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darkbeaver
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#1Jan 27th, 2010
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Of each U.S. taxpayer dollar, 40 cents is going to the U.S. military, paying for security, search and rescue teams, and the Navy's hospital ship USNS Comfort.
Another 36 cents funds US AID's disaster assistance - everything from $5,000 generators to $35 hygiene kits with soap, toothbrushes and toothpaste for a family of five.
Just over a dime has already been spent on food: 122 million pounds of pinto beans, black beans, rice, corn soy blend and vegetable oil. When purchased in bulk, the actual food prices are relatively low. Pinto beans, for example, cost the U.S. government 40 cents a pound when purchased in 5 million-pound batches last week.
 
petros
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Re: Hati gets a penny of each U.S. aid dollar

Jan 27th, 2010
How many cases of weiners would you need for 5 million lbs of beans?
 
Kreskin
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Jan 27th, 2010
All of that is aid. What do you call aid? It's more than what they put in pocket to spend at 7-11.
 
MHz
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Jan 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many cases of weiners would you need for 5 million lbs of beans?

Do they still classify weiners as food?
 
darkbeaver
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Re: Hati gets a penny of each U.S. aid dollar

Jan 27th, 2010
Aid to the poor countries helps them to stay poor, it's been like that as long as I can remember. Therefore I respectfully suggest that it cannot be aid, strange as that may be.
 
MHz
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Jan 27th, 2010
Venezuela canceled their fuel bill. Have to wait and see what they owe (and own) when all the reconstruction is done. The World Bank was going to maybe let them not pay on a $40M debt for 5 yrs (interest piling up would double that amount in 5 yrs). If their National debt is under $2B and the Banks have gotten some 1,000B (and more coming) I would think nobody would really miss a piddly $2B. France owes them about $60B for that crooked debt they saddled them with that took 200 years to pay off. It appears a French Banker is more vile that what either is when mentioned singularly.
 
darkbeaver
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Jan 27th, 2010
The World Bank. I don't think it was a good idea in hindsight. Private banking has to be curtailed dramatically and confined to regulated areas, like prisons. All Hatis debt should be forgotten. The people did not get the money the people should not have to pay. Fornicate the bankers. Of course if someone were to donate an aircraft carrier that would help.
 
MHz
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Jan 27th, 2010
Unless it is going to be used as a diving board those things should be banned, that was how trouble started way back when.
The World Bank is the top 5 Bankers in the world isn't it?
 
darkbeaver
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Jan 27th, 2010
They are Death Stars deliverers of misery. Abominations.
 
MHz
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Jan 27th, 2010
I asked somebody this once, no reply yet. If you get $100 from the Bank @ 3% interest shouldn't you hand them back $3 and keep the $97 (that stays in circulation forever) rather than owing them $103? The trillions they are sitting on should have stayed in circulation, all they should have is $3,000,000,000,000 the other $97,000,000,000,000 should be floating around.
 
Cliffy
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Jan 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

I asked somebody this once, no reply yet. If you get $100 from the Bank @ 3% interest shouldn't you hand them back $3 and keep the $97 (that stays in circulation forever) rather than owing them $103? The trillions they are sitting on should have stayed in circulation, all they should have is $3,000,000,000,000 the other $97,000,000,000,000 should be floating around.

It doesn't matter if it is $103 or 103 trillion, it is not real. It is just 0 & 1s in computers. It is based on nothing but an inflated credit scheme, so what difference does it make. A scam is a scam.
 
Cliffy
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Jan 27th, 2010
Someone mentioned tonight that the credit card companies are making a killing of these donations. Has anybody heard if they are going to forgo credit charges on donations or not? Or at lesst forward some of the profits to relief work?
 
MHz
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Has anybody heard if they are going to forgo credit charges on donations or not?

LOL Good one, pass on interest payments, you are too much LOL

I could live with paying them 3%, that would pay for all my banking fees. On $100,000 / yr that would be $3,000.
 
Kreskin
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

I asked somebody this once, no reply yet. If you get $100 from the Bank @ 3% interest shouldn't you hand them back $3 and keep the $97 (that stays in circulation forever) rather than owing them $103? The trillions they are sitting on should have stayed in circulation, all they should have is $3,000,000,000,000 the other $97,000,000,000,000 should be floating around.

They didn't give you the principle you borrowed the principle. The principle is $100. I suppose you can try to keep the $97 but you owe $100 plus accrued interest.
 
TenPenny
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

I asked somebody this once, no reply yet. If you get $100 from the Bank @ 3% interest shouldn't you hand them back $3 and keep the $97 (that stays in circulation forever) rather than owing them $103? The trillions they are sitting on should have stayed in circulation, all they should have is $3,000,000,000,000 the other $97,000,000,000,000 should be floating around.

Can I borrow $100 from you? I'll give you 3% interest....
 
MHz
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Jan 28th, 2010
Sorry no can do, you don't qualify. The way your loan works is that I am the Banker and you make less than me so your loan carries ....... 0% interest. I will make more money if I charge the people who make more than me (take home) interest at 6%. That pays all my expenses (printing presses & paper, banks, employees etc.). Not the original enticement but I hope it will serve your needs. BTW I don't tell you my take home until you tell me how much you are looking for.
Last edited by MHz; Jan 28th, 2010 at 09:57 AM..
 
MHz
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by KreskinView Post

They didn't give you the principle you borrowed the principle. The principle is $100. I suppose you can try to keep the $97 but you owe $100 plus accrued interest.

I should only owe them $100 if they spent $100. Would you willingly pay somebody so their profit margin never falls below 97,000%? lol
 
VanIsle
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Jan 28th, 2010
If they gave you $100.00, they spent $100 even if only for a moment. If we were friends and I loaned you that money I would not expect more than your original loan back. If I was in the business of "making" money, I would expect the 3% interest even if you borrowed it for an hour. During that hour it is likely that several 100 other people borrowed more than that amount and some of them will never repay it. You on the other hand, are helping to make up for those who pay late or do not pay at all.
 
VanIsle
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Someone mentioned tonight that the credit card companies are making a killing of these donations. Has anybody heard if they are going to forgo credit charges on donations or not? Or at lesst forward some of the profits to relief work?

Hi Cliff, I got this from some blog:
Sunday, January 17, 2010

Haiti, Credit Cards, and Charitable Donations



Are credit card companies morally obligated to waive their fees when people use their credit cards to donate to disaster relief, or is doing so itself a charitable act, something above and beyond the call of duty?

I think it's great that the major credit card companies have all decided to waive their fees — but I think it's important to acknowledge that as an act of charity. It's an act of corporate philanthropy, not something they're obligated to do. (The move to waive their fees came, unfortunately, after the firms were -- for making money off the current crisis.)
 
VanIsle
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Jan 28th, 2010
I didn't have anyone make a donation to Haiti yesterday. On days previous to that people have been making cash donations to the store. When store points are used starting 1000 at a time which equals $1.00, the store matches the donation. Some people have donated all of their points which can be over 100,000 pts = $100.00 from them and the store matches it dollar for dollar.
 
Cliffy
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Jan 28th, 2010
Ah! Shamed into being charitable. That is always a good reason.
 
VanIsle
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Ah! Shamed into being charitable. That is always a good reason.

Maybe not a good reason but at least it's incentive.
 
petros
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Jan 28th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Can I borrow $100 from you? I'll give you 3% interest....

okay but there is a cash application fee of $25 (non fundable) OAC
 
darkbeaver
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Feb 12th, 2010
Hati is already old news. They're being ground into even finer dust while we Canadians squander hundreds of millions on GAMES. The Olympics should have been cancelled and all the useless track stars sent to Hati to show us their atheletic prowess. I'm ashamed to be Canadian, over two-hundred thousand dead and the rest starving under military occupation and we will play games. 40 million pissed into the wind for the goddamn opening show. Excuse me I have to puke on the flag.
 
EagleSmack
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Feb 12th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Hati is already old news. They're being ground into even finer dust while we Canadians squander hundreds of millions on GAMES. The Olympics should have been cancelled and all the useless track stars sent to Hati to show us their atheletic prowess. I'm ashamed to be Canadian, over two-hundred thousand dead and the rest starving under military occupation and we will play games. 40 million pissed into the wind for the goddamn opening show. Excuse me I have to puke on the flag.



That's not very patriotic.
 
#juan
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Feb 12th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Hati is already old news. They're being ground into even finer dust while we Canadians squander hundreds of millions on GAMES. The Olympics should have been cancelled and all the useless track stars sent to Hati to show us their atheletic prowess. I'm ashamed to be Canadian, over two-hundred thousand dead and the rest starving under military occupation and we will play games. 40 million pissed into the wind for the goddamn opening show. Excuse me I have to puke on the flag.

DB that was your most idiotic post yet. Let's curtail all other activities and ship even more people to Haiti even though they are tripping over each other now. Let's tear our clothes off and sent them to Haiti. For God's sake aircraft are stacked up over Haiti and have to reserve a time to land. What the hell has Canada done to make you ashamed? Canada is not to blame for the corrupt Haitian government that enabled this disaster to happen. Canada had aid workers in Haiti before this damned earthquake happened and some were killed. Give your head a shake DB, your brain is settling to the bottom. I'm ashamed of you.
 
JLM
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Feb 12th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by #juanView Post

DB that was your most idiotic post yet. Let's curtail all other activities and ship even more people to Haiti even though they are tripping over each other now. Let's tear our clothes off and sent them to Haiti. For God's sake aircraft are stacked up over Haiti and have to reserve a time to land. What the hell has Canada done to make you ashamed? Canada is not to blame for the corrupt Haitian government that enabled this disaster to happen. Canada had aid workers in Haiti before this damned earthquake happened and some were killed. Give your head a shake DB, your brain is settling to the bottom. I'm ashamed of you.

Yep, I think that post is a little strong, at the same time I can see what he's driving at in a misguided sort of way. Because of Haiti's disaster, should we quit having fun? NO. I think Canadians have probably contributed quite well towards Haiti's recovery. DB, perhaps has the impression that Canadians (probably the luckiest and most affluent society) take for granted the wealth and good fortune we have. Perhaps you and DB can both move toward a happy medium...............
 
YukonJack
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Feb 12th, 2010
It seems that darkbeaver wants the world to stop at every natural disaster.
 
JLM
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Feb 12th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

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Of each U.S. taxpayer dollar, 40 cents is going to the U.S. military, paying for security, search and rescue teams, and the Navy's hospital ship USNS Comfort.
Another 36 cents funds US AID's disaster assistance - everything from $5,000 generators to $35 hygiene kits with soap, toothbrushes and toothpaste for a family of five.
Just over a dime has already been spent on food: 122 million pounds of pinto beans, black beans, rice, corn soy blend and vegetable oil. When purchased in bulk, the actual food prices are relatively low. Pinto beans, for example, cost the U.S. government 40 cents a pound when purchased in 5 million-pound batches last week.

That headline is very misleading (actually bullsh*t) That is the cash amount. Generators, soap and tooth paste still count as aid. It's criminal how news can be made out of nothing.
 
darkbeaver
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Feb 12th, 2010
Hati is not a natural disaster and Canada has contributed to Hatian misery for years, and we continue to make Hati available to corporate slavers. What sane person witnesses a massive military occupation and calls it aid? The same clowns who think Iraq has been emancipated and Afghanistan is being democratized. Canada has been screwing the Hatian people for decades. The story book Canada I grew up in, never existed.
 

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