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Polytheism
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Polytheism is belief in, or worship of, multiple gods or divinities. The word comes from the Greek words poly+theoi, literally "many Gods." Ancient religion was polytheistic, holding to a pantheon of traditional deities. The belief in many Gods does not necessarily preclude, but it sometimes includes, the belief in an all-powerful all-knowing supreme being, as the ruler and parent (often king and father) of Gods and mankind (henotheism).

In Polytheistic belief, Gods are conceived as complex personages of greater or lesser status, with individual skills, needs, desires and stories. The Gods are not always omnipotent or omniscient; rather, they are often portrayed as similar to humans in their personality traits, but with additional individual powers, abilities, knowledge or perceptions.

Philosphical perceptions of the Gods are different to the way they are portrayed in mythology. In philosophical traditions the Gods are seen as eternal, perfect at one with each other and collectively omnipotent. Neoplatonism the underlying philosophy of classical antiquity taught the existence of 'The One' the transcendent ineffable God and unifying principle of Polytheism. "The One is God": Plotinus 204-270 BCE

In the Polytheistic pantheon, the Gods have multiple epithets, each with its own significance in specific roles, and have dominion or authority over specified areas of life and the cosmos. Thus a God may be the God of music (Apollo) or herding, the God of a food (Ceres) or love (Aphrodite), have a particular role in the God-hierarchy (Zeus), or be the "patron God" of a geographical or cosmological phenomenon, or a region, town, stream or family, or liberation (Dionysos). In mythology, Gods have complex social arrangements. For example, they have friends, allies, spouses, lovers and enemies, they experience human emotions such as jealousy, whimsy or uncontrolled rage, may practise infidelity or be punished, and can be born or die, only to be reborn. However such representions of the Gods are seen by the philosophers as hiding deeper spiritual truths.




Contents [hide]
1 Mythology and the Gods
2 Overview
3 Ancient polytheism
4 Gods and divinity
5 The Indic Traditions
5.1 Hinduism
5.2 Buddhism
6 A purely polytheistic Hindu philosophy
7 See also
8 References
9 Further reading
10 External links



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Mythology and the Gods
In the Mediterranian world, Sallustius (4th century CE) categorised mythology into five types:

Theological
Physical
Psychological
Material
Mixed
The theological are those myths which use no bodily form but contemplate the very essence of the Gods: e.g., Kronos swallowing his children. Since divinity is intellectual, and all intellect returns into itself, this myth expresses in allegory the essence of divinity.

Myths may be regarded physically when they express the activities of the Gods in the world: e.g., people before now have regarded Kronos as time, and calling the divisions of time his sons say that the sons are swallowed by the father.

The psychological way is to regard (myths as allegorys of) the activities of the soul itself and or the soul's acts of thought.

The material and last is (to regard) material objects actually to be Gods, and so call: e.g., to call the earth Gaia, ocean Posidon, heat Typhon, or again, water Kronos, the fruits of the earth Adonis, and wine Dionysus.

The mixed kind of myth may be seen in many instances: for example they say that in a banquet of the Gods Discord threw down a golden apple; the Goddesses contended for it, and were sent by Zeus to Paris to be judged. Paris saw Aphrodite to be beautiful and gave her the apple. Here the banquet signifies the hypercosmic powers of the Gods; that is why they are all together. The golden apple is the world, which being formed out of opposites, is naturally said to be 'thrown by Discord'. The different Gods bestow different gifts upon the world, and are thus said to 'contend for the apple'. And the soul which lives according to sense - for that is what Paris is - not seeing the other powers in the world but only beauty, declares that the apple belongs to Aphrodite.

On the Gods and the Cosmos

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Overview
"Polytheism refers to the honouring of 'many deities', each of whom is experienced and acknowledged as an independent, individual personality, not as an aspect or archetype of something else. Polytheist belief systems have a number of deities or sacred beings. Some may have jurisdiction or governance over a large area, others may be associated with (e.g.) a particular river or town, or a particular family. Sacred beings may include spirits, wights, ancestors, 'small gods'. Often individuals within polytheistic cultures will form relationships with a small number of specific goddesses, gods, or other beings while acknowledging their kinship to other discrete entities who are important within the culture, cosmology, and landscape.

In polytheistic cultures, deities are experienced as complex personages. Many have particular skills or abilities but are not restricted to these. A goddess is unlikely to be, for instance, simply a 'goddess of grain' or a 'goddess of weaving', although she may have particular interest in these areas, just as a human musician is also a member of a family and a community, visiting shops and participating in political debates.

The pre-Christian culture of Europe, and indeed many cultures around the world, have been and in many cases remain polytheistic, and polytheism is reviving in popularity in the West, often accompanied by a return to old texts and recreation of the rituals and way of life they describe. Present-day polytheistic religions include revivalist Hellenic polytheism, some forms of Wicca, and Ásatrú. Often they will attempt to reconstruct or re-establish a specific pre-Christian belief system, by studying its history and archaeology, ancient writings (which may or may not be viewed as 'sacred texts'), and the cultures which embraced it, to recreate a living spirituality that works within today's world. Examples of ancient texts include the Odyssey, the Epic of Gilgamesh, or the Eddas - writings which make reference to deities and other non-human beings, and give insight into the worldviews of those who composed them.




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Ancient polytheism
Well-known polytheistic pantheons in history include the Sumerian gods, the Egyptian gods, the Ancient Greek religion, Norse Æsir and Vanir, the Yoruba Orisha, the Aztec gods, and many others. Today, most historical polytheistic religions are pejoratively referred to as "mythology", though the stories cultures tell about their gods should be distinguished from their cultus or religious practice. For instance deities portrayed in conflict in mythology would still be worshipped sometimes in the same temple side by side. Illustrating the distinction in the devotees mind between the myth and the reality. The theoretical Proto-Indo-European religion, from which perhaps the Greek, Roman, Vedic, German, Slavic and Persian may have descended was, it is speculated, an essentially naturalist polytheistic religion. Some deities from this religion, such as Dyeus and Mitra, were preserved in the daughter religions.

Few ancient religions, indeed, were not polytheistic. Those that weren't include possibly early Vedic Hinduism (which has been termed at the most henotheistic or inclusive monotheism with groundings of monistic, and polytheistic philosophy). Possibly some of the Mystery religions of the Greeks and Romans . The Abrahamic religions, dualistic Zoroastrianism and Mithraism, and the short-lived Atenism promulgated by Akhenaton in Egypt in the 1350s BC.

In many civilizations, pantheons tended to grow over time. Deities first worshipped as the patrons of cities or places came to be collected together as empires extended over larger territories. Conquests could lead to the subordination of the elder culture's pantheon to a newer one, as in the Greek Titanomachia, and possibly also the case of the Æsir and Vanir in the Norse mythos. Cultural exchange could lead to "the same" deity being renowned in two places under different names, as with the Greeks, Etruscans, and Romans, and also to the introduction of elements of a "foreign" religion into a local cult, as with Egyptian Osiris worship brought to ancient Greece.

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Gods and divinity
Hard polytheists believe that the gods are distinct and separate beings. Hard polytheists may believe in a unifying principle such as the One of the Platonists.

Soft polytheists, regard their multiplicity of gods as being manifestations of either common entities, or representing different aspects or facets of a single personal God, the latter also sometimes known as "inclusive monotheists", as are many modern neopagan groups and possibly Smarta Hinduism.

The Greek gods provide an example. The ancient Greeks believed that their gods were independent deities who weren't aspects of a great deity and did stand on their own. Pluralistic Soft polytheism means that the person practicing a polytheistic religion believes that their gods are aspects of another god or goddess. In the case of the Ancient Egyptians this comes in the form of triads or triple gods or goddesses. They believed that certain Gods were aspects of a great God. Amon was an aspect of Ra and was usually known as Amon-Ra. The triple gods Ptah-Sokar-Osiris to give an example shows that even though their Gods may have distinct personalities and traits, they are considered to be aspects of an another deity.

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The Indic Traditions
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Some forms of Mahayana Buddhism and Smarta Hinduism are regarded by some as polytheistic; however, this designation is the subject of much dispute in both Hinduism and in Buddhism. (Buddhism spread into lands which practiced polytheistic religions beforehand; India, where Hinduism has largely been practiced, was overtaken by staunchly monotheistic Muslims several centuries ago (see Islamic empires in India), and this, in addition to earlier competition by Jainism and Buddhism, may have influenced Hindu beliefs.)

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Hinduism
The system prevalent in Hinduism is defined by the Smartha philosophy; this theory allows for the veneration of numberless deities, but on the understanding that all of them are but manifestation of the ONE divine power. That ultimate power is termed Brahman or Atman, and is believed to have no specific form, name or attribute. This system common in Hinduism is often perceived as polytheistic; it is also a form of inclusive monotheism, where one God is perceived as having many forms. In contrast, a hard polytheist thinks that two gods are different, i.e., Zeus and Poseidon, for example. An inclusive monotheist or soft polytheist such as a Smarta, on the other hand, thinks that Vishnu and Shiva are different aspects of a common God. For example, the Smarta theologians, influenced by Advaita philosophy, have cited many references to support this view. In one example, they interpret verses in both the Shri Rudram, the most sacred mantra in Shaivism, and the Vishnu sahasranama, one of the most sacred prayers in Vaishnavism, to show this belief. By contrast, a Vaishnavite considers Vishnu as the only true God worthy of worship, and worship of other forms as subordinate or simply incorrect.

A Smartha, or follower of the Advaita philosophy, would have no problem worshiping every imaginable deity with equal veneration; he or she views these different deities as being manifestations of the same God. Other (somewhat peripheral) Hindu sects, such as Vaishnavism and Shaivism conform more closely to a Western understanding of what a monotheistic faith is. For instance, a Vaishnavite considers Vishnu as being the one and only true God, an attitude that resonates with that of the Abrahamic religions. However, the Smartha philosophy defines a large part of Hindu philosophy, and imparts to Indic spiritual and religious traditions their liberalism.

Though Hinduism as it is now practiced is essentially soft polytheistic/ pantheistic/ monistic /inclusive monotheistic, it is considered likely that this system evolved from the merging of two ancient polytheistic traditions, the Proto-Indo-European religion, and Dravidian religion.

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Buddhism
See also God in Buddhism and Nontheism in Buddhism

In Buddhism, there are beings who are seen as gods, Devas. But Devas in Buddhism are not considered as gods. Devas are not immortal, not morally perfect, not omniscient, rarely interacting with the human world, not creators or shapers of the world, are seen as beings with distinctive individuality just like humans, and will die. Devas, in generals, are beings who have had more positive karma in their past lives than humans. When they accumulate negative karma, they are reborn as either human or any of the other lower beings. Humans and other beings also have the opportunity to be reborn as a deva in their next rebirth, if they store many positive karma. Thus the thought that buddhism is seen as polytheistic should be understood more as not polytheistic.

However, different countries in which Buddhism had flourished may have polytheistic features, but generally they are mixed from part of that country's folk religion. For example, in Japan, Buddhist religious practice was mixed by some of the people in folk religion with Shinto, which worships kami, or nature spirits. Thus, there may be elements of worship or gods in some forms of Buddhism.

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A purely polytheistic Hindu philosophy
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According to the philosophy of Mīmāṃsā (one of the six Hindu philosophies), all the devas (the celestial spirits aka Gods) and devīs (Goddesses) are the sovereign rulers of the forces of nature and there is no one Supreme Īshvara (lit., the Supreme Lord) as their Lord. To do a desired action, the humans must please each or several of these devas by worshipping them with proper rituals. This kind of view could be regarded as purely polytheistic. Although the later Mīmāṃsakās retracted this view and accepted Īshvara, this view is still held today by a substantial populace of Hindus.

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SO I need to ask. For people who might be atheiest or under one god. What is the idea against many gods? Why is it bad, especially for people who might believe in the Abrahemic religions, why can't there be many gods.
 

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Her name is Freyja

As a battle-goddess, Freya rides a boar called Hildisvín the Battle-Swine. In the poem Hyndluljóð, we are told that in order to conceal Ottar, Freya transformed him into the guise of a boar. The boar has special associations within Norse Mythology, both relative to the notion of fertility and also as a protective talisman in war, probably because real boars can be quite fierce animals. Seventh century Swedish helmet plates depict warriors with large boars as their crests, and a boar-crested helmet has survived from Anglo-Saxon time and was retrieved from a tumulus at Benty Grange in Derbyshire. In Beowulf, it is said that a boar on the helmet was there to guard the life of the warrior wearing it.

Other sources show that Freya rode a chariot drawn by a pair of cats the size of lions.

Freyja rides her cat-driven chariot in this romantic painting by Nils Blommér.Freya chooses certain of the slain on the battlefield to come under her wing in the afterlife whilst Odin gets to choose others, according to Grímnismál:

The ninth hall is Folkvang, where bright Freyja
Decides where the warriors shall sit:
Some of the fallen belong to her,
And some belong to Odin.
The association of Freya with death is underlined in Egil's saga when his daughter, Thorgerda (Þorgerðr), threatens to commit suicide in the wake of her brother's death, saying: "I shall not eat until I sup with Freya".

Her palace was in Fólkvangr and her hall was Sessrúmnir, known as the "Rich-in-Seats".
 

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Re: RE: Polytheism

JonB2004 said:
I'm an atheist. There is no God(s).

I don't think there is an entity or entities of a god. But their are polytheistic religions like Asatru that have the identities as goals you set, as well as other religions that worship earth ideals. For example a snake, a snake is a real creature and if it is a god of a people then it is considered a god. :D
 

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I've always thought polytheism makes more sense than monotheism. Is there anything else in the universe except for a monotheist's god of which there is only one example to be found? Everything else comes in fairly large numbers: stars, planets, galaxies, people, trees, mice, elephants, shrimp, grass, flowers... uh, well, I'm sure you see my point. Given nature's general profligacy, it makes more sense on the face of it that there be many gods too, if they exist at all.

But atheism makes better sense than either, given the nature of the evidence that anything else might be correct. I'm not an atheist in JonB2004's sense though: I don't believe there's a god, he positively believes there isn't, a subtle distinction that caused a lot of fruitless discussion in another thread about whether atheism's a belief or not. I'd agree there doesn't seem to be a god in the vicinity, but maybe somewhere, in a galaxy far away <cue Star Wars theme> there's A Force...
 

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Its interesting but in this book I was reading this author named Mark Gaffney was talking about polytheistic elements in the book of Exodus. It looks at different scriptures of a certain race that was around that interacted with the Hebrews at the time and compared it to the original story of Exodus and they found many similarities. The other race(cant remember the name) was polytheistic. It seems that the stories were similar in the Exodus story but instead of showing the powers of the many gods they combined it into the power of one God, YHWH. Its interesting and it shows that polytheism at its highest sense is monotheism in this case. As for Hinduism, I am a Hindu and I quite frankly regard it as a monotheistic religion actually. Many of the polytheistic religions have their own interpretations of polytheism and how its used. Hinduism, somehow doesnt seem to define a proper polytheism, but more of a monotheism on a different level. It can get complicated but I can tell you this much Hinduism is a monotheistic religion because in this case, polytheism at its highest sense is monothiesm. However, I have the utmost respect for polytheism and other religions.
 

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Interesting thoughts vishliberal, I'm glad you chose to share them. It's always seemed significant to me that among the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity is, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me," which clearly recognizes the existence of other gods, it just degrades them to secondary status; Jehovah or Yahweh or whatever he wants us to call him wants to be the boss god. Think maybe Vishnu or Krishna might have something to say about that?
 

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I don't believe there's a god, he positively believes there isn't, a subtle distinction that caused a lot of fruitless discussion in another thread about whether atheism's a belief or not.

DS, I'm not trying to stir up that dead horse from the other thread, I just thought it might illustrate the origin of our supposed difference of opinion there: I use the bolded statement in your quote to describe my agnosticism and had therefore, in error I admit :wink: , imputed the stronger statement to you...
 

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Dexter Sinister said:
Interesting thoughts vishliberal, I'm glad you chose to share them. It's always seemed significant to me that among the Ten Commandments of Judaism and Christianity is, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me," which clearly recognizes the existence of other gods, it just degrades them to secondary status; Jehovah or Yahweh or whatever he wants us to call him wants to be the boss god. Think maybe Vishnu or Krishna might have something to say about that?

The ten commandments are interesting in general, and I have great respect for Judaism. I would associate that commandment with YHWH's possible reference to the egyptian gods in the Exodus story. Its interesting, but many religions have their reigonal geographic boundaries (in terms of the stories). The Abrahamic religions are more for the eastern while the Eastern religions had their reigonal boundaries in the east. What I mean is, YHWH was known around Israel and the countries surrounding, Jesus also being in the same area, while Krishna and Buddha in a totally different location in India. Mind you, I am solely basing this off religious scriptures, this is definately an interesting area for research. The torah and the bible have never acknowledged India and the "indian gods" as they have with the greek and even egyptian. It is only with this that I say that under the circumstances the Israelites faced, based on what happened in the Exodus story, that YHWH was referring to the Egyptian gods. However, YHWH's words are very vague with this. Now, as for your question, as I said before, I regard Hinduism to be monotheistic as well, while still having the utmost respect for polytheism. Hindus ultimately revere God called Bramhan, just as the Jewish regard YHWH. I have always pondered on this question however. Hindu's dont really regard anybody as a boss god though, but they beileve in many paths to one goal. Thus, in general, Hindus do respect other religions(including Judaism), as I do.

To build on what I was saying before, the whole idea of that commandment can also be viewed from another level which is an are of scholarly research today. The Hebrews had interacted with the Canaanites. The Canaanite religion was polytheistic, while the Hebrew religion was purely polytheistic. Yet, it seems from research of Canaanite myths, that these Canaanite myths had a profound influence on the book of Exodus. The only difference was, instead of having the two gods of Baal and El, there was one diety, known as YHWH. This is a controversial topic, but for more information you can read Frank Moore Cross's thesis. There are recovered Ugaritic texts that illustrate the Canaanite myths. So, polytheism was a big ideal in the time of this story and the Ten Commndments became a major ethical code for the Hebrews at this time. Their monotheism may have been partly based on polytheistic elements because of the Canaanite influence, but they wanted to practise distinct and strict monotheism. I think this is why this first commandment was important to the Hebrews at this time, because of all the polytheistic influences. Now, in my opinion, I think polytheism can purvey a religious truth on a different level, through the portrayal of myths and gods, just as monotheism can through YHWH for example. Thats just my opinion though.
 

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You appear to be much better informed about these things than I am, which of course is one of the reasons I come here, to find people who know about things I don't.

My memory may be fooling me here, I've read so much over the years that I'm never quite sure which of the ideas in my head are originally mine and which are ones I stole from somebody else, but I *think* this might be an original thought: in an area where there are rival tribes/nations/cultures/whatever, as in ancient Palestine with the Canaanites, Hebrews, Philistines, etc., the gods of one tend to become the devils of the other.

The name Baalzebub, for instance, which occurs in the Old Testament that way and as Beelzebub in the New Testament, where he's labelled the prince of devils, means Lord of the Flies. The name would be widely recognized in the nominally Christian West as meaning the devil these days. Baalzebub was the chief god of the Philistine city of Ekron (2 Kings 1:2), and the name may originally have been Baalzebul, which means Lord of the Temple. Maybe the Biblical writers just couldn't bring themselves to give what to them was an idol a name that properly belonged only to their god, so with a minor change in spelling turned it into a slur. Or Lord of the Flies may be the legitimate name, because it might mean he could bring or prevent insect plagues, an ugly and fearsome reality in the ancient world. I've no doubt the Philistines were at least as smart as we think we are in our modern age, and they'd certainly have noticed the correlation between flies and disease. A god who could control those things would be hot stuff in a world without modern medical science.

No, I don't keep all this stuff in my head. The credit for the analysis in the previous paragraph belongs to Isaac Asimov.