall which) was one of the people that had tried to get a young girl (17 years old) out of a car that had caught fire. She was pinned in, and they couldn't get to her. The rescuer could only stand by helplessly as she screamed out ( I believe she had said "I'm only 17 years old", but I'm not certain of that) and perished in the fire. If I had left work two minutes later, that could have been me. If someone had taped that, I would never want to watch any of the accident (or it's aftermath). I only need think of that poor girl (and the other victims) to know why.
 
petros
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Online news has ****ty crossword puzzles and no Andy Capp.
 
shadowshiv
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Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Does that qualify as news? Lol. I thought that was a flyer. The Penny Saver is bigger than Metro! (Do they even have The Penny Saver anymore?)

The Penny Saver is still handed out in Chatham.
 
SLM
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Online news has ****ty crossword puzzles and no Andy Capp.


Yeah but there's apps for that.

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshivView Post

The Penny Saver is still handed out in Chatham.

I would have thought kijiji would've killed the Penny Saver.
 
petros
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Yeah but there's apps for that. .

I have the weather network app and that's it.
 

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