Americans manufacture another nuclear crisis

petros

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Taxation started under Wilson though.

"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men." -Woodrow Wilson, after signing the Federal Reserve into existence
 

ironsides

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Wasn't referring to the income tax, FDR started taxing the rich and just about anybody in hopes that would help get us out of the depression. Then WW-II started and the U.S. started making money off the world. I suggest you read "The Creature from Jekyll Island" A second look at the Federal Reserve. Excellent book on the topic.
 

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this is the next paragraph from your source (infoplease link):


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The Taliban's rise to power

The Taliban are one of the mujahideen ("holy warriors" or "freedom fighters") groups that formed during the war against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan (1979-89). After the withdrawal of Soviet forces, the Soviet-backed government lost ground to the mujahideen. In 1992, Kabul was captured and an alliance of mujahideen set up a new government with Burhanuddin Rabbani as interim president. However, the various factions were unable to cooperate and fell to fighting each other. Afghanistan was reduced to a collection of territories held by competing warlords.


... and there is more ...




This was during the Reagan and Bush years.

Wrong. The Taliban was NOT around during the Soviet-Afghan War.

Taliban - MSN Encarta
 

earth_as_one

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Right.

Read your link IS:

The Taliban movement emerged out of the chaos and uncertainty of the Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989)

The Taliban and the Mujahudeen are the same people. After they ousted the Russians, they reorganized, focused on running Afghanistan and called themselves the Taliban. They still wore the same clothes, carried the same weapons and had the same beliefs.
 

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Exactly. Just the Bolsheviks who became the Soviets. Different name. Same people.

Republicans try to pretend the Mujahideen/Taliban are not the same so that they can lay the blame for their existence on the Democrats. Nobody but themselves are fooled by this tactic.
 

jsiooa

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So, you think it is okay for Iran to have nuclear weapons.

It's not any more "okay" for the U.S to have nuclear weapons.

Frankly Israel is a terrorist country and Iran should have the right to protect themselves any way necessary. nuclear weapons is a little far but if Israel has them, how else can Iran defend that other than attaining nuclear weapons themselves?
 
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Exactly. Just the Bolsheviks who became the Soviets. Different name. Same people.

Republicans try to pretend the Mujahideen/Taliban are not the same so that they can lay the blame for their existence on the Democrats. Nobody but themselves are fooled by this tactic.

I have no doubt that elements of the Taliban existed amongst the nine or so groups that fought the Soviets.

So what? Then they were fighting a vicious tyranny determined to depopulate and control the nation because of its geo-political significance........anyone that wants to compare the occupation of Afghanistan by the USSR, and the current UN approved mission has no clue what they are on about.

No matter who they consisted of, in the 1980s the rebels needed aid against the EVil Empire.

In the 2000s the Taliban need to be made dead.

Things change.
 

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It's not any more "okay" for the U.S to have nuclear weapons.

Frankly Israel is a terrorist country and Iran should have the right to protect themselves any way necessary. nuclear weapons is a little far but if Israel has them, how else can Iran defend that other than attaining nuclear weapons themselves?

God, another one.:roll:

First of all, let me point out the obvious. Both the United States of American and Israel are western nations.......secular, democratic, based on rule-of-law.......

Iran is a lunatic theocracy straight out of the seventh century......in fact, 1,000 years ago Islam was at the cutting edge of intellectual development, so let me re-phrase.....Iran is a lunatic theocracy that is symbolic of the devolution of Islam......it is much worse than the Islamic states of 1,000 years ago.

What that means, in plain Dick and Jane language, is that the USA and Israel are on OUR side.

Iran is Mordor.

Israel has had nuclear weapons since the late 1960s, and has never used them.......despite their desperate situation in the Yom Kippur War in the early 70s.

The USA has a huge nuclear arsenal.....and used the weapon only twice, immediately after its development 65 years ago, to bring the worst war in history to an abrupt end, saving millions of lives. To the enthusiastic cheers of her allies, including us.

Your lack of understanding of the clash of civilizations is clearly exposed in the relativism inherent in your post. I suggest, if you seriously believe that Iran having nukes is the same as the USA having nukes, that you go live in Iran for 6 months.....maybe then you would be intellectually capable of chosing a side.
 
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ironsides

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Right.

Read your link IS:

The Taliban movement emerged out of the chaos and uncertainty of the Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989)

The Taliban and the Mujahudeen are the same people. After they ousted the Russians, they reorganized, focused on running Afghanistan and called themselves the Taliban. They still wore the same clothes, carried the same weapons and had the same beliefs.


They are the same people, but different beliefs and goals. The Mujahudeen are not as fanatical in the religious department, they are nationalists.
 

EagleSmack

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Right.

Read your link IS:

The Taliban movement emerged out of the chaos and uncertainty of the Soviet-Afghan War (1979-1989)

The Taliban and the Mujahudeen are the same people. After they ousted the Russians, they reorganized, focused on running Afghanistan and called themselves the Taliban. They still wore the same clothes, carried the same weapons and had the same beliefs.


I did

The Taliban movement was created in 1994 by a senior mullah (Islamic priest), Mohammed Omar, in the southern Afghanistan city of Kandahār.

What part of that did you not understand? Oh... I forgot that you ignore facts that are contrary to the way you want things to be.


The Taliban fought against a lot of tribes that fought against the Soviets. Al Queda assasinated one of the greatest Mujadeen commanders of the Soviet-Afghan war to shore up Taliban protection. The Taliban came on the scene after the Soviets had left and were the victors of the Afghan Civil War which was fought against many tribes that ejected the Soviets.

United Islamic Front for the Salvation of Afghanistan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A little snippet for you...

"The mujahideen fighters who had previously defeated the communist government and formed the Islamic State of Afghanistan (ISA) came under attack and in 1996 lost the capital to the Taliban. "

Perhaps you should study up a little more.
 

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If and when the Americans INVADE Iran, the only reason will be for the same reason it invaded Iraq. Just as Saddam changed his oil dollars to the euro, that is started selling his oil in euros instead of US dollars, not even one year prior to the invasion. And now so has Iran.
Iran stops selling oil in U.S. dollars -report | Markets | Reuters
So yes they are the next target, and no it is not because of nuclear threat.
 
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petros

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None of you are worried about the yellow cake that travels 3000km by truck on **** highways right next to the largest freshwater bodies in the world or perhaps right by your house?
 

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If and when the Americans INVADE Iran, the only reason will be for the same reason it invaded Iraq. Just as Saddam changed his oil dollars to the euro, that is started selling his oil in euros instead of US dollars, not even one year prior to the invasion. And now so has Iran.
Iran stops selling oil in U.S. dollars -report | Markets | Reuters
So yes they are the next target, and no it is not because of nuclear threat.

Too funny. The Left is just ACHING for the US to invade Iran.