I guess you missed the distinction on that sign...fully funded school, and military has to buy bombs with bake sale funds... Obviously they aren't contending that school's are financed solely by bake sales.
Schools are not fully funded. I have to pay $110 per child, every year, fundraise for playground and sports equipment, and pay out of pocket for field trips, and any 'extras', such as when the schools have in hands on learning modules such as their bridge building classes, boat making classes, etc. The costs climb as children get older, with text book fees, locker fees, and field trip fees all growing as the child does.
Schools ARE fully funded. I never implied or claimed that either schools or the milirary nedd to sustain themselves by bake sales.
That is no different from you paying when you drive on a toll road or ride a ferry.
As it should be. I would be prepared to see more services go 'user pay'. My kids have been out of school for over thirty years, yet my taxes are still being confiscated for supporting schools. And as a parent I experienced what your post says you do now, but, being of an older generation I never complained about it.
So far nobody questioned or challenged my contention that the lack of discipline grossly increases education costs. I am waiting.
I guess jackie boy is right about schools. Especially since the schools seemed to produce narrow minded, ignorant, war mongers like above that just can't seem to wrap their minds around peace instead of killing. Oh yes, and by the way, don't bother with the usual cop outs and excuses as to why war is necessary. It's only necessary because there are far too many like yourselves who obviously prefer the blood shed over peace.
Tonnington, your aversion to the military ('fewer bombs') is not really valid re the Canadian military.
Explain your contention then. It's an exercise in futility to question or challenge something for which the causes and mitigations are not stated.
Fifty students is not easily managed. I doubt the private school you sent your kids to had classroom sizes that large.
I challenge you to get a child into school without paying. They are not fully funded, plain and simple. People have been having this legal battle with the schools for longer than you OR I have had kids in the system. They claim to be fully funded, but you HAVE to pay extra to have your kid in them, end of story.
It's a contention that's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. You're a bigger man than I for bothering to address it.
Minor miscreants got a rap or two on their fingertips with a ruler, and that was usually enough never to see a major miscreant in our ranks. We learned organic chemistry in Grade 8, trigonometry and algebra in grade 7 and world history and geography in grades lower. We paid attention, because we had to, or face the consequences, which, when incurred did NOT leave an indelible scar on our psyches..
karrie, when we are talking about funding, fully or otherwise, there is no escaping of talking about costs. Just my humble opinion, but if the costs for essentials were lower, would there not be extra for the extras?Quote has been trimmed, See full post:
I recall being a class of fifty. When the teacher entered, we had to stand. When the teacher spoke we listened. When any of us had a question, we raised our hands and asked the question when the teacher gave us permission to do so. Minor miscreants got a rap or two on their fingertips with a ruler, and that was usually enough never to see a major miscreant in our ranks. We learned organic chemistry in Grade 8, trigonometry and algebra in grade 7 and world history and geography in grades lower. We paid attention, because we had to, or face the consequences, which, when incurred did NOT leave an indelible scar on our psyches.
We had optional music classes. Optional astronomy or chess clubs. Sport activities were not only part of our education, but were strongly encouraged.
Maybe it was all because it was more than fifty years ago and things were different then, but I believe that if the schools of today had the discipline we had then, there would be enough savings to FULLY fund every extra I mentioned, and more. After all, my childhood was spent in poor, war torn Hungary, not in the affluent rich country of Canada. Perhaps the fact that my teachers were not unionized also helped.
Tonington, when I talk...
gerryh, I gave you the negative rep, because in totally cowardly, liberal-bleeding-heart fashion you called a 'rap' BEATING and then you went on ignoring the rest of my comment you quoted.
See what class size does to people?
Discipline isn't punishment, rapping on finger tips is punishment. Discipline is learning to do things the right way and repeating that routine or ceremony so that the out come is correct. That is one of the strongest qualities of the military of which there are many. Honour and loyalty are a couple you missed.
The only form of "discipline" you mentioned was hitting the child, or is hitting the only form of discipline you know? I know for me, if any teacher was to "rap my child with a ruler" they would find that ruler embedded up their ***.