Ten Rules for Fat Girls

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Ten Rules for Fat Girls « CrazyBeautiful

1. You are not obligated to be thin, healthy, or pretty.

It’s bad enough that our culture assigns moral value to foods: celery is “good,” donuts are “bad.” Now, being healthy is itself considered a sign of your moral fortitude. Never mind the gap between the wealthy and poor and how that affects access to unprocessed food and the time and resources to exercise; never mind genetics or mental illness or stuff like, you know, character and behavior toward others. Thin people equal healthy people and that means good people.
Here’s a thought I’m sure will shock people: You don’t owe anyone good health. You have sovereignty over your body and that means it is no one’s responsibility but your own.
Now, there are larger issues involved in our food supply such as workers’ rights, animal rights, and environmental devastation to be considered, but I can’t make other people’s food choices for them, and I wouldn’t allow anyone to make mine for me. Evangelizing about any kind of diet or “health plan” is presumptuous and unlikely to make you any friends; showing that the way you live makes you happy is a far more effective long-term persuasive technique.
Let’s assume that being fat is morally reprehensible. Okay, fine. Let’s assume it’s the worst thing ever and every time a fat girl eats cake God kills a kitten. Whatever. How are shame and hatred going to fix that? How is discrimination and making people loathe themselves going to make them healthier? Obviously this doesn’t work or the number of overweight people would be rapidly declining, wouldn’t it, given how we’re treated? Has hate ever made anyone a better person?
Besides, how exactly does looking at someone tell you their state of health? There are millions of unhealthy thin people, but the automatic assumption is that they’re healthier than I am just based on my size.
We also have this idea that our bodies are only worth their value to other people. Guess what? MY VALUE AS WOMAN IS NOT DEPENDENT ON WHETHER OR NOT MEN WANT TO **** ME.
Even in the Pagan community where you’d think body acceptance would be assumed, there’s been a rise in anti-fat prejudice lately with all these really weird “you’re using up too many resources! Mother Earth is sad that you’re fat!” ideas behind them. Of all the environmental issues that are mounting up today, that’s the one you have a conniption over? You really think my big ass is worse for the Earth than Big Oil? You need to sort out your priorities, Dances With Unicorns.
2. Don’t talk **** about your body.

Aside from the fact that it makes conversations awkward, would you let a friend – or anyone – verbally abuse you? Then why allow yourself to do it?
It’s hard to follow this rule given that body disparagement is not only the norm, it’s expected. A group of women is supposed to talk about diets and shoes and how much they freaking love yogurt. I’d rather listen to my relatives talk about Obama than my coworkers talk about calorie counts. In such a situation you can:
A. Change the subject
B. Try to change people’s minds by making body positive statements (only do this if you like to argue)
C. If you’re totally stuck, entertain yourself: mentally replace words like “carbs” with “balls.” It’s way more fun to listen to people discuss good balls versus bad balls and whether or not they’re getting enough balls.
Before making a statement about your body, ask yourself if you’d say the exact same thing to the kindest, gentlest friend you have. If the answer is yes, I’d be surprised if you had any friends at all; you’re certainly no friend to yourself.


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TenPenny

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That's the key, right there:
You don’t owe anyone good health. You have sovereignty over your body and that means it is no one’s responsibility but your own.

And, if you're not interested in your own health, don't expect anyone else to be.
 

JLM

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Actually being thin equated with good health is now being questioned. I believe people who are 10 lbs. overweight have longer life expectancy than those 10 lbs. underweight. Overweight people have something to fall back on should they become seriously ill. People should mind their own business more about others' appearance. No one in this world is required to "suit" anyone. :smile:
 

Dexter Sinister

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You have sovereignty over your body...
Wish I knew what she thinks that means. If sovereignty is taken to mean supreme and unrestricted power, as my dictionary says it does, that's not a true statement. And if you substitute the word control, which is what I think she probably means, it's still not a true statement. If it were, there'd be no unwanted pregnancies, no cancer, no lupus, no ALS, no obesity... And that's just thinking about things that have happened to people I know personally, tip of the iceberg stuff. I certainly agree with the general tone and direction of her argument, but a readily falsifiable extreme claim at the beginning of it damages her credibility for me.
 

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Wish I knew what she thinks that means. If sovereignty is taken to mean supreme and unrestricted power, as my dictionary says it does, that's not a true statement. And if you substitute the word control, which is what I think she probably means, it's still not a true statement. If it were, there'd be no unwanted pregnancies, no cancer, no lupus, no ALS, no obesity... And that's just thinking about things that have happened to people I know personally, tip of the iceberg stuff. I certainly agree with the general tone and direction of her argument, but a readily falsifiable extreme claim at the beginning of it damages her credibility for me.

I took that to mean "over the things that can be controlled or at least influenced". No you can't do anything to guarantee you don't get one or more of these diseases BUT you can greatly reduce the chances. :smile:
 

karrie

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Wish I knew what she thinks that means. If sovereignty is taken to mean supreme and unrestricted power, as my dictionary says it does, that's not a true statement. And if you substitute the word control, which is what I think she probably means, it's still not a true statement. If it were, there'd be no unwanted pregnancies, no cancer, no lupus, no ALS, no obesity... And that's just thinking about things that have happened to people I know personally, tip of the iceberg stuff. I certainly agree with the general tone and direction of her argument, but a readily falsifiable extreme claim at the beginning of it damages her credibility for me.


I think you're being overly analytical about something that clearly is an opinion piece, a bit of personal expression, not a scientific article.

As an added thought along your overly analytical lines.... sovereignty as we use the word in English language is NEVER appropriate according to your definition, otherwise every sovereign nation would be able to control the weather, earth quakes, etc. in order to exact complete and total control over itself.
 

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Perhaps "sovereignty" in this case means what you do with/to your body as opposed to what is done to it.
 

karrie

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Perhaps "sovereignty" in this case means what you do with/to your body as opposed to what is done to it.


I'm pretty sure it quite simply means that you are in control of your body, not someone else, not society, not your boyfriend, not your girlfriends, not fashion. Given the context of the article, I find the dissection of one simple word a bit funny.

Sovereignty | Define Sovereignty at Dictionary.com

sovereignty....
rightful status, independence, or prerogative.
 

Locutus

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A big beautiful redheaded Scottish girl owns my heart and I wouldn't have it any other way.

As for 'rules'...well,... all I know is that I don't make any.

But I sure am thankful there aren't any for immature, middle-aged, anti-liberal 4chan/b/ denizens. Although, I must say...I'm a handsome friggin' brute.
 

shadowshiv

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I'm pretty much attracted to women of all body types. Slender, voluptuous, tall, short. I love 'em all! Unfortunately, I haven't yet found one that feels the same way.:-(