Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread


taxslave
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#181
Quote: Originally Posted by wizardView Post

... in another instance, and this has happened twice so far, an rcmp officer has attended my personal residence with the electric company, claiming to be there to read my electricity meter ...

... these cops are absolutely clueless on the law -- and so is the electric company. it's illegal for the electric company to disclose any information about my electricity account to any third parties, including to the cops!

Perhaps you should read the law. For about a year now BC Hydro has been permitted to pass on info about excessive power use.
Considering also that you do not live in the same dimension as the rest of us the meter reader may have asked for protection.
 
SLM
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#182
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Perhaps you should read the law.

I don't know that reading is the problem. Interpretation though is another story.

Quote:

For about a year now BC Hydro has been permitted to pass on info about excessive power use.
Considering also that you do not live in the same dimension as the rest of us the meter reader may have asked for protection.

That would be my guess as well. Actually, you couldn't pay me enough to read that meter.
 
Cannuck
#183
Perhaps another nominee.

Merritt's top Mountie accused of stealing cocaine from police lockup
 
JLM
#184
Sober B.C. senior fined for failing to blow on breathalyzer
 
Cannuck
#185
Look on the bright side. One less senior on the roads so at least we are safer.
 
JLM
#186
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Look on the bright side. One less senior on the roads so at least we are safer.

So what? Who says we are safe as long as you are on the road? She's probably a better driver than you are!
 
Cannuck
#187
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

She's probably a better driver than you are!

She's a senior. That's highly unlikely
 
damngrumpy
#188
Being a cop does have its privileges though, take the arrest made in Merritt BC today.
RCMP in a local command position was suspended for stealing and using coke in the
evidence room. The senior officers at head office got a sniff of this story and now there
is a full investigation. Those conducting the investigation are calling for this officer to
be suspended without pay, and not be allowed access to the local police station.
BC is a hot bed for problems and it continues without a rest it seems. Police women are
coming forward with sexual offences taking place, and the list of complaints is too long
to mention. It is time to clean up the force.
 
JLM
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#189
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Being a cop does have its privileges though, take the arrest made in Merritt BC today.
RCMP in a local command position was suspended for stealing and using coke in the
evidence room. The senior officers at head office got a sniff of this story and now there
is a full investigation. Those conducting the investigation are calling for this officer to
be suspended without pay, and not be allowed access to the local police station.
BC is a hot bed for problems and it continues without a rest it seems. Police women are
coming forward with sexual offences taking place, and the list of complaints is too long
to mention. It is time to clean up the force.

Unfortunately, I think the R.C.M.P. attracts members of society with a "thug" mentality.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

She's a senior. That's highly unlikely

The problem is people with your mentality judge age vs. condition by the chronological age and in real life it just doesn't work that way these days, with so much awareness on how people CAN live healthy and extended lives. Most days I see many people, some in their 30s and 40s who are "old" and some in their 70s and even 80s who are still "young", agile and positive in their thoughts. Speaking for myself my physical age is about 20-25 years less than what my birth certificate says. Another problem you have is jumping to conclusions about people, based on your biased and ignorant approach to life. The biggest mistake one can make is to under estimate a person (unless of course they have an avatar like yours)
 
Cannuck
#190
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The problem is people with your mentality judge age vs. condition by the chronological age and in real life it just doesn't work that way these days, with so much awareness on how people CAN live healthy and extended lives. Most days I see many people, some in their 30s and 40s who are "old" and some in their 70s and even 80s who are still "young", agile and positive in their thoughts. Speaking for myself my physical age is about 20-25 years less than what my birth certificate says. Another problem you have is jumping to conclusions about people, based on your biased and ignorant approach to life. The biggest mistake one can make is to under estimate a person (unless of course they have an avatar like yours)

Of course you would say something like that. You're a senior.
 
JLM
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#191
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Of course you would say something like that. You're a senior.

More to do with wisdom than age!
 
Cannuck
#192
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

More to do with wisdom than age!

No, I doubt that. You constantly show your age on this forum. I've yet to see any wisdom though
 
JLM
#193
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

No, I doubt that. You constantly show your age on this forum. I've yet to see any wisdom though

One of the side effects of not being too bright!
 
Cannuck
#194
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

One of the side effects of not being too bright!

Oh, I wouldn't say that you aren't too bright....just not all that wise.
 
JLM
#195
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Oh, I wouldn't say that you aren't too bright....just not all that wise.

The pot calling the kettle black!
 
DaSleeper
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#196
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The pot calling the kettle black!

Some village out there is missing it's idiot....and there you are dancing with him tsk tsk....
 
JLM
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#197
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Some village out there is missing it's idiot....and there you are dancing with him tsk tsk....

Do you think they REALLY miss him?
 
Cannuck
#198
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

The pot calling the kettle black!

Hardly. You don't see me posting about how wise I am. A wise man doesn't need to do that. I personally believe that those that need to do that (people like you) have self esteem issues. Have you ever considered getting involved in some community projects or charities. It may do wonders for your self worth.
 
JLM
#199
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Hardly. You don't see me posting about how wise I am. A wise man doesn't need to do that. I personally believe that those that need to do that (people like you) have self esteem issues. Have you ever considered getting involved in some community projects or charities. It may do wonders for your self worth.

Been involved in charities for years. Do you need a list?
 
JLM
+1
#200
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Hardly. You don't see me posting about how wise I am. A wise man doesn't need to do that. I personally believe that those that need to do that (people like you) have self esteem issues. Have you ever considered getting involved in some community projects or charities. It may do wonders for your self worth.

Ya never just never learned to read did you? People who feel the need to denigrate demographical groups have self esteem issue.
 
Cannuck
#201
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Ya never just never learned to read did you? People who feel the need to denigrate demographical groups have self esteem issue.

As usual, you are mistaken. I don't denigrate demographic groups. They denigrate themselves by their actions. I merely point out their actions. I'm sure you've heard of The Emperor's New Clothes.
 
CDNBear
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#202
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

As usual, you are mistaken.

As usual, you're wrong.
 
JLM
#203
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

As usual, you are mistaken. I don't denigrate demographic groups. They denigrate themselves by their actions. I merely point out their actions. I'm sure you've heard of The Emperor's New Clothes.

We can play the game your way, suits me.
 
Cannuck
#204
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

We can play the game your way...

The world would probably be a much better place if you did.
 
L Gilbert
#205
Actually the best drivers according to insurance companies are those between 35 and 75 and women are better drivers.
 
grumpydigger
#206
A very long but interesting read about Rcmp arrogance,power and corruption Elite B.C. RCMP spy unit devastated by abuse of power
In June 2008, when RCMP Const. Lorraine Bergerman met her new boss, Staff-Sgt. Travis Pearson, she found his first words strange and troubling.
Pearson — a fast-rising, 38-year-old officer candidate and former professional standards investigator — had just taken over the elite RCMP surveillance unit known as Special O.
In one of the unit’s secret Lower Mainland offices, he approached Bergerman, a key administrator and a 25-year veteran, looked at her seriously and said: “Where are all the young women?”
It would only get more bizarre.
Launched in 1974, Special O gathered evidence on all the biggest British Columbia cases: Robert Pickton; Surrey 6 shooting; Air India terrorists; former premier Glen Clark, who was suspected of corruption; notorious juror Gillian Guess; international drug cartel players. All were targeted by Special O officers — people who don’t look or act like regular cops, many of them lifelong unit members born with natural talents for snooping.
Bergerman was put on her guard with Pearson right away. But she didn’t foresee that “O” would soon degenerate into a surreal parallel world, in which the nation’s purported top police spies would begin spying and plotting against each other.
And although Bergerman and her colleagues quickly noticed that Pearson seemed constantly to be furtively texting and dashing out of the office without warning, they couldn’t know that two young women he ushered onto the unit would allegedly become on-the-job sex partners who later claimed they were compelled into relations with Pearson and sexually assaulted.
One thing they never could have guessed is that after complaining to RCMP brass and citing evidence that should have raised red flags, they would be the ones shunted from the unit while management stood idle. They say Pearson’s leadership was upheld until August 2009, when a bombshell allegation of rape on a subordinate officer, Const. Susan Gastaldo, led to an investigation, a civil lawsuit from the alleged victim and, finally, a sensational sex misconduct hearing.
Apart from wrongfully having sex on the job, however, Pearson has denied all allegations. “I’m sorry for my disgraceful conduct and I will always be sorry,” Pearson sobbed during a 30-minute statement in which he begged forgiveness from the force and his family near the end of the misconduct hearing. “. . . my wife believes I should face the allegations before the board . . . but she will stand by me for the other slander.”
The RCMP disciplinary board found that the sexual relationship with Gastaldo was consensual.
After considerable soul-searching, Bergerman and others came forward to The Province, putting aside fears of RCMP management repercussions, to tell the public their opinion that Pearson wasn’t just having sex on the job, but was ruining careers and an elite unit with his scheming, harassment and abuse of power. “The RCMP is still a great place to work, and I don’t want to appear like I’m on a rant,” Bergerman said. “But what we went through, the channels we were supposed to go through, didn’t work. It can’t keep going on like this. I don’t want this to happen to other units or other people.”
‘Disgraceful conduct’
For the past several months The Province has reported on the disciplinary case of Const. Susan Gastaldo and Staff Sgt. Travis Pearson, who were accused of having sex in a police car during work hours and exchanging intimate messages while Gastaldo worked for Pearson in Special O.
In May 2009, Gastaldo, who was suffering from an anxiety disorder and off on sick leave, was sought out by Pearson and brought into a graduated return to work at Special O under his guidance.
What happened next was either a consensual affair, or exploitation of a mentally vulnerable victim, depending on whose testimony you believe.
In the course of the hearing, Pearson admitted to having sex with Gastaldo in his covert SUV during work hours, but rejected a number of allegations in the testimony of Gastaldo and one other employee. That employee — a former subordinate of Pearson’s in the North Vancouver detachment — has her identity protected and is referred to as D.B.
D.B. testified she and her family felt they were stalked, and the family is still trying to recover from Pearson’s alleged intrusions. Like Gastaldo, D.B. claimed she was assaulted and subjected to veiled threats, and Pearson abused his power to ensnare her. The two women said they feared the consequences of reporting Pearson because of his connections with RCMP brass, and his “wingmen” — protected officers that he seemed to gather around himself.
Gastaldo testified that Pearson seemed to run a “snoop” network of Mounties and said he could produce damaging information on high-level B.C. Mounties. D.B. testified that Pearson said he would make a “shovel call” — what she believed to be a threat of violence from one of the “wingmen” — if anyone hindered their relationship.
During the tribunal, Pearson’s lawyer argued the relationship between D.B. and Pearson was consensual and challenged the accusations of stalking and implied threats. The tribunal hasn’t made a ruling on D.B.’s claims.
‘Little empire’
Former Special O members told The Province that in their opinion, Pearson played head games and used “nefarious” schemes, subtle threats, and abused his power.
“I totally agree with [Gastaldo’s] descriptions of intimidation and implied threats,” Const. Lynne Jarrett, a 26-year Special O veteran, said. “I do believe it, because it happened to me.”
“People say all Susan would have to do is speak up and tell the supervisor, then everything would be fine,” Jarrett added. “You hear all kinds of RCMP brass say, ‘Just speak up.’ Well, we tried two years ago, and look what happened. We were the problem kids. We got shuffled out. That is why we are speaking now.”
Soon after Pearson arrived at Special O, he targeted key positions and “slowly went about” replacing experienced members with hand-picked favourites, according to a number of Special O members.
“He was connecting himself with people that had some sort of character flaw,” Const. Bergerman said. It seemed like “he was building his little empire.”
According to testimony, one experienced operation co-ordinator was moved from the office to the road shift, and an officer who can only be called Cpl. P (because of a publication ban) was installed in his place.
Gastaldo testified that Cpl. P engaged in drunk driving and once arrived at her home in such a vulnerable state that she allowed him to sleep off the booze in a spare room before driving home to his family.
Sgt. J.D. Martin, referred to in testimony as Pearson’s wingman, was brought into the unit in October 2008.
A friend of Pearson’s from their days at the North Vancouver detachment, Martin had left the Coquitlam detachment, where he was facing a harassment complaint.
Martin, when confronted by The Province, confirmed he was facing the complaint when Pearson hired him. He would not answer what the complaint concerned, but said “it was dealt with.”
Sgt. John Johnson, the unit leader before Pearson’s arrival, told The Province that in Special O’s cafeteria on one occasion, Surrey Mayor Dianne Watts appeared on TV and Martin made a crude comment, referring to her sexual desirability.
Const. Jarrett said she spent a significant amount of time with Martin on a training course, and he frequently made crude remarks about women.
In testimony, Martin said he was hired to help change the culture of Special O, and his efforts to get the unit to shape up led to friction.
“I was eager to come over and assist in bringing about some changes in the largest covert unit in the country,” Martin said.
Const. Jarrett said, however, that during interviews with Special O members in the summer of 2009, Pearson’s immediate superior, Insp. Dennis Erickson, claimed to not know who Martin was, or why he was at Special O.
‘Bizarre’
As concerns over Pearson’s staff moves and the “bizarre” atmosphere in Special O mounted, the unit’s civilian financial administrator, Nancy Hirschkorn, decided to take the matter to RCMP management in Ottawa.
She compiled concerns from a number of members and detailed Pearson’s alleged policy infractions and immaturity, plus questionable purchases and staffing moves that allegedly detracted from the integrity and operational ability of the unit.
The administrator’s complaint was deferred from Ottawa back to B.C., according to email records. And in the end, Hirschkorn was chastised by Pearson’s supervisor, Supt. Lorne Schwartz, and told that Pearson was doing exactly what they wanted him to do.
At that point, many Special O members considered the once proud unit a writeoff.
“We were being hung out to dry because there was nowhere to go,” Const. Jarrett said. “The atmosphere was that he could do whatever he wanted and screw over anyone because he was invincible.”
In a list of complaints obtained by The Province, one move that seems particularly troubling is Pearson’s hiring of D.B. — his former subordinate and sex partner in the North Vancouver detachment — into a high security position for which she was neither qualified nor given sufficient clearance, according to Special O members.
D.B. said in testimony that she agreed to join Special O for several reasons. First, it would increase cash-flow for her family, and she felt she couldn’t say no or she would put her family at risk, she testified. According to D.B. the key, though, was that one of her superiors, Staff-Sgt. Glenn Magark, told her if she transferred to Special O, Pearson would come under scrutiny. If Pearson was under the microscope, she said, the relationship could be ended without her instigating the break.
Sgt. Johnson says that in his first meeting with Pearson in the summer of 2008, Pearson mentioned that he wanted to hire D.B.
“I said, ‘You can’t pay her more than $30,000 because she is not qualified, doesn’t have security clearance for the job you want,’” Johnson said. “And he basically hires her contrary to policy at about $70,000. He insisted they get a brand new Mazda SUV for her. It was crazy.”
D.B. testified that she only worked about 11 shifts at Special O in early 2009 before quitting, because contrary to her expectations that she and Pearson would be working in separate locations, he allegedly arranged an on-the-job sexual encounter in his covert SUV.
RCMP statement
New RCMP Commissioner Bob Paulson, who has admitted the RCMP suffers from a “culture of bullying and a legacy of botched investigations,” was not made available for an interview on claims in this story.
Supt. Ray Bernoties of B.C.’s E-Division said the division couldn’t comment on specific questions, such as whether the hiring of Sgt. J.D. Martin while he faced a harassment complaint was authorized.
In a prepared statement, Bernoties said “immediately upon hearing the concerns raised by members in Special ‘O’ in April 2009, an Inspector and S/Sgt began a review … many measures have been implemented in Special ‘O’ since the summer of 2009, including new leadership, clear mandates and ongoing reviews.”
Special O members say a series of interviews with Insp. Dennis Erickson actually did not start until June, when members unsuccessfully tried to trigger a “management review.”
“Spider-man”
Looking back, Const. Jarrett believes her career in Special O basically ended in her first meeting with Pearson in October 2008, when he asked for her opinion about a pilot project aimed at shuttling young recruits into Special O.
Veterans, including Jarrett, were concerned the move was just aimed at plugging vacancies to make the unit look good on paper, while diluting the talent pool of specialized surveillance officers. Jarrett told Pearson her concerns, and she says he took it badly.
“He put his head down on his forearms, with this Spider-Man toy beside him on his desk,” Jarrett says. “It felt like a child preparing for nap time. I thought, ‘This is how my new boss is handling my first real conversation with me.’ I think my fate was sealed, because either you were with him or against him.”
Jarrett and Bergerman say they eventually moved to new units after conflicts with Pearson played out in 2009. But they often call each other and start to cry, talking about how the unit to which they dedicated their careers has fallen.
The two want to stress that Special O can be salvaged, and the RCMP can, too.
“It is unfortunate it had to get to this point, but let’s try and fix this and give people somewhere they can go to talk to people,” Jarrett said. “I still don’t know what the attraction of management to Travis was, and why that took precedence over the complaints.”
Outcome
In late December a board of RCMP adjudicators rejected Gastaldo’s claims that she was raped and coerced into an ongoing affair, allegedly due to her fragile psychological state and Pearson’s implied threats and extreme persistence.
The board ruled Pearson and Gastaldo were in a consensual affair, and both guilty of disgraceful conduct. In a move that stunned some, they said Gastaldo could be fired for slandering Pearson — while Pearson faces only demotion. Pearson, who was removed from leadership at Special O when Gastaldo launched a criminal complaint against him in August 2009, will learn his fate when his hearing resumes in February. Gastaldo is pursuing her civil claim.
scooper@theprovince.com
A LITANY OF COMPLAINTS
This is a look at emails and interviews that suggest senior RCMP brass were presented with complaints regarding Staff-Sgt. Travis Pearson’s leadership of the Special O unit. RCMP members involved say the complaints were stifled.
EMAIL: Feb. 24, 2009, FROM: Nancy Hirschkorn, a civilian financial administrator, Special O unit
TO: Chief Supt. Marianne Ryan, of Pacific Region Change Management Team
Pearson has inappropriately hired a municipal employee and ‘requested her to have a new SUV and other requests inappropriate for [the position].’
Pearson made questionable equipment expenditures and funding requests, including asking for a new, more expensive SUV after already being given a ‘a brand new Nissan XTerra,’ requesting $30,000 for a new gym for Special O, buying sports equipment that never gets used.
Hirschkorn says under Pearson’s leadership the unit “gets more bizarre every day” and “this information can be verified by any member, except his “buddies.’”
EMAIL: March 2, 2009
The chief superintendent asks Hirschkorn if she wants to meet with the officer responsible for Pearson, Supt. Lorne Schwartz. Hirschkorn says no, since “Supt. Schwartz … is already aware of these concerns I have raised.”
She says she wants Ryan to attend, to hear Schwartz’s answers.
EMAIL: March 3, 2009
Schwartz writes a stern reply to Hirschkorn, establishing ground rules for a March 23 meeting. He says he will not be put on display and does not report to Ryan, and: “I am not aware of the concerns you have raised as you indicate … I am open and willing to meet but I will demand the appropriate level of respect.”
MEETING: March 23, 2009
Special O colleagues say Hirschkorn was “demoralized” and “shattered” by March 23 meeting results.
According to former unit head Sgt. John Johnson, members were chilled after Hirschkorn’s complaint was crushed. “She [Hirschkorn] thought she was going over to shed light on things that would be appreciated and investigated. But she was chastised by Lorne and basically told how dare she even question Travis, because he was doing exactly the job Lorne sent him to do ...”
OUTCOME: March 25, 2009
After talking to Hirschkorn, Special O colleague Const. Lorraine Bergerman sent an email to the chief superintendent, stating “no wonder people don’t come forward.” The chief superintendent replied: “I can understand why Nancy is upset, Lorne seems to have a different style of dealing with these matters but it is his area.”

 
Cannuck
#207
It appears these guys may have went a little passed ignorant but what the hell, they deserve a place of honour in this thread.

Massive Toronto police corruption trial begins - Toronto - CBC News
 
mentalfloss
#208
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It appears these guys may have went a little passed ignorant but what the hell, they deserve a place of honour in this thread.

Massive Toronto police corruption trial begins - Toronto - CBC News

Not enough Fantino in that article.
 
Cannuck
#209
'Discreditable' police conduct in G20 arrest: report | CTV News

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TORONTO A man arrested by police at the turbulent G20 summit 18 months ago is calling for criminal charges against the officers in light of a new report that finds they used excessive force against him. The report by the agency that investigates complaints against police concludes Adam Nobody, who was arrested at the provincial legislature in June 2010, made substantiated allegations.
The report calls on Chief Bill Blair to lay Police Act charges against five officers.

 
Cannuck
#210
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xIZigF_zdXw#!


Cop doesnt know the law - YouTube

 
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