Trudeau, meets with premiers to craft: The Pan Canadian Climate Agreement

[lone wolf]

Does that make it stop?

 

[Mowich]

 

[petros]

Make ON an PQ pay a Fentanyl tax to cover BC junkie costs.

A guaranteed 2 deaths a day and hundreds more brought back from dieing a day. Some multiple times a day.

If Climate Change killed that many Canadians per day, then maybe there should be carbon taxes but people aren't dieing from climate change and here we are paying for something humans can adapt to as they have in the past.

We can't adapt to fentanyl.

 

[mentalfloss]

It's time for Trudeau to go to the UN and force the US to implement a carbon price.

It's the world vs the US now.



Biden Calls Trudeau World’s Only Hope Against Climate Change

Vice President Joe Biden believes the world will need the steady-handed leadership only Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau could provide to defeat global warming.

Trudeau and German Chancellor Angela Merkel must fill the void left by a departing Obama administration in the fight against climate change, Biden told a group of former prime ministers Thursday.

“The changes that are going to take place are going to be astronomical,” the vice president said, referring to the kind of actions needed to reduce carbon emissions in a world dominated by a Trump administration.

He added: “The progress is going to be made but it’s going to take men like you Mr. Prime Minister, who understand it has to fit within the context of a liberal economic order, a liberal international order, where there’s basic rules of the road.”

Biden heaped praise on Canada, singling out the two countries’ battle against Islamic militants, and combating climate change, calling it “the most consequential issue of our generation.”

Biden Calls Trudeau Climate's Only Savior | The Daily Caller

 

[petros]

Why? Are they that desperate to fleece the electorate like here?

 

[mentalfloss]

Because America is about to gut itself and this is the only way to prevent it from taking the rest of us down with it.

 

[MHz]

It's time for Trudeau to go to the UN and force the US to implement a carbon price.

Can't we just donate you to some steaming volcano? Like in the good old days.

Because America is about to gut itself and this is the only way to prevent it from taking the rest of us down with it.

We are already on the bottom waiting for the US to join us. Where do you get all these conspiracy topics from??

 

[Curious Cdn]

Because America is about to gut itself and this is the only way to prevent it from taking the rest of us down with it.

Unfortunately, America is about to undo a half century of environmental legislation and whatever we do up here is likely for nought.

 

[DaSleeper]

More salt pls

 

[pgs]

Why Quebec (and Ontario) will get an unfair break on Trudeau’s carbon tax, while other provinces pay double

Consider it the curious incident of the dog that didn’t bark, federal-provincial edition.

In October, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced a new national carbon tax: the most significant federal intrusion into provincial jurisdiction in decades. And Quebec, that ever-vigilant guardian of provincial rights — one that’s never encountered an imposition from Ottawa it didn’t denounce as a grave threat to its right to self-determination — had nothing to say. Well, not exactly. Quebec Premier Phillipe Couillard actually called it a “positive” move.

Ottawa plans to invade a policy area that’s long been the exclusive domain of the provinces. With a new tax. And Quebec is okay with this? What in the name of maître chez nous is going on here?

The answer to this mystery reveals the inconsistencies, confusions and looming crisis at the heart of Canada’s national carbon tax plan.

Trudeau plans to impose a $10-per-tonne tax on carbon emissions starting in 2018, rising $10 yearly to $50 in 2022, on all provinces not pricing carbon at an equivalent rate. B.C. and Alberta will be exempt if their provincial carbon taxes rise to meet the federal rate.

The same goes for provinces operating cap-and-trade systems. Quebec is already a partner with California in a carbon-trading system called the Western Climate Initiative (WCI) that Ontario will join shortly. Nova Scotia plans to operate its own cap-and-trade plan.

Last summer, Couillard said he had no objections to a federal carbon tax “as long as it does not conflict with our carbon market.” He thus expects Ottawa to leave him alone when it comes to putting a price on carbon. But central to the federal plan is the notion that carbon prices must be consistent across the country. Large deviations between federally mandated tax-rate hikes and cap-and-trade permit prices will inevitably lead to serious economic problems — and political mayhem.

Currently the permit price for carbon emissions in Quebec under the WCI is around $16 per tonne, higher than the federal tax’s introductory level. By 2020, however, the minimum national carbon tax will have risen to $30 while the floor price for permits in Ontario and Quebec is projected at just $19 per tonne. That gap is expected to grow. By 2022, when the national carbon tax hits $50, the WCI permit price is estimated at below $24. People in Alberta and B.C. will thus be taxed twice as much as Ontarians and Quebecers. Differences that large will pose a major threat to constitutional harmony.

What explains this massive price difference? California Scheming.

To smooth over political objections to pricing carbon, California deliberately created a vast oversupply of emissions permits in its electricity sector, pushing down prices and leaving the state awash in excess permits until at least 2026. The opportunity to harvest this crop of cheap permits is what’s driving Quebec and Ontario’s participation in the WCI — and why these permit prices will be substantially below Trudeau’s carbon-tax minimums. Without access to California’s low-cost permits, Ontario’s own research shows its permit prices would rise to a stunning $157 per tonne in just two years, destroying any argument for cap and trade.

Cap and trade thus offers Quebec and Ontario an enormous competitive advantage over provinces subject to Trudeau’s mandatory carbon tax, namely B.C., Alberta, and perhaps Saskatchewan and Newfoundland. How’s that for a national plan?

More...........

Why Quebec (and Ontario) will get an unfair break on Trudeau’s carbon tax, while other provinces pay double | Financial Post

Well would you expect anything else ?

Because we did our homework and didn't pretend climate change doesn't exist.

Karma's a bitch, Brad.

How is that electric car your driving ?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Well would you expect anything else ?


How is that electric car your driving ?

Why would I expect any other attitude from an Albertan. You're a province of victims, poor you.

 

[pgs]

Unfortunately, America is about to undo a half century of environmental legislation and whatever we do up here is likely for nought.

Good are we going to start putting lead back in our gasoline ?

Why would I expect any other attitude from an Albertan. You're a province of victims, poor you.

O K but I don't live in Alberta . But nice to see that attitude toward your fellow Canadians . BTW how many jobs have been lost in Oakville lately ? Was one of them yours ?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Good are we going to start putting lead back in our gasoline ?

Hey, why not? Only Commie fuctard libtard dem-dum socispists from Ontario and Quebec think that there's something wrong with lead in our children's blood.

Commies.

Good are we going to start putting lead back in our gasoline ?


O K but I don't live in Alberta . But nice to see that attitude toward your fellow Canadians . BTW how many jobs have been lost in Oakville lately ? Was one of them yours ?

I don't work in Oakvile and I most certainly am employed. Oakville is one if the richest places on this continent,btw.

 

[MHz]

Good are we going to start putting lead back in our gasoline ?

You should be aware of the product that can put the lead in your pencil. Gasoline will get replaced with Natural Gas and you fill up at home where it is easier and cheaper.

 

[Remington1]

Trudeau needs to get out of his cocoon and take care of our seniors. Seniors are cutting their grocery bill to pay their hydro. WTF is that all about. It's hard to accept this disgusting situation when we are rebuilding 24 Sussex Drive at a cost of 38 Millions, more than the most expensive house on the Bridle Path!! Cost to the tax payers (to date) to settle the refugees is at 1 billion, plus all the useless spending by the Liberals!! This one I find very disturbing.

 

[mentalfloss]

Seniors have too many benefits.

They're old and need to die.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Seniors have too many benefits.

They're old and need to die.

Hey! I just get my 20% discount on Thursdays at Shoppers Drug Mart.

That's it!

That's all!

 

[mentalfloss]

Okay fine, let him through..

 

[Mowich]

It's time for Trudeau to go to the UN and force the US to implement a carbon price.

:lol::lol::lol::lol: So funny you.................so, so funny.

It's the world vs the US now.

Just keep telling yourself that, dear.

Vice President Joe Biden believes the world will need the steady-handed leadership only Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau could provide to defeat global warming.

If Joe thinks that, he's sillier than you.

He added: “The progress is going to be made but it’s going to take men like you Mr. Prime Minister, who understand it has to fit within the context of a liberal economic order, a liberal international order, where there’s basic rules of the road.”

Good luck with that - from what I've seen of The Donald so far, rules don't apply.

Biden heaped praise on Canada ....

Quelle surprise

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[JamesBondo]

Today my wife and I agreed on how to better use our pans.

We are calling it the Pan-Pan agreement.

Peter will be proud of us.