Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadne
I doubt many women that experience miscarriage refer to it as an abortion. I think there's quite a difference.
Ah but that is the medical term and I am a medical secretary. Miscarriage is not as explicit in the description of what actually happens. It sounds better to those who need a bit of comfort .
Look at it like telling a patient, they have a cut that needs a few stitches, rather than "There is a 20 cm laceration that needs repair". That repair may need subcutaneous sutures as well as cutaneous ones.
Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Where the waters get murky is Human Rights and the Rights of the Person.
Charter Rights apply to the Person but not the human.
The definition of human needs to be squared up.
It's undeniable that we are humans from conception but legally as Persons that doesn't come until post birth.
Really?? What evidence can YOU produce that a piece of tissue is either a person or human, over that of scientists who spend their life working on the problem. Other than religious prejudice, what can you possibly contribute to such a question.?
We are homosapiens who are adept (some at least) in using communication systems. This does not make all of us, apparently, adept at understanding what they spout. Our species like all earthly ones has it's origjns in the long ago past, (which by the way is quite well documented). Research it for yourself. Like it or not we are an animal species. We call ourselves human but it does not change the fact we are animals of a specific species.
Because we developed into what WE think of as unique among earthly species, there is very little that separates us from the others. What makes us unique ls curiosity and the desire to influence our environment. Our desire to manipulate phenomena,which led to advanced tool and science systems. None of which , changes what we are and what we originated from. Imagine strong emphasis on manipulate!! That manipulation is employed by members of our own species against other of the same species!!
There are other species that are also curious, but will we ever know how much we have smothered or curtailed their evolution will we?? Our species has overrun the planet and has destroyed uncountable species. Now people like you want to finish the job by declaring us more worthy than the survival of our planet!! Small mindedness really distresses the hell out of me.
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