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October 2nd, 2007, 11:12 PM
had a nice pm from one of our muslim posters....
I like the way he/she talked about God....
not the way i would but i like the poetic licence to it , if you will...
Feel free anyone to add your ideas on God here ..in this thread...
but I would like to hear from our muslim friend....
sometimes listening to someone else besides what we are brought up with is nice to hear.....
my philosphy is known here..i respect others and question all religions...thats not what I'm looking for in this thread...
had a nice pm from one of our muslim posters....
I like the way he/she talked about God....
not the way i would but i like the poetic licence to it , if you will...
Feel free anyone to add your ideas on God here ..in this thread...
but I would like to hear from our muslim friend....
sometimes listening to someone else besides what we are brought up with is nice to hear.....
my philosphy is known here..i respect others and question all religions...thats not what I'm looking for in this thread...
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 9th, 2007, 01:58 PM
Guess none our Muslim posters have found this thread yet so I will jump in.
I do believe in God. I know many do not these days and I respect that but can not understand it as I have never doubted the presence of a higher power. I have however doubted It's nature. My God is omniscient, omnipresent and personal but non-intrusive.
Anyone else?
Doc, many here may know of your beliefs but I do not so perhaps you and Zan and El Barto can make your beliefs known also in this thread. Newbies are always an opportunity to re-examine what you think you hold as truth.
Guess none our Muslim posters have found this thread yet so I will jump in.
I do believe in God. I know many do not these days and I respect that but can not understand it as I have never doubted the presence of a higher power. I have however doubted It's nature. My God is omniscient, omnipresent and personal but non-intrusive.
Anyone else?
Doc, many here may know of your beliefs but I do not so perhaps you and Zan and El Barto can make your beliefs known also in this thread. Newbies are always an opportunity to re-examine what you think you hold as truth.
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Quebec
Location: Quebec
October 9th, 2007, 04:56 PM
Sal,
My views of God is that its a human concept. One which i don't agree of.
To have an entity watching over us punishing us or what ever we are meant to believe doesn't sit well.
We are all from the same source nothing better nothing below us. Everything and every one as important as the other.
The concept of god is just something to manipulate the weak minded.
Show me a religion where theres a god that doesnt preach about fear in any way?
As soon as you hear anything fearful then i see manipulation.
I should be doing this in the morning . I function better on coffee in the morning than i do on beer at night.
Sal,
My views of God is that its a human concept. One which i don't agree of.
To have an entity watching over us punishing us or what ever we are meant to believe doesn't sit well.
We are all from the same source nothing better nothing below us. Everything and every one as important as the other.
The concept of god is just something to manipulate the weak minded.
Show me a religion where theres a god that doesnt preach about fear in any way?
As soon as you hear anything fearful then i see manipulation.
I should be doing this in the morning . I function better on coffee in the morning than i do on beer at night.
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 9th, 2007, 06:18 PM
Okay, so religions are manipulative. What is their reason for that? Do you believe in a higher power?
Quoting El Barto
Ah hell, I've had wine and I am functionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn oops, maybe not...
Sal,
My views of God is that its a human concept. One which i don't agree of.
To have an entity watching over us punishing us or what ever we are meant to believe doesn't sit well.
We are all from the same source nothing better nothing below us. Everything and every one as important as the other.
The concept of god is just something to manipulate the weak minded.
Show me a religion where theres a god that doesnt preach about fear in any way?
As soon as you hear anything fearful then i see manipulation.
I should be doing this in the morning . I function better on coffee in the morning than i do on beer at night.
My views of God is that its a human concept. One which i don't agree of.
To have an entity watching over us punishing us or what ever we are meant to believe doesn't sit well.
We are all from the same source nothing better nothing below us. Everything and every one as important as the other.
The concept of god is just something to manipulate the weak minded.
Show me a religion where theres a god that doesnt preach about fear in any way?
As soon as you hear anything fearful then i see manipulation.
I should be doing this in the morning . I function better on coffee in the morning than i do on beer at night.
Okay, so religions are manipulative. What is their reason for that? Do you believe in a higher power?
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Quebec
Location: Quebec
October 9th, 2007, 06:54 PM
no not a higher power for that way of thinking makes a division between it and us. tho its not define i 'd like to say a unified conscientiousness.
But when you believe in something your forced to dissbelieve in other things. So the less you believe the more open you are and less judgement you have.
no not a higher power for that way of thinking makes a division between it and us. tho its not define i 'd like to say a unified conscientiousness.
But when you believe in something your forced to dissbelieve in other things. So the less you believe the more open you are and less judgement you have.
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 9th, 2007, 10:40 PM
Quoting El Barto
So is this unified conscientiousness separate from or apart from humans? Does it have will?
no not a higher power for that way of thinking makes a division between it and us. tho its not define i 'd like to say a unified conscientiousness.
But when you believe in something your forced to dissbelieve in other things. So the less you believe the more open you are and less judgement you have.
But when you believe in something your forced to dissbelieve in other things. So the less you believe the more open you are and less judgement you have.
Super Genius
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October 9th, 2007, 11:42 PM
I'd rather not here anyone speak about god...its embarrassing enough as it is.
I can just imagine advanced civilizations light-years away, now receiving broadcasts from Jimmy Swaggart or Falwell, or Oral Roberts....bleh...
Its really surprising that they haven't come and demolished earth to make room for an intragalatic highway yet...
I'd rather not here anyone speak about god...its embarrassing enough as it is.
I can just imagine advanced civilizations light-years away, now receiving broadcasts from Jimmy Swaggart or Falwell, or Oral Roberts....bleh...
Its really surprising that they haven't come and demolished earth to make room for an intragalatic highway yet...
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,897
Location: Quebec
Location: Quebec
October 10th, 2007, 04:03 AM
Tomaska.....I hear you.........don't panic.
Quoting Sal
I'd say unified but these are suggestions and feelings it should be, not deffinate. Who really knows sitting from our perspectives what it really is. We would need to shed our physical eyes to see the beyond.
So is this unified conscientiousness separate from or apart from humans? Does it have will?
Tomaska.....I hear you.........don't panic.
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 10th, 2007, 11:41 AM
Quoting El Barto
Yes faith/belief is not truth but merely something we hold to us as truth. Doesn't mean it is so.
I'd say unified but these are suggestions and feelings it should be, not deffinate. Who really knows sitting from our perspectives what it really is. We would need to shed our physical eyes to see the beyond.
Tomaska.....I hear you.........don't panic.
Tomaska.....I hear you.........don't panic.
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 10th, 2007, 11:45 AM
Quoting thomaska
Except I don't think Swaggart, Falwell, or Roberts represent mass world belief in their definition of God. To use them as an excuse not to search deeper spiritually would be a shame and equally as limiting to self as accepting their preaching as truth.
I'd rather not here anyone speak about god...its embarrassing enough as it is.
I can just imagine advanced civilizations light-years away, now receiving broadcasts from Jimmy Swaggart or Falwell, or Oral Roberts....bleh...
Its really surprising that they haven't come and demolished earth to make room for an intragalatic highway yet...
I can just imagine advanced civilizations light-years away, now receiving broadcasts from Jimmy Swaggart or Falwell, or Oral Roberts....bleh...
Its really surprising that they haven't come and demolished earth to make room for an intragalatic highway yet...
Mighty Intellect
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Location: Quebec
Location: Quebec
October 14th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Sal, this is a monologue taken from the group Tool , thurd eye its called and this sums up pretty much what i agree with.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
Sal, this is a monologue taken from the group Tool , thurd eye its called and this sums up pretty much what i agree with.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
Bright Spark
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October 14th, 2007, 09:19 PM
DocDred
If you want to read the Koran then go to http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
I found this on the digital library of the university of Michigan.
DocDred
If you want to read the Koran then go to http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html
I found this on the digital library of the university of Michigan.
Super Genius
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Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
October 15th, 2007, 08:27 AM
I am really into the whole energy thing. Think I posted about that around here somewhere. I don't think life is only a dream, but I do believe this life is only a tiny part of who and what we are.
And I haven't even had any acid...
Quoting El Barto
Ha, here's Tom with the weather... I like that.
Sal, this is a monologue taken from the group Tool , thurd eye its called and this sums up pretty much what i agree with.
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here's Tom with the weather."
I am really into the whole energy thing. Think I posted about that around here somewhere. I don't think life is only a dream, but I do believe this life is only a tiny part of who and what we are.
And I haven't even had any acid...
