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Cannuck
#31

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Yes, your spin. You posted it in support of your position, obviously you agreed with it in full.

LOL...Perhaps you would like to explain how the video (shot from a police cruiser) is spin....and yes, I agree with everything that happened in the video. A fire truck blocked a lane of traffic an an idiot cop got upset. What in the video did you disagree with?
 
CDNBear
#32

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

LOL...Perhaps you would like to explain how the video (shot from a police cruiser) is spin....and yes, I agree with everything that happened in the video. A fire truck blocked a lane of traffic an an idiot cop got upset. What in the video did you disagree with?

I said the video was spin?

Maybe you should learn to read.
 
Cannuck
#33

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I said the video was spin?

Maybe you should learn to read.

I posted a video. If you are referring to the title of the video, I didn't write the title and the title has no relevance to the subject of the video. You clearly grasping at straws. That's probably a result of your frustration at being repeatedly PWNed by me.

Is there anything in the video you disagree with?

Since you seem to be getting your panties twisted over the title on the vid, I'll post another YouTube version of the same video with a different title. Maybe now you can sleep at night...LOL

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvx50mlkDJOg

Last edited by Cannuck; Dec 17th, 2011 at 06:19 PM..
 
CDNBear
#34

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I posted a video. If you are referring to the title of the video, I didn't write the title and the title has no relevance to the subject of the video.

You posted it, you obviously agree with the title.

It's OK, it's not like I expect honesty in your posts.

Quote:

That's probably a result of your frustration at being repeatedly PWNed by me.

Hows the much safer than US highways, multi tiered speed limit Autobahn working for you these days?
 
Cannuck
#35

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You posted it, you obviously agree with the title.

Nope, never looked at the title. Search "cop arrests firefighter" and cut and pasted the first video. Why does it bother you so much?
 
CDNBear
#36

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Nope, never looked at the title.

Ya, I already knew you oft post things you don't understand. Living in a Police State must have you all curfuffled these days.

Quote:

Why does it bother you so much?

It doesn't. It makes me laugh, all you chicken littles do.

How much was the ticket, the big bad scary cop gave you?
Last edited by CDNBear; Dec 17th, 2011 at 06:33 PM..
 
Cannuck
#37

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Ya, I already knew you oft post things you don't understand.

LOL...First it was "my spin", now it's that I "don't understand". Maybe you should make up your mind.
 
CDNBear
#38

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Maybe you should make up your mind.

I'd love to. But confusion is a hazard when dealing with you, someone whose principles have the consistency of warm jello.

You obviously don't understand the stuff you post, as was amply proven, by me I might add, when you made claims about the Autobahn, then challenged your own claims (Which was really funny btw). But then again, you are known for lying.

Carry on though, I'm enjoying your chicken little thread.

Please tell me another story about the Police State.
 
Cannuck
#39

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

when you made claims about the Autobahn, then challenged your own claims (Which was really funny btw). But then again, you are known for lying.



I have no problem going to the DUI thread and explaining to you, how I have have not challenged my own claims that speed does not cause accidents. I'm not surprised you are confused and I can understand your need to drag other stuff into this thread when you start getting PWNed. Please, do carry on.
 
CDNBear
#40

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post


I have no problem going to the DUI thread and explaining to you, how I have have not challenged my own claims that speed does not cause accidents. I'm not surprised you are confused and I can understand your need to drag other stuff into this thread when you start getting PWNed. Please, do carry on.

Like I said, you are known for lying, especially when you start losing it...

You should look up what the moving goal posts fallacy means. Although you do it so often. You really should already know.

But please, head on back to the other thread and try to back peddle out of your own claims, you've had three days to come up with some goal post moving and back peddling crap. I look forward to the comedic value, and I'm sure we'll see you do some real goal post moving too.

Don't let that interupt this hilarious thread though. I like all your stories about the big bad scary Cops.
 
JLM
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#41

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post



I have no problem going to the DUI thread and explaining to you, how I have have not challenged my own claims that speed does not cause accidents. I'm not surprised you are confused and I can understand your need to drag other stuff into this thread when you start getting PWNed. Please, do carry on.

So what you are saying is that if you enter a curve designed for 80 kmh at 130 kmh and go over the side, then speed wasn't the cause of the accident?
 
CDNBear
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#42

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

So what you are saying is that if you enter a curve designed for 80 kmh at 130 kmh and go over the side, then speed wasn't the cause of the accident?

That's when the jackbooted cops come along and drop some Police State chunks of sky on ya.

Well according to cannuck anyways.
 
SLM
#43

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That's when the jackbooted cops come along and drop some Police State chunks of sky on ya.

Those bastards! 80km/130km what's the difference? Big brother is just out to spoil all the fun.
 
CDNBear
#44

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Those bastards! 80km/130km what's the difference? Big brother is just out to spoil all the fun.

How true.

I wonder if cannuck knows how much he has in common with them?
 
SLM
#45

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

How true.

I wonder if cannuck knows how much he has in common with them?

Could try asking, but unlikely to get a straight response.
 
CDNBear
+1
#46

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by SLMView Post

Could try asking, but unlikely to get a straight response.

Unlikely? It's a guarantee. The fragility of his ego prevents honesty in any way. Lest he feel judged.

I pity people like him.
 
damngrumpy
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#47

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Ever have the wrong guy situation? I was once working at my work place when the
cops show up and take me to the station. They inform me that I am going to a town
somewhere in BC that I had never been to. I apparently, had ignored court appearances
on a paternity matter for months and they finally caught up with me. At first I was mad
as hell, partly because I didn't know anything about this and partly because no one was
listening to me. They just kept saying oh ya right you're out of excuses buddy and
you won't wiggle out of this one, etc etc.
It was becoming funny actually, as I imagined what it would be like when I arrived in
court the wrong guy with the same name and no connection to the incident. As luck
would have it a senior officer came by, one that I knew and asked what the hell I was doing
there. I told him to talk to the two clowns in there behind the glass. It wasn't long before
there was a lot of activity and people expressing how sorry they were, and did I need a ride
back to work. Yes there are jerks and there are some serious jerks but there are a lot of
good folks too.
 
JLM
#48

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Ever have the wrong guy situation? I was once working at my work place when the
cops show up and take me to the station. They inform me that I am going to a town
somewhere in BC that I had never been to. I apparently, had ignored court appearances
on a paternity matter for months and they finally caught up with me. At first I was mad
as hell, partly because I didn't know anything about this and partly because no one was
listening to me. They just kept saying oh ya right you're out of excuses buddy and
you won't wiggle out of this one, etc etc.
It was becoming funny actually, as I imagined what it would be like when I arrived in
court the wrong guy with the same name and no connection to the incident. As luck
would have it a senior officer came by, one that I knew and asked what the hell I was doing
there. I told him to talk to the two clowns in there behind the glass. It wasn't long before
there was a lot of activity and people expressing how sorry they were, and did I need a ride
back to work. Yes there are jerks and there are some serious jerks but there are a lot of
good folks too.

The senior office probably got where he was for a good reason!
 
Tonington
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#49

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

So what you are saying is that if you enter a curve designed for 80 kmh at 130 kmh and go over the side, then speed wasn't the cause of the accident?

Depends on the car, the road isn't the only part of the equation that was designed. Some cars are designed to take those corners at high speed without losing control.
 
DaSleeper
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#50

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

That's not why he was arrested.

But don't let reality get in the way of your spin. LOL.

You're right, That's not why he was arrested,
When I had my training for ambulance attendant, one of the things you are taught,,you are in charge of the patient when the police let you, and you park your vehicle where they tell you to park it, since they are in charge of the safe flow of traffic around the scene. They also are responsible for the accident scene.
The fire truck was probably called in case of a fire, but since there was no visible fire, he should have stayed back until needed...
Just as in a case of fire in a vehicle we were instructed to wait until the scene was safe, even if I had fire training in the mill....things are the safest when each performs their specific duty...

A fireman should know that
 
JLM
#51

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Depends on the car, the road isn't the only part of the equation that was designed. Some cars are designed to take those corners at high speed without losing control.

As a person who was closely connected with highway design for 35 years, I can assure you that posted cautionary speeds on curves are decided with the capabilities of the vehicles in mind. If you are 20 kmh over the posted speed and "lose it" on the curve, SPEED is the dominating factor.
 
Tonington
#52

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

As a person who was closely connected with highway design for 35 years, I can assure you that posted cautionary speeds on curves are decided with the capabilities of the vehicles in mind.

The highways are not built for exotic sports cars. The highways aren't built for the exceptions. Like I said, it depends on the vehicle.

As someone who was closely connected with highway design, could you describe the process for determining the advisory speed limits? Is there a model, a formula? Do they have test cars with gimble mounted gyros? A combination of factors?
 
JLM
#53

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

The highways are not built for exotic sports cars. The highways aren't built for the exceptions. Like I said, it depends on the vehicle.

As someone who was closely connected with highway design, could you describe the process for determining the advisory speed limits? Is there a model, a formula? Do they have test cars with gimble mounted gyros? A combination of factors?

If you have a car that is engineered so they don't fly off a curve at 20 kmh over then it becomes a moot point. I was referring to actual accidents!

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

The highways are not built for exotic sports cars. The highways aren't built for the exceptions. Like I said, it depends on the vehicle.

As someone who was closely connected with highway design, could you describe the process for determining the advisory speed limits? Is there a model, a formula? Do they have test cars with gimble mounted gyros? A combination of factors?

I've been away from it for 13 years and of course we just referred to tables that were compiled from formulas where such factors as friction, gravity and centrifugal force comprised the formula. Appromations would be a 240 metre radius curve would handle 80 kmh, a 350 metre radius curve would handle 90 kmh, a 500 metre radius curve would handle 100 kmh. These are all close approximations.
 
Tonington
#54

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 17th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

If you have a car that is engineered so they don't fly off a curve at 20 kmh over then it becomes a moot point. I was referring to actual accidents!

People still have accidents in Ferrari, Maserati, Lotus, Corvettes, and Porsche sports cars. They are definitely designed to exceed the specs your car, or my car can handle.
 
taxslave
#55

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

You're right, That's not why he was arrested,
When I had my training for ambulance attendant, one of the things you are taught,,you are in charge of the patient when the police let you, and you park your vehicle where they tell you to park it, since they are in charge of the safe flow of traffic around the scene. They also are responsible for the accident scene.
The fire truck was probably called in case of a fire, but since there was no visible fire, he should have stayed back until needed...
Just as in a case of fire in a vehicle we were instructed to wait until the scene was safe, even if I had fire training in the mill....things are the safest when each performs their specific duty...

A fireman should know that

Not here. The police do not tell ambulance and FRs what to do or when. That would be incident command which is normally highest rank of first in although if the ambulance beats us to the scene they pass scene control to the officer on the first truck in so they can deal with the patients. Actually the police are usually the last to arrive. No fire fighter and few ambulance attendants would even go near the car until the scene was safe. That means blocking the whole highway if we feel like it. Been to quite a few MVAs both as ambulance driver and firefighter and so far the cops have never argued with us as to safety.
The officer on the truck was arrested because the cop is an idiot.
 
Cannuck
#56

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

You're right, That's not why he was arrested,
When I had my training for ambulance attendant, one of the things you are taught,,you are in charge of the patient when the police let you, and you park your vehicle where they tell you to park it, since they are in charge of the safe flow of traffic around the scene. They also are responsible for the accident scene.
The fire truck was probably called in case of a fire, but since there was no visible fire, he should have stayed back until needed...
Just as in a case of fire in a vehicle we were instructed to wait until the scene was safe, even if I had fire training in the mill....things are the safest when each performs their specific duty...

A fireman should know that

Firefighters are in charge of the scene. The police officer in the video had to pay $18,000 dollars because he (like you) was completely wrong.

Missouri Police Officer Fined $18,000 for Arresting Firefighter on Emergency Call
 
CDNBear
#57

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Firefighters are in charge of the scene. The police officer in the video had to pay $18,000 dollars because he (like you) was completely wrong.

Missouri Police Officer Fined $18,000 for Arresting Firefighter on Emergency Call

So he wasn't arrested for helping an injured person.

You really shouldn't post stuff you should know is a lie.
 
Cannuck
#58

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

So he wasn't arrested for helping an injured person.

One could argue that he was because the truck was being placed to protect (or help) an injured person but I'm not really interested in playing your silly word games. Clearly you have no defense of this idiot officer so you need to make it about me. I'm flattered that I mean so much to you. Please continue.
 
CDNBear
#59

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

One could argue that he was because the truck was being placed to protect (or help) an injured person but I'm not really interested in playing your silly word games.

Ya, you could argue semantics, that, moving goal posts and building straw man arguments, is all you're good at.

Quote:

Clearly you have no defense of this idiot officer so you need to make it about me.

Nothing beyond what was stated in the court case. Which sounds reasonable from what is available on the net. He was convicted on his record, not for malicious intent.

Quote:

I'm flattered that I mean so much to you. Please continue.

Oh you are indeed. I love watching you flail around back peddling, moving goal posts and building straw men, and now starting chicken little threads. When the board is slow, I can always count on you to provide me with copious amounts entertainment.

Hows the rebuttal to your failed argument in the DUI thread coming? I'm looking forward to another entertaining example of your use of fallacy.

Just don't let it interfere with this lovely chicken little thread of yours. I would be greatly disappointed if it went silent.

Please go on, I'm very entertained by your views of the Police State.
 
Cannuck
#60

Re: Stupid, Dumb and Just Plain Ignorant Cop Thread

Dec 18th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

He was convicted on his record, not for malicious intent.

Never said he had malicious intent. I think he's a stupid, dumb and/or just plain ignorant cop and that is why I posted the vid. If you disagree that he is a stupid, dumb and/or just plain ignorant cop, perhaps you would like to explain why.
 

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