7 Things You Can’t Say in Canada

B00Mer

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Every culture has its unacknowledged taboos—the things you are forbidden to say or do in polite company, the accepted truths you are not allowed to doubt. You might think that a liberal, open-minded country like Canada would be free of such taboos, but you’d be wrong. In spite of our belief in our own enlightened tolerance, some things are simply not open to debate. If you try, you’re bound to shock the neighbors.

It’s risky to question the wisdom of the tribe. You might get stoned. On the other hand, some people might sneak up to you afterwards and confess that they secretly agree.

So here’s a challenge to a few of our nation’s most widely held beliefs. You say these things in public at your own peril. I will be elaborating on these points over the months to come. Feel free to stone me or secretly agree—or, even better, add to the list. At the very least, they’re sure to start a good dinner-party fight.

1. Margaret Atwood Writes Some Awful Books

The queen of CanLit bestrides the literary world like a colossus. Nobody has won more awards than she has, and nobody is more feared. There is no such thing as a bad review of a Margaret Atwood book in Canada. That’s too bad, because many of her books are tedious and unreadable, full of tortuous plots and unpleasant characters. Why will no one say so? Because we’re grateful that she’s put us on the global map. And because if they do, they’ll never work in this country again.

2. Recycling is a Waste of Time and Money

Once upon a time it was easy to put out the trash. Today, the Garbage Gestapo rule our lives. Every household has become a mini version of the village dump, and every one of us has become a garbage picker, carefully separating our organics from our bottles and papers, and worrying about where our dryer lint is supposed to go.

Don’t try to sneak a wine bottle into the wrong bag! The trash police will punish you. The truth about recycling is that it’s a giant waste of dollars and doesn’t help the environment. But don’t tell your kids. They won’t believe you. They’ve been brainwashed.

3. Only Private Enterprise Can Save Health Care

Tommy Douglas, the CBC’s Greatest Canadian, brought us universal health care. But even his plan didn’t originally pay for everybody’s ingrown toenails. His primary goal was to make sure nobody faced financial ruin if they got sick.

Today we have a system where controlling costs is more important than treating patients, and where ideology is crippling us. In some places, including Toronto, people go blind waiting for cataract surgery. The government could restore their sight tomorrow simply by sending them to a private clinic instead of to a hospital. The cost to the government would be exactly the same. But in Canada, private is a dirty word, and so the government would rather you go blind. Poor Tommy would be spinning in his grave.

4. David Suzuki is Bad for the Environment

From global warming to farmed salmon and genetically modified crops, David Suzuki has just one message: The End is Nigh.

He is our homegrown prophet of doom who preaches the essential wickedness of the human race. Like a modern Savonarola, he warns that unless we cast our material possessions into the bonfire, we’re all going to hell.

The trouble with this apocalyptic vision is that people are starting to tune out. And our hugely expensive investment in the unworkable Kyoto treaty, which Mr. Suzuki tells us doesn’t go nearly far enough, will crowd out more practical measures to cut smog and clean up our waste sites.

5. A National Daycare Program Won't Do a Thing To Help Poor Kids

Cheap national daycare! Who could be against it? It’s supposed to give kids a better start in life, and nobody can object to that. But in Quebec, where the program started, universal daycare has turned out to be nothing more than a giant (and extremely costly) subsidy for relatively well-heeled middle-class parents. Few poor parents use the system.

No doubt convenient daycare is a godsend for many. But so far there is no definitive evidence that kids who go to daycare go on to do better in school or in life. So if we want to invest billions in helping kids, why are we spending it on the kids who need help the least?

6. Group of Seven are Overexposed Genre Painters

I like A.Y. Jackson as much as you do. His paintings remind me of when I went to summer camp. I grew up with a reproduction of The West Wind hanging in our living room. (That was by Tom Thomson, who wasn’t really a member of Group of Seven, but never mind.) Group of Seven were the first artists to depict the wild Canadian landscape, and they were bold young rebels in their time.

But that time was 80 years ago. Today their work is the quintessence of bourgeois picture-postcard art—the kind of art it’s safe to take your mother to see. Enough, already. Maybe it’s time we moved on.

7. The United States is the World's Greatest Force for Good

Of all the shocking things you can say around the dinner table, this is the most shocking one. After all, America-bashing is part of our national identity.

At best, we see our neighbour as a well-intentioned but arrogant and blundering bully that throws its weight around too much. At worst, we see our neighbour as one of the most evil nations in the world. And yet, right now, hundreds of millions of people in India and China and other desperately poor parts of the world are being liberated from millennia of suffering and serfdom. Why? Because of the United States, which has spread its idea of economic freedom—and its purchasing power—around the world.

source: 7 Things You Can?t Say in Canada | Reader's Digest
 

earth_as_one

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All Canadians have freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression. Our Charter of Rights and Freedoms says so.

I think you mean these are 7 statements you can't make in Canada without most Canadians thinking you are an idiotic ignoramus.
 

Bar Sinister

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Can't really comment on number 1. I've never read any Atwood books. Most of the topics just don't appeal to me.
As for 2 - Living in Edmonton and noting that the city's waste disposal costs have dropped due to one of the the best recycling plans in the world I would have to agree that recycling works
And for 3 - I've observed that after a steady 15 years of privatization of health care in Alberta that health care costs keep going up. Somehow I don't think that a for-profit service can offer anything cheaper than a public service.
4. Can't say I really disagree with much Suzuki has to say. If nothing else he stirs up those who think that wholesale exploitation and destruction of the environment is the only way to run an economy.
5. Rather than use Quebec's model for daycare I would use that of France or Sweden. Two systems that seem to work just fine.
6. Not really into art so I am not qualified to comment.
7. I believe that the blurb accompanying the comment is giving the US a bit too much credit. Just how much influence does the US have in India or China? Very little I would think. Keep in mind that India's government is based on the British model. Of course, if you think Walmart is a positve force for change then I would have to agree; at least in China's case.
 

JLM

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3. Only Private Enterprise Can Save Health Care

"Tommy Douglas, the CBC’s Greatest Canadian, brought us universal health care. But even his plan didn’t originally pay for everybody’s ingrown toenails. His primary goal was to make sure nobody faced financial ruin if they got sick.

Today we have a system where controlling costs is more important than treating patients, and where ideology is crippling us. In some places, including Toronto, people go blind waiting for cataract surgery. The government could restore their sight tomorrow simply by sending them to a private clinic instead of to a hospital. The cost to the government would be exactly the same. But in Canada, private is a dirty word, and so the government would rather you go blind. Poor Tommy would be spinning in his grave."

There is a bit of truth in that all right! The destitute should have their health costs covered. The rest of us should contribute toward the most precious asset we have. The big bills should be covered, but it wouldn't hurt most of to chip in $20 for visits to the doc., E.R. etc.
 

Colpy

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All Canadians have freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression. Our Charter of Rights and Freedoms says so.

I think you mean these are 7 statements you can't make in Canada without most Canadians thinking you are an idiotic ignoramus.

Three out of seven are absolute truths.

Three are reasonable conclusions.

Only one I disagree with.
 

Chev

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"Bar Sinister As for 2 - Living in Edmonton and noting that the city's waste disposal costs have dropped due to one of the the best recycling plans in the world I would have to agree that recycling works"
I also live in Edmonton, and I agree with you. There has been some news articles stating that some other cities around the world that are interested and learning about Edmonton's waste management/recycle practices(?)



Every culture has its unacknowledged taboos—the things you are forbidden to say or do in polite company, the accepted truths you are not allowed to doubt. You might think that a liberal, open-minded country like Canada would be free of such taboos, but you’d be wrong. In spite of our belief in our own enlightened tolerance, some things are simply not open to debate. If you try, you’re bound to shock the neighbors.

It’s risky to question the wisdom of the tribe. You might get stoned. On the other hand, some people might sneak up to you afterwards and confess that they secretly agree.

So here’s a challenge to a few of our nation’s most widely held beliefs. You say these things in public at your own peril. I will be elaborating on these points over the months to come. Feel free to stone me or secretly agree—or, even better, add to the list. At the very least, they’re sure to start a good dinner-party fight.

1. Margaret Atwood Writes Some Awful Books

The queen of CanLit bestrides the literary world like a colossus. Nobody has won more awards than she has, and nobody is more feared. There is no such thing as a bad review of a Margaret Atwood book in Canada. That’s too bad, because many of her books are tedious and unreadable, full of tortuous plots and unpleasant characters. Why will no one say so? Because we’re grateful that she’s put us on the global map. And because if they do, they’ll never work in this country again.

2. Recycling is a Waste of Time and Money

Once upon a time it was easy to put out the trash. Today, the Garbage Gestapo rule our lives. Every household has become a mini version of the village dump, and every one of us has become a garbage picker, carefully separating our organics from our bottles and papers, and worrying about where our dryer lint is supposed to go.

Don’t try to sneak a wine bottle into the wrong bag! The trash police will punish you. The truth about recycling is that it’s a giant waste of dollars and doesn’t help the environment. But don’t tell your kids. They won’t believe you. They’ve been brainwashed.

3. Only Private Enterprise Can Save Health Care

Tommy Douglas, the CBC’s Greatest Canadian, brought us universal health care. But even his plan didn’t originally pay for everybody’s ingrown toenails. His primary goal was to make sure nobody faced financial ruin if they got sick.

Today we have a system where controlling costs is more important than treating patients, and where ideology is crippling us. In some places, including Toronto, people go blind waiting for cataract surgery. The government could restore their sight tomorrow simply by sending them to a private clinic instead of to a hospital. The cost to the government would be exactly the same. But in Canada, private is a dirty word, and so the government would rather you go blind. Poor Tommy would be spinning in his grave.

4. David Suzuki is Bad for the Environment

From global warming to farmed salmon and genetically modified crops, David Suzuki has just one message: The End is Nigh.

He is our homegrown prophet of doom who preaches the essential wickedness of the human race. Like a modern Savonarola, he warns that unless we cast our material possessions into the bonfire, we’re all going to hell.

The trouble with this apocalyptic vision is that people are starting to tune out. And our hugely expensive investment in the unworkable Kyoto treaty, which Mr. Suzuki tells us doesn’t go nearly far enough, will crowd out more practical measures to cut smog and clean up our waste sites.

5. A National Daycare Program Won't Do a Thing To Help Poor Kids

Cheap national daycare! Who could be against it? It’s supposed to give kids a better start in life, and nobody can object to that. But in Quebec, where the program started, universal daycare has turned out to be nothing more than a giant (and extremely costly) subsidy for relatively well-heeled middle-class parents. Few poor parents use the system.

No doubt convenient daycare is a godsend for many. But so far there is no definitive evidence that kids who go to daycare go on to do better in school or in life. So if we want to invest billions in helping kids, why are we spending it on the kids who need help the least?

6. Group of Seven are Overexposed Genre Painters

I like A.Y. Jackson as much as you do. His paintings remind me of when I went to summer camp. I grew up with a reproduction of The West Wind hanging in our living room. (That was by Tom Thomson, who wasn’t really a member of Group of Seven, but never mind.) Group of Seven were the first artists to depict the wild Canadian landscape, and they were bold young rebels in their time.

But that time was 80 years ago. Today their work is the quintessence of bourgeois picture-postcard art—the kind of art it’s safe to take your mother to see. Enough, already. Maybe it’s time we moved on.

7. The United States is the World's Greatest Force for Good

Of all the shocking things you can say around the dinner table, this is the most shocking one. After all, America-bashing is part of our national identity.

At best, we see our neighbour as a well-intentioned but arrogant and blundering bully that throws its weight around too much. At worst, we see our neighbour as one of the most evil nations in the world. And yet, right now, hundreds of millions of people in India and China and other desperately poor parts of the world are being liberated from millennia of suffering and serfdom. Why? Because of the United States, which has spread its idea of economic freedom—and its purchasing power—around the world.

source: 7 Things You Can?t Say in Canada | Reader's Digest
"B00Mer 3. Only Private Enterprise Can Save Health Care”
I admit I don’t know if you pay anything into health care in B.C. But in Alberta, (at least) anyone who got a paycheque used to pay an Alberta Health Care premium. When Stelmach was premier, he put a stop to the payments. The ‘destitute’ do seem to have all their health care needs met by the government, including eyes, dental, ‘Complete Nutritional Drinks’ (such as ‘Ensure’) etc…. So I have A.H.C. and also pay over $150.00 a month for Alberta Blue Cross. All I get from Blue Cross… ‘half’ an ambulance ride and 80% of a few prescriptions, but not all prescriptions.. My son, who is a student, gets better health coverage through his university students association.
 
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55Mercury

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Three out of seven are absolute truths.

Three are reasonable conclusions.

Only one I disagree with.

I love games!

Three out of seven are absolute truths. 1, 3, and 7?

Three are reasonable conclusions. 4, 5, and 6?

Only one I disagree with. 2?

:?)
 

tay

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Readers Digest you say. Who knew they were still around....?


Atwood; Never read one of her books so no comment

Recycling; Well I guess the privatly owned Beer Industry has had it all wrong for 50 plus years. I also remember tying newspapers together when I was old enough to do so 50 years ago.

Health Care; Something is wrong with 'where the moneies are going' but an American solution is stunningly not an option.

Suzuki; Someone has to keep us in check

Group of 7; Yes we were just discussing their works the other day between sets at the 'ballet' club


USA Greatest Force; Well of course they are. They have brought joy to every country they have invaded either militarily or financially..............
 

B00Mer

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All Canadians have freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression. Our Charter of Rights and Freedoms says so.

I think you mean these are 7 statements you can't make in Canada without most Canadians thinking you are an idiotic ignoramus.

Dude pull your head out of your ass.. this is a Parody. Read the link.. if you go to point nine, then you have 13+ Things Your Flight Attendant Won’t Tell You, 13 Things a Movie Theatre Employee Won't Tell You, and so on...

Readers Digest.

7 Things You Can?t Say in Canada | Reader's Digest

Life is to short to take everything so serious in life, loosen up a little, you'll live longer.
 

taxslave

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"Bar Sinister As for 2 - Living in Edmonton and noting that the city's waste disposal costs have dropped due to one of the the best recycling plans in the world I would have to agree that recycling works"
I also live in Edmonton, and I agree with you. There has been some news articles stating that some other cities around the world that are interested and learning about Edmonton's waste management/recycle practices(?)


"B00Mer 3. Only Private Enterprise Can Save Health Care”
I admit I don’t know if you pay anything into health care in B.C. But in Alberta, (at least) anyone who got a paycheque used to pay an Alberta Health Care premium. When Stelmach was premier, he put a stop to the payments. The ‘destitute’ do seem to have all their health care needs met by the government, including eyes, dental, ‘Complete Nutritional Drinks’ (such as ‘Ensure’) etc…. So I have A.H.C. and also pay over $150.00 a month for Alberta Blue Cross. All I get from Blue Cross… ‘half’ an ambulance ride and 80% of a few prescriptions, but not all prescriptions.. My son, who is a student, gets better health coverage through his university students association.

We pay over $100/month for our free health care and most services I require are not covered.
 

karrie

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why would I 'obviously' be taking offense at the points?

I just found it a stupid premise... these things get talked about plenty and aren't the sacred cows that the author thinks they are.
 

gerryh

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Just to point out what should be the obvious, if it was a parody/joke, it should have been posted in the joke sub forum.