Gun Control is Completely Useless.

Colpy

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Sorry, Unless you come up with something that actually makes sense I see no point in responding. Continue to enjoy your gun porn.




Sorry, I completely disagree. We register handguns, but ignore the much more dangerous rifles and shotguns.




You think attacking gun owners over a terrorist attack performed with a gun smuggled from the USA and gang murders while lowering penalties for gun smuggling and gang activity makes sense?


That says all that needs to be said about your level of intellect.


As for long guns, in case you didn't notice, the people refuse to accept a long gun registration, and the crime committed with handguns vs long guns makes your argument ridiculous.


Registration is idiotic, only good for gov't seizure of legal firearms. That's why we won't stand for the LGR, and refuse to comply.


Licensing is the only control necessary. Beyond that, gun control measures have a radical cost-benefit decline.
 

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oh FFS. does ANYONE? read Spiltdabierre's posts?


Oh GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


James Bondo is coming UNGLUED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not like my posts and asks if anybody reads them????????????


Hey Bondo- how do you know the posts are BAD if YOU DONT READ THEM?????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just a typical LIE-beral- trying to BURY FACTS he finds inconvenient!!!!!!!!!!!!


Censorship of facts that LIE-berals find awkward is TYPICAL of their approach to world affairs!!!!


LIE-berals are blind to the sullen anger brewing in our younger generations! Consider :



Here is an article I spotted on line, written by some VERY FRUSTRATED young guy. He mentions that he HAS been to college and yet is STILL stuck in McJobs-short term, limited skill crap because that is all that is available to so many young people. But what ought to give pause to employers generally and LIE-berals specifically is his RAGE against the temporary employment agencies that have sprung up to get around our labour laws! Here is the kids thought for the day-with a few added comments of my own in brackets)::

Parasitic temp agencies spread like the plague- everywhere!

This is a rant about the proliferation and utter domination of the manufacturing/industrial sectors and possibly other sectors such as administration/office by these parasitic temp/staffing/placement agencies or whatever you choose to call them. I have been wanting to get this off my chest for some years know as I have fallen into the trap for close to a decade with these money vampires. I had a bit of a break when I went to college, but fell back into using them when getting a job the conventional way seemed to go the way of the dodo. This is long-winded but I hope someone sympathetic can bear through it and find wisdom and ideally, create enough awareness of this vastly under represented dilemma.

(I say YES-these `temp` agencies ARE the new norm for so many businesses as its much easier to dispose of workers who are `temp` anyway! Our LIE-beral govt is building an entire sub economy made up of people who are scraping along and who will never own a car or a house and may never get married or have kids because they simply cannot afford it. LIE-berals like it when we dead broke peons sit up and beg for govt scraps-it makes it so much easier for LIE-berals to BUY US!)

(And they have those well paid school teachers set up to provide costly day care for those of us who do have kids. Yes-LIE-berals are delighted to hire a whole new pack of civil service Hogs to staff the extended school day/new daycare situation- in exchange for VOTES! LIE-berals also get to hire another pack of Hogs to `maintain` our crumbling stock of not so affordable housing! Its all about rewarding LIE-beral pals and screwing ordinary people who so often DON’T LIKE LIE-berals!)

This is the Pierre Trudeau dream of taking Canada towards a “just society” as Our Pet called it. By which he meant- a Canada where Anglo Saxons know their place and keep their mouths shut! With LIE-berals perpetually in power thanks to bought and paid for LIE-beral supporters whose lives would be blighted if they lost that LIE-beral gravy and got sent back to private sector penury! And we KNOW that LIE-berals are utterly dependent of Hogs to keep them in power! Pierre Trudeau wrote of his dream of destroying Cdn `Imperialism` and his idiot son Justin is following in his father`s footsteps!)

These agencies do absolutely nothing useful beyond telling you where there is a job, something we used to be able to do ourselves before they took over. Well, I suppose there is one thing they do for you, they take your hard-earned money and collude with companies to ensure your servitude. I have tried and tried and tried to apply the old-fashioned way, sending out resumes, talking to people, even going door to door with little success. I have had some leads, but have yet to pan out- promises, promises. A lot of these companies just tell you they only hire through agencies as well...for f***s sake, is this the new norm?

Also, have never worked for one that paid more than a few cents or a dollar past minimum wage. They do this- the companies that work with agencies- so that they can reap much more profit by doing away with a portion of their HR department as the agency will handle that and they never have to pay out medical benefits. I have even heard of companies getting rid of their long-term workers that have been there for decades just to replace them with temps to save money. Appalling and inexcusable, this should be f***ing illegal.

(Getting rid of older workers in such fashion IS despicable and some companies take advantage but let us also understand that many companies are badly squeezed between their costs and what our over taxed public can actually PAY!)

Sure some of these agencies do hire eventually but often it's a ridiculous wait, several years for some. If you can't tell someone is a good worker after a few months then you are just stringing them along for your own amusement OR PERSONAL PROFIT!) Some are even temps for life and it is often a case of exploitation as far as newcomers to Canada.

I heard of a foreign woman who was working as a temp for about 4 or 5 years since she had moved to Canada and then had the audacity to ask for a permanent position with the company. They got rid of her. That's gratitude for you. This company, along with many others, has a section of permanent workers, that only get hired after they do their time with the agency of course, and they have a section of perpetual temps that will never get hired, ever. Now I am sure by this point some of you may have already assumed that I and/or others am a shit worker or have a bad attitude or am not qualified or whatever. While this may apply to some or even a lot of people, it is not always true. I give 100% or even more to my position. I may not like the circumstances that got me there, but by God I am there to get a job done, that is what I am paid to do.

(One may judge the value of an `temp` employee simply by looking at how regularly the agency phones and offers work. They keep a herd of disposable workers on file and are ruthless about disposing of those they don’t like.)

If it's slow or there is nothing to do, then I find something to do, simple. Don't get me wrong, I have seen my share of lazy dipshits and dumbasses, but I often wonder if it's stupidity or perhaps it is just a lack of experience. I like to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume they all mean well, though sometimes they are just useless. This environment is soul-crushing and demeaning sometimes too and it's no small wonder some people get fed up and give you shit work, since we are all expendable meat bags, right?

I have been trapped in this cycle for close to a decade. Why so long? Because a lot of companies that use agencies want to save money first off, which usually suggests that they are either A: just greedy B: unstable and do it out of some necessity C: other- you decide. I don't have any certificates or specialized skill set, but if you show me properly how to do something, anything, I can do it, given a chance and some time. Unless your job requires a very specialized knowledge or skill set, anyone should be capable of anything if you give them a chance- if they show a little aptitude/skill beforehand and a desire to learn. While I don't have a specific skill set I have a strong motivation to learn all I can about my job and those around me, a versatile worker is invaluable as they can fill in a spot if someone gets sick/goes on vacation etc. There are workers far more skilled than I that I am certain get a raw deal when their companies go under or laid off indefinitely or whatever reason you can find and they wind up at the bottom of the ladder, years of experience means little to most of these places.

I really don't know what else I can say, I could go on, but I have said enough I think. I am more than sure that there are a significant number of you out there that are still in this predicament and more still that have been through this situation to some degree. If I had a choice, I would not work for a company (permanently) that uses temp agencies, as I liken it to handing money to a drug addict, its enabling and keeps the cycle going. Something needs to be done about this, if I had it my way, I'd abolish these ****ers completely (they're on every corner, some big ones lots of small ones there's thousands of them). Or maybe integrate all of them into the government somehow, create a massive overhaul and, nah too much work. Sometimes I think I'd rather be homeless and on the street than give these ****ers another of my hard earned dollars. However it seems as time moves on, my choices and options get fewer and fewer as it's all temp work now and I have bills to pay and a belly to fill. I shudder at the thought of those in my position that have children and mortgages and cars and such. I cannot conceive how some survive these days, even in a first world nation.

Thanks for hanging in there, I had to get that off my chest. If you can identify in some way we need to make more noise about this.

(It should be interesting to see how our new Cdns/Syrian refugees respond to this `temp` crap. Will they start screaming RACIST over this treatment? Or will they simply get radical and blow things up for some kicks and vengeance? And it will give our LIE-beral overlords an excuse to set up another costly committee and throw MORE MONEY at problems LIE-berals are creating!)
 

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What percentage of gun crime is committed with a hand gun? What percentage of gun crime is committed with a shot gun?




As long as you are debating guns with Colpy and taxslave, B.S. you are going to come out on the losing end of the argument.

About the same ratio of Knives to Baseball bats :)
 

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Oh GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


James Bondo is coming UNGLUED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He does not like my posts and asks if anybody reads them????????????


Hey Bondo- how do you know the posts are BAD if YOU DONT READ THEM?????????????


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just a typical LIE-beral- trying to BURY FACTS he finds inconvenient!!!!!!!!!!!!




Full of yourself much?
 

DaSleeper

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This is for the retired medical secretary:
Gun Deaths in Canada

The statistic counter above is based on a rate of 722 gun deaths per year. This was calculated on a population total of 36,708,100 courtesy of Statistics Canada weighed against the per 100,000 percentages of the four gun death categories.


Gun Deaths in Canada this Year


Medical errors killing up to 24,000 Canadians a year

CBC News · Posted: Jun 10, 2004 9:32 AM ET | Last Updated: June 10, 2004

Nearly a quarter of Canadian adults say they or a family member have experienced a preventable medical error, according to a report released Wednesday. Drug errors and infections top the list.



https://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/medical-errors-killing-up-to-24-000-canadians-a-year-1.514758
 

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Reminder: This is not the USA.


We have very extensive gun control.

Thank you. That is often my point. We have extensive gun control and the USA doesn't.

Surely someone in Canada has studied Canadian trends and can show that things got better in Canada when we passed the gun control laws.

And, I'd like to see something more significant than a slow general improvement over the past 4 decades, because even the USA has seen the same improvements. The same trend in both Canada and USA can probably be attributed to commonly shared things like an aging baby boomer generation.
 

Colpy

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Canada can't say where its crime guns are coming from




Governments, police not collecting national statistics on whether guns are smuggled or sourced domestically


Evan Dyer · CBC News · Posted: Aug 10, 2018 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago


There's a lack of consistent data on the origin of guns used in crime in Canada - and no national effort to collect accurate numbers. (Robert Short/CBC)


"It is a fact that the majority of gun-related crimes in our communities are committed with guns that are domestically-sourced," RCMP Inspector Chris McBryan told the Vancouver Sun two years ago.
Insp. McBryan was speaking as head of the Western Canada division of the National Weapons Enforcement Support Team (NWEST) of the Canadian Firearms Program (CFP).
But when CBC News contacted the CFP and asked for the data behind his categorical statement, the RCMP replied that no such data exists.
"Inspector McBryan's statement would have been based on information available to him at that time; however, this information would not have provided a complete, national picture of the sources of crime guns, as no such data exists," says a statement from the RCMP.
"Currently, there is no national repository for this type of information in Canada. The Canadian Firearms Program does not collect or track national statistics with regard to the origin of crime guns," said Sgt. Marie Damian.
Lots of speculation, few facts

Conservative Larry Maguire may have thought his status as a member of Parliament could get him better answers, so he put his question about the national origin of seized guns on the order paper.
He received a detailed accounting of seizures from 2015 to 2017 broken down by year, by province, by firearms class and by registration status. But to his main question about whether the guns were sourced in Canada or smuggled from the U.S., he got this reply: "The Canadian Firearms Information System does not collect the requested information."
Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale told a guns and gangs summit in Ottawa this year that more and more guns used in crimes in Canada were coming from within the country.

This statistic is from figures compiled by the Provincial Weapons Enforcement Unit of the Ontario Provincial Police. (CBC)
"With so many crime guns coming from legitimate domestic sources, we need effective firearm measures," he tweeted.
But at the same summit, Lynn Barr-Telford, director-general in charge of justice surveys at Statistics Canada, lamented the "gaps" in her department's data.
"We don't know the origin of firearms involved in gun crime in Canada," she said.
The need for better numbers

It's one of the few subjects on which gun owners and gun control advocates can agree: Canada needs better gun data.
"I remember working on training programs with the national weapons enforcement support team to actually communicate to police why it was important to trace firearms," said Wendy Cukier of the Coalition for Gun Control.
"You can imagine, police often are short-staffed and have limited resources. They're working on solving a murder investigation — focusing on tracing the source of the firearm may or may not be viewed as critical to prosecuting that particular crime.
"And so, typically, tracing firearms has not been a top priority of police agencies across the country."
Cukier said she believes there is convincing anecdotal evidence from police forces to support the idea that more crime guns are coming from within the country.
Former Mountie and gun-rights advocate Dennis Young disagrees with that conclusion — but he said he'd also like to see better tracking.
"Accurate statistics should be collected by the Canadian Firearms Centre, and they're not," he said. "And those statistics should be verified and reported by Statistics Canada, and they're not."
Breaking and entering

Goodale does appear to be able to point to one data set that could support his conclusions: the rise in break-and-enters targeting firearms.
Entering a home or business to steal a gun is a very serious offence that carries a maximum sentence of life in prison — and yet, it's happening more frequently, says Public Safety Canada.
Goodale made the point graphically during the guns and gangs summit in Ottawa this spring:

Public Safety Minster Ralph Goodale tweeted this graphic out after hosting the a summit on gun and gang violence in Ottawa in March. (Twitter)
But a closer look at Statistics Canada figures raises questions about this argument.
"Between 2013 and 2016 ... break-ins for the purpose of stealing firearms went up by 56 per cent," Goodale wrote in an op-ed. That statement is supported by the statistics.
But that statement — like the graph that accompanies Goodale's tweet — fails to capture the fact that, last year, the number of break-ins involving the theft of firearms fell again, by more than 10 per cent, leaving it below the levels of the previous two years.
And statisticians have questioned Public Safety's repeated use of 2013 as a baseline for its year-over-year comparisons, given that 2013 saw the lowest rate of criminal homicides in a half-century, and the lowest rate of fatal shootings ever recorded by Statistics Canada.
'Firearm-related crime'

The problems with Canada's gun statistics don't end with the failure to compile a national database on gun traces. Even the definition of what constitutes a "crime gun" or a "firearm-related violent crime" is problematic.
Most Canadians might assume that a "crime gun" is a gun that has been used in a crime — to shoot, rob or threaten another person. They might assume that a "firearm-related violent crime" is a crime in which a gun has been used, or at least brandished.
Neither assumption is true. As one StatsCan report (Firearms and Violent Crime in Canada, 2016) points out, "for an offence to be considered firearm-related, a firearm need only be present during the commission of the offence, not necessarily used."
Imagine a fist fight between two people in a home: the police are called and, after arresting the guilty parties, they notice a gun cabinet and remove a legally-owned rifle from the home. That fist fight will be recorded as a "firearm-related violent crime."
Found and abandoned

The RCMP's definition of a "crime gun" is also broader than the one used by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms in the U.S. It covers not only guns used (or suspected of having been used) in crimes, but also guns that were illegally acquired or modified by having the barrel cut or the serial number altered, or guns that were "found" or "abandoned."
Most problematic are the categories of "found" guns and illegal acquisition. Say a lawful firearms owner dies, leaving behind a hunting rifle that his widow has no lawful authority to possess. She surrenders it to police; the gun probably isn't a threat to public safety, but it could still be listed as a "crime gun."
It just obscures the reality of what a crime gun is.- Gun-rights advocate Dennis Young on the gaps in Canada's firearms statistics​
Likewise, if a hunter buys a shotgun at a gun show when his license is expired, he's acquired that gun illegally; if it's subsequently seized by police, it becomes a "crime gun." The same designation likely awaits the rusty old rifle discovered in the attic above the barn, even though it may have been forgotten for decades.
Blending those types of firearms with semi-automatic handguns recovered at murder scenes seems likely to reduce the usefulness of the statistics, and of any conclusions gleaned from them.
Gun owners say the breadth of that "crime gun" category risks inflating the number of true crime guns originating in Canada.
"These aren't people that have done anything wrong other than run afoul of red tape that's invented by Ottawa," said Young. "It just obscures the reality of what a crime gun is."
Seized guns rarely have smoking barrels

Statistics compiled by the RCMP's Canadian Firearms Program on seizures of "crime guns" in Western Canada in 2014 suggest that few such weapons are linked to specific violent incidents.
Of 1,140 "crime guns" seized in B.C., Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, NWT and Yukon that year, only 150 were recovered following specific violent offences, including "disturbance" and "uttering threats."
A far larger number were seized by police executing warrants, traffic stops or Mental Health Act interventions, or were listed as "abandoned/found."

CBSA displays guns and magazines it has seized. (Denis Dossmann/CBC)
And "crime guns" only make up a subset of the total number of guns seized by police in Canada.
The category of "seized" guns includes large numbers of firearms seized for what might be called administrative offences.
"Examples of such seizures include lapsed registration, improper storage, failure to renew a license and licenses revoked," said Sgt. Damian.
Some of those offences — particularly improper storage and license revocation — do have public safety implications. But those guns probably are still of less concern to the public than the semi-automatic handguns that are already in criminal hands.
It seems the one safe conclusion that can be drawn from Canada's available gun data is that we'd be better off if we had more of it.




https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/gun-crime-statistics-1.4779702


Kudos to the CBC for doing this article, albeit amongst a storm of articles "manufacturing consent" for an unprecedented gov't attack on legal gun owners.
 

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What percentage of gun crime is committed with a hand gun? What percentage of gun crime is committed with a shot gun?
How many crimes are not gun related? How many white collar crimes are ever investigated and successfully prosecuted and the money (many trillions) recovered and given back to the victims of the crime, the taxpayers.
 

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"for an offence to be considered firearm-related, a firearm need only be present during the commission of the offence, not necessarily used."


That is insane.

I wonder if the same idiots are including bar fights as 'internet crime" whenever someone has a smart phone in their pocket.
 

spilledthebeer

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We'ed need to hold them hostage with a gun to get justice out of them.
:)


Oh dear me- 77 percent of guns seized by Cdn cops were traced back to United States!!!


And that is the usual LIE-beral BULLSH+T!!!!



LIE-berals do NOT tell us how many of the other 30 percent of guns were NOT traced back to ANY SOURCE!!!!


Nor do they break down the numbers to indicate WHY the guns were seized!!!!



After all- seizing a long gun from a hungry resident of Northern Ontari-owe who is hunting deer out of season and or doing so in season but without a costly hunting permit is quite a different thing from seizing a pistol from some gang banger!!!!!!


Poor LIE-berals - they are rapidly running out of propaganda to dazzle us with!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Another cop-killing mass murder in New Brunswick. Let freedom ring, eh?

At least 4 dead in Fredericton after Brookside Drive-area shooting

Now, if those murdered cops had only been carrying, there wouldn't have been a crime,


It becomes ever more clear why cops end up shooting people. As I have said before-too many people become drooling idiots and forget how to behave when confronted by a cop just doing his job! The following report by Joe Warmington of Toronto Sun News illustrates a disturbing social trend. I include some comments of my own in brackets) along with his informative report:

Young armed punks brazen in cop stare down

By Joe Warmington, Toronto Sun. First posted: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 07:06 PM EDT | Updated: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 09:54 PM EDT
Neil Corrigan

Toronto - It was an armed standoff in Kensington Market few even knew about.


At one end of an alley in the heart of the Spadina and College-area market there were three young punks, armed and dangerous. At the other end were two Toronto Police officers looking for three fitting the description of armed robbery suspects.

The potential for blood, death, funerals and God knows what else was not only possible, but imminent on June 8.

“This is where the rubber meets the road,” said Supt. Neil Corrigan, unit commander of Toronto Police’s 14 Division.

In almost 30 years as a Toronto cop, Corrigan thought he has pretty much seen it all. But he had never seen what happened next.

“Normally when the police arrive, in my experience, young people just run away,” he said. Not anymore.

Instead the trio starred down police and started hurling insults and challenged the officers. “They had no fear of police and no understanding of the job we are sworn to do,” said Corrigan.

(I personally would suggest the kids simply have no CARE for the job cops do!)

The teens had allegedly just robbed eight people at gunpoint outside a coffee shop at Bellevue and Nassau. “One of the victims was a female who was poked in the ribs by a handgun. Others lost their wallets and cell phones, credit cards and cash. They were all traumatized.”

Meanwhile, the thugs were ”yelling that the police have no power to do anything and there is nothing we could do,” Corrigan said. “They were wrong.”

They just didn’t know it yet.

“One of the youths brushed up against a car in the alley and there was a loud clang. Right away my officers knew the suspect was armed with a heavy-duty gun.”

Calling it “remarkable” policing, his officers swooped in and arrested two of the youths.

Aged 15 and 16, they are in custody and two loaded handguns are off the street. They next day, police arrested the third suspect, 16, but are still looking for his gun.

They will appear at 311 Jarvis St. court Thursday at 9 a.m. The charges include “robbery with firearm, point firearm, use firearm in commission of offence, unauthorized possession of a firearm, possession of a restricted firearm with ammunition, possession of firearm contrary to prohibition order, possession of a weapon obtained by crime” as well as bail and probation condition breaches.

“It’s just pure luck no one was hurt or killed,” said Det.-Sgt. Ian McArthur, of 14 Division Criminal Investigation Bureau.

What about next time?

In a climate of banned carding and soft-on-crime courts, today’s young, armed criminal doesn’t seem to have any fear of carrying loaded guns or using them.

Corrigan says the defiance and notion among armed youth that officers are handcuffed thanks to politics and regulations is alarming because he shudders to think what could have transpired.

This is why he took to Twitter and Facebook.

On Twitter he wrote June 9: “Bad guys believe cops are not allowed to stop or talk to them, is that why so many seem to carry guns now?

Robbery suspects with guns tell my officers, Cops cant stop us or talk to us. They were WRONG. At TPS14Div; at TPSOperations
— Neil Corrigan (at) SuptCorrigan) June 9, 2016

On Facebook: “My officers respond to a robbery call, they located two suspects nearby who tell my officers that the police can’t stop them and can’t talk to them! The suspects are armed with two concealed guns in their pockets yet they believe the police are no longer allowed to stop or talk to them. That is the problem!!”

(I say this is the fault of LIE-berals-those craven vote seeking cowards who never met a citizen they didn’t think they could not both bribe and baffle with their bullshit! LIE-beral `hug a thug` judges with their `catch and release` mentality are allowing thugs to think of themselves as victims of white bigotry. This is an obvious problem when the REAL dual problems are crap attitude on the part of black thugs and a debauched and ruined economy with no real jobs available thanks to LIE-beral taxed to the max attitudes!)

“This is all about community safety,” said Corrigan. “Safety for my officers, safety for everybody.”

But when you have young criminals who have no respect for police, are so brazen, there is an issue that needs to be dealt with.

“That’s why I wrote what I wrote,” said Corrigan.

It’s more preferable than writing a letter to the widow of another slain police officer or parent of a dead kid shot by police. Corrigan almost had to write a bunch of them last week.

jwarmington at postmedia

WHAT IS CARDING?

”Carding” or “street checks” occur when police officers stop a person in a capacity that does not involve arrest and leads to that person providing the officer with personal information. Police record the information and keep it on file for intelligence purposes.

HOW DID WE GET HERE?

Members of a number of Toronto’s minority communities have contended for years that they are disproportionately targeted by police officers during street checks. They say that the practice is racially motivated, has undermined trust in officers, and violates privacy and charter rights.

(I say it is understandable that black parents would not wish to see their kids end up in jail but the ugly fact is that black kids are committing all manner of crimes and crap excuses by their parents an pals won’t/shouldn’t keep thugs from punishment.

In March, the Ontario government brought in new rules for police engagement with the public. The rules spell out how police can approach individuals who are not a witness or suspect in a crime. They also prohibit the practice of carding.

(I say the new rules of engagement are a CRAVEN LIE-beral sop to the most irresponsible and outright stupid members of the community-nothing but LIE-beral vote buying at the expense of public safety! Further, there are valid reasons why young offenders ought not to be sent to jail-not least because they end up picking up contacts and ideas for future crimes from older thugs. And of course they often end up victimized in various ways by older convicts.)

(But the LIE-beral approved slap on the wrist is clearly not suitable for armed and dangerous morons! Corporal punishment-caning is clearly the answer for these young, strong, arrogant thugs-so convinced we can do nothing against them!)

(LIE-beral whiners call caning or other corporal punishment barbaric but what other HONEST option is there? Is it fair to ignore the crap attitude of these dorks until such time as they commit a crime serious enough that they be labeled as dangerous offenders and get locked away for decades? If a dog bites, we recognize the danger and deal with it-why NOT so with armed goon kids? If LIE-berals are so concerned for these morons, then WHY are they not willing to take dramatic steps to try to save them from their own ignorance and confusion before the damage is PERMANENT?)

( The basic laws of peace and order of our society are under attack by gun toting morons-and it stands to reason that a series of serious cracks on the ass with a cane-as is done in India and such places offers a quick, cheap and very effective means of reminding our thugs that we are displeased with their behaviour!)

(Certainly caning offers a real alternative to sending young thugs to `Holiday Innis`-the youth facility in Innisfil that is simply a holding ground for morons whom LIE-beral judges have not got around to releasing-or not yet sent back home to `house arrest`-with hopeless and ineffectual Mommy acting as jailer to the still defiant goon!)

Toronto’s police association has defended carding, saying it is a legitimate investigative tool that brings down crime rates.

(Strange to say Toronto Red Star AGREES with cops in this. Toronto Red Star did an article last year about how quiet its gotten in youth court since `carding` was curtailed!)

(But of course real action by LIE-berals to bring back `carding` or to impose real punishment on seriously defiant thugs would expose the dangerous holes in LIE-beral philosophy! Even worse, re-introducing carding and using corporal punishment might result in LIE-berals losing ethnic votes-and this is of far greater interest to LIE-berals than any amount of public safety! )

(Congratulations to LIE-berals for having destroyed the economy with insane taxes, loaded us up with massive debts, ruined the credibility of our legal system with hug a thug garbage and made a serious mess of public safety! But that`s LIE-berals for you-too stupid to follow and too corrupt to lead!)