Side-Track Posts re: Moslems, Stonings, Intolerance, ect...


CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

The mistake of Muslims regarding their breakfast in Ramadan

This illustrates that most Muslims follow their traditions rather than the Quran itself. I.e. if there is a tradition narrated from the prophet or one of his companions or one of his family, then most Muslims will follow that tradition and do not follow the Quran itself.

Sunni have their breakfast at the sun-set time, and Shiaa have their breakfast about 10 minutes later.
While in the Quran, it is recommeded thatthe breakfast should be at the night time, which is the darkness: that is about 15-20 minutes following the sun-set time; because at the time of the sun-set, it is not dark, and even one can read a newspaper but after man pray his sun-set prayer, then another 2 rakaa that is not obligatory, so then he may have his breakfast.

This is in the aya 2: 187

Is that why the most deadly thing to a Muslim, is another Muslim?
 
Kakato
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This mean no stoning woman during this time?

 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

This mean no stoning woman during this time?

Like all things, there's exceptions. Stoning before starving.
 
eanassir
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Who said about stoning here, which has only been applied in very few cases? And you cling to such things while it is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Is that why the most deadly thing to a Muslim, is another Muslim?


Muslims are like others of God creation; wasn't Hilter with his broken cross, a Christian and he killed about 50 million of people most of them were Christians?

And were not Jews killed each other in the history; see this link:
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CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

Who said about stoning here, which has only been applied in very few cases?

You mean you don't actually know what's being done in the name of Allah, in places like Iran? Somalia? And so on?

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And you cling to such things while it is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses.

As soon as you can start posting pic's of state sanctioned stoning's in Israel, you can try that one again.

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Muslims are like others of God creation; wasn't Hilter with his broken cross, a Christian and he killed about 50 million of people most of them were Christians?

I'm glad you chose Hitler as a comparison for Muslims. Seems only too fitting.

And no Hitler wasn't a Christian, he was an Occultist.
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

Who said about stoning here, which has only been applied in very few cases? And you cling to such things while it is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses.




Muslims are like others of God creation; wasn't Hilter with his broken cross, a Christian and he killed about 50 million of people most of them were Christians?

Well,some of us have moved on and evolved and dont consider stoning as an acceptable punishment anymore.

Nice Godwin by the way....and on the first page too!
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

This mean no stoning woman during this time?

And no beheadings or cutting off noses and ears either Kakato.
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Do you gentlemen actually have anything to contribute to a discussion about Ramadan beyond just bashing Muslims?

Yes,lets ignore Sharia law and it's relation to ramadan and the Muslims who follow it.

Do they stop stoning people during Ramadan?
Maybe they only bury the gals as deep as the guys as a break during this period.
Isnt there a gal in Iraq who is going to be stoned soon?
 
selin
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

Yes,lets ignore Sharia law and it's relation to ramadan and the Muslims who follow it.

Do they stop stoning people during Ramadan?
Maybe they only bury the gals as deep as the guys as a break during this period.
Isnt there a gal in Iraq who is going to be stoned soon?


you are dancing with bias and ignorance ...
 
Avro
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Not sure why this thread has turned into a fine example of bigotry?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Not sure why this thread has turned into a fine example of bigotry?

Did you really say this?

You just turned it into a thread of hypocricy.
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by selinView Post

you are dancing with bias and ignorance ...

Sorry but this is in the opening post.

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The fasting person is expected to do his best to practice self control and discipline, not to get angry easy, refrain from using harsh language or insults and to tolerate, forgive and respect others. .

So do the stonee's get a break during Ramadan?
 
eanassir
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Quote: Originally Posted by selinView Post

also , they don't know that stonning is a law executed by one or two Muslim countries(which most of the muslims all over the world censure and ignore for their brutal actions made up as if Quran imposed and forced) -not law of Islam any.

If Muslims ignore the Law of God as prescribed in the Quran (which is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses before), then they are not any believers, but only they want to prove to the West that they are modern and humanity lovers,

while better they should seek God's good pleasure by obeying His law in the Quran, which will be for purpose of preventing the fornication and adultery.
 
selin
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Did you really say this?


You just turned it into a thread of hypocricy.


why so angry?
hearing the things you don't wanna hear is hypocricy of you,too...
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

If Muslims ignore the Law of God as prescribed in the Quran (which is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses before), then they are not any believers, but only they want to prove to the West that they are modern and humanity lovers,

while better they should seek God's good pleasure by obeying His law in the Quran, which will be for purpose of preventing the fornication and adultery.

So why do they bury the gals deeper then the guys when they stone them?

If the stonee can escape they will be spared if they can run fast enough.
 
karrie
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Kakato... the ways that we could all highjack every thread with negative aspects of the people in them are countless... Just about any thread on Canada could be highjacked with seal clubbing, first nations squashing, or environment killing arguments. Just about any thread about the US could be routinely highjacked with death penalty debate, anti-war rhetoric, or rants about capitalism.

The fact of the matter is, this thread is about Ramadan, and yes, you can spin some weak reason to bring up the darker aspects of Islam, but it's just an excuse to take an easy shot and you know it.

This thread is about Ramadan, let it be that.
 
selin
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Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

If Muslims ignore the Law of God as prescribed in the Quran (which is also prescribed in the Torah of Moses before), then they are not any believers, but only they want to prove to the West that they are modern and humanity lovers,

while better they should seek God's good pleasure by obeying His law in the Quran, which will be for purpose of preventing the fornication and adultery.


you know what i am talking about,
by the way , there is no stonning law in Quran even there says" the soul given by god only is taken by God "not bastards...
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Did you really say this?

You just turned it into a thread of hypocricy.

Really?

How did I do that?

I see two people of the Muslim faith discussing their holy month and turds running in to bash their entire religion.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Do you gentlemen actually have anything to contribute to a discussion about Ramadan beyond just bashing Muslims?

If you post it, they will come...

Quote: Originally Posted by eanassirView Post

No problem concerning all whether they have their breakfast early like the Sunni or somewhat later like the Shiaa; but the correct thing is what is prescribed in the aya just mentioned: that is to complete or fulfill the fasting till night when it is dark.

And can you please explain to everyone how well Shia and Sunni get along?

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So they work against God's Law prescribed in the Torah: that is in order to appear civilized; huh.

So you advocate ignoring the evolution of man into a civil society, for brutal and archaic traditions?

Good to know...

Hey Karrie, do you have any more question?

Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Not sure why this thread has turned into a fine example of honesty?

You spelled honesty wrong...no worries, I fify...
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by selinView Post

why so angry?
hearing the things you don't wanna hear is hypocricy of you,too...


Really?

I'd really like to hear your definition of hypocricy and how it relates to that claim.

Please explain.
Last edited by Ron in Regina; Aug 12th, 2010 at 03:54 PM..
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Really?

I'd really like to hear your definition of hypocricy and how it relates to that claim.

Please explain.



Fortunately for you the Mods cleaned up the Dingus-Avro exchange from a few days ago.

Remember that?

Yep, no more acceptable than this.

Remind me to appologise to dingus for that.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Fortunately for you the Mods cleaned up the Dingus-Avro exchange from a few days ago.

Remember that?

Hmmm...
Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Remind me to appologise to dingus for that.

Where can I get a bike like that?

The one yer peddling backwards there.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

Bump...

And Ramadan is about Islam. eanassir opened the door, when he made the comment that one sect wasn't doing it right.

Ya, we got that.

If you post it, they will come.

You might want to share one of your PM's with Avro.

Everybody was talking about Islam until then.
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Kakato... the ways that we could all highjack every thread with negative aspects of the people in them are countless... Just about any thread on Canada could be highjacked with seal clubbing, first nations squashing, or environment killing arguments. Just about any thread about the US could be routinely highjacked with death penalty debate, anti-war rhetoric, or rants about capitalism.

The fact of the matter is, this thread is about Ramadan, and yes, you can spin some weak reason to bring up the darker aspects of Islam, but it's just an excuse to take an easy shot and you know it.

This thread is about Ramadan, let it be that.

As seal clubbing is a hunting method I would respond to it,as far as natives wrecking the environment I could also respond to that as one of their ways of life is only take what you need.

So Sharia law advocates stoning and it's all part of the Muslim faith so why cant it be discussed when the opening post stresses forgiveness?
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

As seal clubbing is a hunting method I would respond to it,as far as natives wrecking the environment I could also respond to that as one of their ways of life is only take what you need.

So Sharia law advocates stoning and it's all part of the Muslim faith so why cant it be discussed when the opening post stresses forgiveness?

 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

As seal clubbing is a hunting method I would respond to it,as far as natives wrecking the environment I could also respond to that as one of their ways of life is only take what you need.

So Sharia law advocates stoning and it's all part of the Muslim faith so why cant it be discussed when the opening post stresses forgiveness?

Or why does the different observances, denote a division, that has seen it's fair share of violence?

Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Excellent retort.

Sadly that's about all that's to be expected when your insults and immaturity gets a gag order.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

oh give me a break both of you... one liner combative posts is NOT the same thing as expounding on the implications of Ramadan and the death pentaly, or eanassirs post and how it factors in to Ramadan.

I'm always combative.

And I think I've made the connection quite clear.

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Stop highjacking the thread, or discuss like grown ups instead of trolls.

Sorry Karrie, stoning 9 year old rape victims bring the worst out of me.
 
Ron in Regina
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Sorry Folks...forgot to unlock this one 'till I was reminded to. Whoops...
 
CDNBear
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This was lame, is lame and there's a whole whack of posts in the other thread, that now look whack...

 
Avro
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Thanks Ron...

The folk who wander into simple discussions about the Muslim faith to bash them are the same ones who froth at the mouth if you dare criticise the "perfect" state of Israel.

What a shock.

This thread for me is done.

Ciao.
 

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