Bronze Age log boat remains found

[Blackleaf]

A rare wooden boat dating to the Bronze Age has been discovered in Kent.

The log boat was unearthed at a boatyard in Hollow Shore, Faversham, on Sunday but was returned to the water to prevent it from drying out.

Local archaeologists say the craft is in exceptional condition.

Bronze Age log boat remains found at Faversham boatyard

28 September 2015
BBC News

Dr Paul Wilkinson said half of the craft was lifted out of the clay

A rare wooden boat dating to the Bronze Age has been discovered in Kent.

The log boat was unearthed at a boatyard in Hollow Shore, Faversham, on Sunday but was returned to the water to prevent it from drying out.

Local archaeologists say the craft is in exceptional condition.

Dr Paul Wilkinson, director of Swat Archaeology, was called by the boatyard owners to reports that an Anglo Saxon boat had been unearthed. But he said it was in fact a Bronze Age vessel.

He said such log boats were as "rare as hens' teeth" and very important.

The remains were found in clay and only half of the craft was lifted, he added.

He said the site still needed to be investigated to find the remaining part of the boat.

Experts created a replica Bronze Age boat for a BBC programme in 2006


Bronze Age Britain

The beginning of the Bronze Age in Britain can be put at about 2,000 BC.

It is the crucial period that linked the Stone Age with the Iron Age.

During that time newcomers came to Britain from continental Europe where the Bronze Age was under way.

They brought new ideas and also bronze tools and weapons.

True bronze is a combination of 10% tin and 90% copper. Both materials were readily available in Britain at this time.


Bronze Age log boat remains found at Faversham boatyard - BBC News

 

[AnnaG]

So? Old stuff is found after digging sometimes. It's hardly world-shattering news.

 

[Blackleaf]

So? Old stuff is found after digging sometimes. It's hardly world-shattering news.

I think finding a Bronze Age boat is newsworthy.

In North America, you rarely find items that pre-date 1900. To Britons, 1900 is very recent. Modern history. To you, 1900 is Ancient History.

 

[AnnaG]

I think finding a Bronze Age boat is newsworthy.

In North America, you rarely find items that pre-date 1900.

You just keep thinking that.
I'll keep thinking you're funny.

 

[Blackleaf]

You just keep thinking that.

Well, I will do. Because I'm right. This is an ancient Bronze Age boat, not a 1960s beer can.

 

[EagleSmack]

You just keep thinking that.
I'll keep thinking you're funny.

That is kind of funny isn't it?

Brits have no culture or heritage.

 

[darkbeaver]

I think finding a Bronze Age boat is newsworthy.

In North America, you rarely find items that pre-date 1900. To Britons, 1900 is very recent. Modern history. To you, 1900 is Ancient History.

North America is littered with stone works, multiple human remains of great diverscity, mounds, coins copper works, bronze works, iron works, silver, gold old leather boots arrow heads and far better engineered structures than you can find in Britin. Human habitation probably occured mutiples of millenia earlier than Europe. Recording of these things however has been very sketchy for two hundred years for the simple reason it preserves the established histories, which are total bullsh it for the most part. You could use one of the many search engines before you make such outrageous statements born of pure ignorance and total disregard for the intelligence of your fellow posters. inconsiderate snot!

faux snob , mindless twit, silly walkin limey halfwit, I would come to visit you if I thought I could stand the stench of your filthy streets and your unwashed barely literate masses.

 

[AnnaG]

Well, I will do.

Please do, it is occasionally hysterically funny.

Because I'm right.

No you aren't. People have been discovering stuff like stone tools up to 40,000 years old in North America.

This is an ancient Bronze Age boat, not a 1960s beer can.

Well, I am glad you are able to tell the difference.

That is kind of funny isn't it?

Brits have no culture or heritage.

Right. It's all stolen or borrowed from other peoples.

North America is littered with stone works, multiple human remains of great diverscity, mounds, coins copper works, bronze works, iron works, silver, gold old leather boots arrow heads and far better engineered structures than you can find in Britin. Human habitation probably occured mutiples of millenia earlier than Europe. Recording of these things however has been very sketchy for two hundred years for the simple reason it preserves the established histories, which are total bullsh it for the most part. You could use one of the many search engines before you make such outrageous statements born of pure ignorance and total disregard for the intelligence of your fellow posters. inconsiderate snot!

faux snob , mindless twit, silly walkin limey halfwit, I would come to visit you if I thought I could stand the stench of your filthy streets and your unwashed barely literate masses.

Egg Zachary.

 

[darkbeaver]

Please do, it is occasionally hysterically funny.No you aren't. People have been discovering stuff like stone tools up to 40,000 years old in North America. Well, I am glad you are able to tell the difference.

Every hollowed old tree trunk in Britin is a bronze age boat while in North America it's just a hollowed out tree trunk, dime a dozen. As North Americans WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS CRAP FROM THAT LOT OVER THERE NOMO.

NORTH AMERICA IS THE OLDEST CONTINENT! AND IS MUCH BIGGER SO THERE'S WAY MORE OLD JUNK HERE.

 

[Blackleaf]

and far better engineered structures than you can find in Britin.

Like what?

Britain not too long ago produced the greatest engineers in the world, and we invented most of the steam engines used in factories from the Industrial Revolution onwards.

Human habitation probably occured mutiples of millenia earlier than Europe.

Bull****. Early human remains dating back to 45,000 years ago have been found in Britain.

The first modern humans in Europe were the Cro-Magnons, who arrived there around 50,000 years ago. Even then, the Neanderthals were already in Europe when modern humans arrived. There were no Neanderthals in North America and modern humans only arrived there around 23,000 years ago.

Recording of these things however has been very sketchy for two hundred years for the simple reason it preserves the established histories, which are total bullsh it for the most part. You could use one of the many search engines before you make such outrageous statements born of pure ignorance and total disregard for the intelligence of your fellow posters. inconsiderate snot!

faux snob , mindless twit, silly walkin limey halfwit, I would come to visit you if I thought I could stand the stench of your filthy streets and your unwashed barely literate masses.

To say that North America has anywhere near the history of Britain is just completely ludicrous. North American archaeologists are lucky of they find anything pre-18th Century. Even early 1900s is considered very old.

From Notes From a Small Island (1995), by American Anglophile Bill Bryson:

It sometimes occurs to me that the British have more heritage than is good for them. In a country where there is so astonishingly much of everything, it is easy to look on it as a kind of inexhaustible resource. Consider the numbers: 445,000 listed buildings, 12,000 medieval churches, 1,500,000 acres of common land, 120,000 miles of footpaths and public rights of way, 600,000 known sites of archaeological interest (98 per cent of them with no legal protection). Do you know that in my Yorkshire village alone there are more seventeenth-century buildings than in the whole of North America? And that's just one obscure hamlet with a population comfortably under one hundred. Multiply that by all the other villages and hamlets in Britain and you see that the stockpile of ancient dwellings, barns, churches, pinfolds, walls, bridges and other structures is immense almost beyond counting. There is so much of it everywhere that it's easy to believe that you can take away chunks of it - a half-timbered frontage here, some Georgian windows there, a few hundred yards of ancient hedge or drystone wall - and that there will still be plenty left. In fact, the country is being nibbled to death.


between castle and sky: Notes from a Small Island for Chapter Eight

Every hollowed old tree trunk in Britin is a bronze age boat while in North America it's just a hollowed out tree trunk, dime a dozen. As North Americans WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS CRAP FROM THAT LOT OVER THERE NOMO.

NORTH AMERICA IS THE OLDEST CONTINENT! AND IS MUCH BIGGER SO THERE'S WAY MORE OLD JUNK HERE.

Actually, Australia is the oldest continent.

 

[EagleSmack]

Every hollowed old tree trunk in Britin is a bronze age boat while in North America it's just a hollowed out tree trunk, dime a dozen. As North Americans WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS CRAP FROM THAT LOT OVER THERE NOMO.

NORTH AMERICA IS THE OLDEST CONTINENT! AND IS MUCH BIGGER SO THERE'S WAY MORE OLD JUNK HERE.

DB... hollowed tree trunks are fascinating to the brits.

 

[darkbeaver]

DB... hollowed tree trunks are fascinating to the brits.

You can find them here in any mud bank on any river. I suppose they would think the small ones were for tiny ancient British people with tiny little wings.

I don't see any bronze in the picture.

 

[AnnaG]

Bull****. Early human remains dating back to 45,000 years ago have been found in Britain.

Whoop de doo. There's been stuff found that old here.

The first modern humans in Europe were the Cro-Magnons, who arrived there around 50,000 years ago. Even then, the Neanderthals were already in Europe when modern humans arrived. There were no Neanderthals in North America and modern humans only arrived there around 23,000 years ago.

True that Neanderthalensis is a European phenomenon, but some 50,000 years ago, folks in North America were, well, here read this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041118104010.htm

To say that North America has anywhere near the history of Britain is just completely ludicrous. North American archaeologists are lucky of they find anything pre-18th Century. Even early 1900s is considered very old.

Meh Like Eagle said, you Brits are stupid, or as T-bones put it, imbecilic.

From Notes From a Small Island (1995), by American Anglophile Bill Bryson:

It sometimes occurs to me that the British have more heritage than is good for them. In a country where there is so astonishingly much of everything, it is easy to look on it as a kind of inexhaustible resource. Consider the numbers: 445,000 listed buildings, 12,000 medieval churches, 1,500,000 acres of common land, 120,000 miles of footpaths and public rights of way, 600,000 known sites of archaeological interest (98 per cent of them with no legal protection). Do you know that in my Yorkshire village alone there are more seventeenth-century buildings than in the whole of North America? And that's just one obscure hamlet with a population comfortably under one hundred. Multiply that by all the other villages and hamlets in Britain and you see that the stockpile of ancient dwellings, barns, churches, pinfolds, walls, bridges and other structures is immense almost beyond counting. There is so much of it everywhere that it's easy to believe that you can take away chunks of it - a half-timbered frontage here, some Georgian windows there, a few hundred yards of ancient hedge or drystone wall - and that there will still be plenty left. In fact, the country is being nibbled to death.


between castle and sky: Notes from a Small Island for Chapter Eight

Support for Britland from an admitted Anglophile. ooo There's a shocker.

Actually, Australia is the oldest continent.

Welll, you would have been right a few years ago, but Revealed: The oldest place on Earth hidden in Canada for 4billion years | Daily Mail Online

 

[darkbeaver]

Whoop de doo. There's been stuff found that old here.

True that Neanderthalensis is a European phenomenon, but some 50,000 years ago, folks in North America were, well, here read this: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/11/041118104010.htm

Meh Like Eagle said, you Brits are stupid, or as T-bones put it, imbecilic.

Support for Britland from an admitted Anglophile. ooo There's a shocker.



Welll, you would have been right a few years ago, but Revealed: The oldest place on Earth hidden in Canada for 4billion years | Daily Mail Online

That should just about end this debate. I declare you the winner. Let's move on to something other than Bitish archeological fiction.

 

[eh1eh]

I would like to state what I have learned from this thread.
Ehhmm, Earth old. Humans old. Humans on Earth.

 

[darkbeaver]

I would like to state what I have learned from this thread.
Ehhmm, Earth old. Humans old. Humans on Earth.

Isn't it odd that you would learn something from one of BLs threads oother than why we should visit their ruin pitted land and spend good money in a backward place that dosen't have a decent pyramid of any sort. There are places in deepest Africa indeed much of the world where the architecture is far superior and extensive and has been since recorded history. In Britian we are actually seeing a backward peoples desperate attempts to look important by mimicing real master pieces they might have stumbled over while looting and rapeing in exotic lands while the inhabitants where away on some business. Coal and oak trees were the resources mainly responsible for the very brief and barbaric assent of the British Empire, if we can call it that.

Why is this British mental patient allowed to post at this very prestigious international forum?

 

[eh1eh]

Isn't it odd that you would learn something from one of BLs threads other than why we should visit their ruin pitted land and spend good money in a backward place that doesn't have a decent pyramid of any sort. There are places in deepest Africa indeed much of the world where the architecture is far superior and extensive and has been since recorded history. In Britain we are actually seeing a backward peoples desperate attempts to look important by mimicking real master pieces they might have stumbled over while looting and rapeing in exotic lands while the inhabitants where away on some business. Coal and oak trees were the resources mainly responsible for the very brief and barbaric assent of the British Empire, if we can call it that.

Why is this British mental patient allowed to post at this very prestigious international forum?

Because he is a self interested troll like the rest of us.

 

[darkbeaver]

While I am inclined to accept your considered and well respected opinion I can't help but harbour some doubt as to the individual in question appaling continued abuse of privilage obviously extended to the retard because of some sort of kick back scheme.

there should be an S inthere somewhere maybe?

 

[Blackleaf]

You can find them here in any mud bank on any river. I suppose they would think the small ones were for tiny ancient British people with tiny little wings.

I don't see any bronze in the picture.

How many Bronze Age log boats have been found in Canada? I've been doing research on this and I can't find any examples of Bronze Age log boats in Canada at all. Whereas, here in Britain, eight were found in 2013 alone.

Eight Bronze Age log boats that are 'more important than the Mary Rose' emerge from a silted up river thousands of years after they were left to rot | Daily Mail Online

No you aren't.

Yes I bloody well am.

People have been discovering stuff like stone tools up to 40,000 years old in North America.

No, they bloody haven't. The oldest stone tools in North America were buried in sediments that are between just 13,200 and 15,500 years old.

Humans arrived in North America 2,500 years earlier than thought | Science | The Guardian

In Britain, on the other hand, stone tools have been found in Happisburgh, Norfolk, that were laid down either 840,000 or 950,000 years ago, making them the oldest human artefacts ever found in Britain. These humans that lived in Britain at that time were incredibly ancient even to the earliest humans in North America.

These stone tools found in Happisburgh, Norfolk, are nearly a million years old

First humans arrived in Britain 250,000 years earlier than thought | Science | The Guardian

Happisburgh in Norfolk is, in fact, the place where the earliest human occupation of Britain occurred. Guess what else was found there? The earliest human footprints outside Africa.

Results of research on the footprints were announced on 7 February 2014, and identified them as dating to more than 800,000 years ago. They are the oldest known hominin footprints outside Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happisburgh_footprints

Happisburgh, Norfolk: The earliest known human footprints outside Africa

Well, I am glad you are able to tell the difference.

1960s beer cans are about the oldest archaeological finds that are made in North America. Anything pre-dating 1900 is ancient history to you lot. You think Victorian buildings are old.

Right. It's all stolen or borrowed from other peoples.

Like what?

 

[taxslave]

Funny there are literally thousands of those boats on the west coast.

Didn't need any"experts" to make a replica because there are still functional examples around.