$18B - $20B In Lost Revenue Annually

petros

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From where? Fighter jets? Ballet shoes for Quebec? Indian Reserves? Interest on debt?

None of the above.

An estimated $20B is lost simply by having to discount our oil because of bottlenecks in distribution.

What is the fix? Is it easy to fix? Yes!

All it takes is two pipelines.


A glut of oil from multiple continental sources, including the Alberta oilsands, and inability to move it to market due to pipeline bottlenecks is resulting in large discounts for western Canadian crude compared to North American benchmark West Texas Intermediate and international Brent prices.

The price spread, for example, is costing Alberta $8.5 million a day in royalties — or more than $3 billion a year — and the entire Canadian economy nearly $20 billion annually, according to various estimates.

“It’s a real concern. It’s a growing concern,” Oliver said of the price spread, during a 2013 look-ahead interview with Postmedia News.

Oliver said he believes the Obama administration will soon approve the rerouted Keystone XL project. The pipeline would transport oilsands crude from northern Alberta to refineries on the Gulf Coast of Texas, as well as help alleviate a backlog of oil in the U.S. Midwest. The difficulty in moving North American crude to tidewater is causing it to trade at discounted prices compared to imports.

He also stressed the importance of a west-east pipeline system in Canada and for additional export capacity off the West Coast to move Canadian petroleum to Asian markets (the Northern Gateway oilsands pipeline is undergoing a regulatory review).

“The critical issue is to diversify the markets. If there was a game changer in 2012, it was a realization that diversification is utterly crucial,” Oliver added.

“We absolutely must be able to transport the resources to tidewater, and to do that, we need the infrastructure built — build the pipelines — and we’ve got to move not only west, but we’ve got to look at the east as well and hopefully the south also.”

Currently, a barrel of Western Canadian Select, which includes Canadian heavy conventional oil and bitumen crude, is worth slightly more than $60 — a discount of around $30 per barrel compared to the North American benchmark West Texas Intermediate (which is selling for about $92 US per barrel).

The gap is around $50 a barrel compared to the international Brent prices of approximately $112 US per barrel.

The price discount is costing provincial governments and petroleum producers billions of dollars annually, with some of the big banks pegging estimated losses to the Canadian economy at $18 billion or more a year.

The situation comes as a recent report from the International Energy Agency said the United States — Canada’s main energy customer — will become the world’s top oil producer by the end of the decade and eventually be energy self-sufficient over the next few decades.

At the same time, Oliver notes 99 per cent of Canada’s oil exports and all of its natural gas exports are going to the U.S., a trend that must change if Canada is to truly capitalize on its abundant natural resources and capture world prices.


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So if canadians got $30 off a barrel at the pumps a litre would be ? Well let's see Canada is getting $60 a bbl vs $92 world price = 35%

If a litre in your area is a $1.15 - 35% = 40 = puts us at 75 cents a litre.

So why are canadian consumers paying world prices?
 

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Note-OP is the same wanker who predicted $0.80/liter gasoline-which never happened.

Although it must be said that taste differs-some people actually like the Kool Aid made from petroleum.
 

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So if canadians got $30 off a barrel at the pumps a litre would be ? Well let's see Canada is getting $60 a bbl vs $92 world price = 35%

If a litre in your area is a $1.15 - 35% = 40 = puts us at 75 cents a litre.

So why are canadian consumers paying world prices?

Ever heard of taxes tay?

You lefties absolutely love 'em, so I'm really surprised that you are unaware of how much gvt adds onto your gas bill
 

petros

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So if canadians got $30 off a barrel at the pumps a litre would be ? Well let's see Canada is getting $60 a bbl vs $92 world price = 35%

If a litre in your area is a $1.15 - 35% = 40 = puts us at 75 cents a litre.

So why are canadian consumers paying world prices?
Fuel is a commodity all it's own with it's own value.

Ever heard of taxes tay?

You lefties absolutely love 'em, so I'm really surprised that you are unaware of how much gvt adds onto your gas bill
I buy purple I know how much is taxes.
 

Ron in Regina

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So if canadians got $30 off a barrel at the pumps a litre would be ? Well let's see Canada is getting $60 a bbl vs $92 world price = 35%

If a litre in your area is a $1.15 - 35% = 40 = puts us at 75 cents a litre.

So why are canadian consumers paying world prices?

Could it have to do with NAFTA & the clause where Canada signed that it would
not sell oil domestically for less than what it would sell it to the US of A?

Fuel is a commodity all it's own with it's own value.


I buy purple I know how much is taxes.

I did the IFTA reports for a trucking company for 1/2 a decade, so I hear you.

Can you see this bottle neck being the excuse/justification for a major price
jump this summer at the pumps, to push through these pipelines?
 
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Ever heard of taxes tay?

You lefties absolutely love 'em, so I'm really surprised that you are unaware of how much gvt adds onto your gas bill

The way I read his somewhat shaky math the taxes are in in both cases.
But he does have a point. Nafta only says we can't export for less than domestic price. I don't recall it saying the domestic price can't be lower than export. SO it seems to me we should export the higher grades of crude and use the lower priced ones domestically and have a lower priced domestic fuel.

If one could convince the idle rich that don't want pipelines to the coast that their entitlements depend on it perhaps there would be less opposition to them.