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Why fight: Islam, Christianity and Judaism is the same


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February 15th, 2006, 05:16 PM

Now as an Asatru or heathen I do not know why you Christian, Jewish and Muslim people fight. Why why do you people fight?

You were all born in the Middle East.

You are all Abrahamic Religions.

You all have one singular prophet, Moses for the Jews, Jesus for the Christians, and Muhammed for the Muslims.

You have the Torah, the Bible and the Koran, who all have bits and pieces of each others religion.

The rosary is Muslim, but was brought to Catholics.

So why do you fight, all you are are the same religion just cultural diffusion.

You took 90% of each other's religion and came with a few new ideas.
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February 15th, 2006, 05:19 PM

I have no idea why their seems to be some animosity between them.

As a pseudo-Christian, I have the utmost respect for Judaists and Muslims (not to mention persons of each and every other religion). I hold this respect not only because I would think it to be the responsible thing to do, in a religious capacity, but also the responsible thing to do in the capacity of a citizen of Canada.
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February 15th, 2006, 05:22 PM

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I have no idea why their seems to be some animosity between them.

As a pseudo-Christian, I have the utmost respect for Judaists and Muslims (not to mention persons of each and every other religion). I hold this respect not only because I would think it to be the responsible thing to do, in a religious capacity, but also the responsible thing to do in the capacity of a citizen of Canada.
That is what gets me. My geography teacher knows, and he is a world famous geographer, says that they are basically the same religion. So I have no idea why you guys fight.

And thanks Five, you even like Heathens, so it will make it a bit harder when I will have to sack your property like a good heathen.
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February 15th, 2006, 05:23 PM

actually they have the line of prophets. it is just a question of how many are accepted as prophets.

they kill each other because the abrahamic religions are built on a core of dominance and control, which with christianity was turned outward. the "dominion" theme rules, and since all want the "dominion"...

now lets say you have a brother and a neighbour. your hardly know your neighbour but you know your brother well. who will you fight most with? your brother. why? because you know each other well and share a lot. the same with the abrahamics. was jesus a prophet, or a god? did the man-idolatry of the christians require the god to send a final prophet to set the record straight? we can see how fighting can occur here.
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February 15th, 2006, 05:37 PM

Shia and Sunni's kill each other. Protestents and Catholics fought for ages in Ireland. All the monotheistic religions want the world following their version of the "one true way".
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February 15th, 2006, 07:06 PM

But they are the same.

They are Abrahamic religions, they all have one prophet. It is stupid.
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February 15th, 2006, 07:10 PM

no, they don't have one prophet. they have a line of prophets and they disagree on the status of one and whether another is or is not a prophet.

but you are right that it is stupid. that is what you get when you subscribe to absolutes.
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February 15th, 2006, 07:22 PM

Well they all have one main prophet.
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February 15th, 2006, 07:49 PM

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Now as an Asatru or heathen I do not know why you Christian, Jewish and Muslim people fight. Why why do you people fight?

You were all born in the Middle East.

You are all Abrahamic Religions.

You all have one singular prophet, Moses for the Jews, Jesus for the Christians, and Muhammed for the Muslims.

You have the Torah, the Bible and the Koran, who all have bits and pieces of each others religion.

The rosary is Muslim, but was brought to Catholics.

So why do you fight, all you are are the same religion just cultural diffusion.

You took 90% of each other's religion and came with a few new ideas.


Christian, jew and muslim extremist are the ones who make the others to fight, not the majority of those same religions.
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February 15th, 2006, 07:51 PM

Interesting that you would say that, aeon, while there are dozens of members in other threads on Canadian Content who are condemning each and every Muslim for the actions of a loud few.

We must, as you have just done, keep in mind that there are distinctions between standard and moderate members of faiths, and the extremist members. More to the point of the topic, I would agree with you entirely. Religion would be a far more practical thing, were extremists not to incite the kinds of hateful events and speeches that we have seen over the decades and centuries.
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February 15th, 2006, 08:17 PM

don't forget you get grapejuice from grapes, not watermelons.

If the religions did not have a base of dominance, then followers would not have such a weapon to wield.
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February 15th, 2006, 09:53 PM

I still would like Christianity to give me back Christman, Valentines Day and Halloween.

But back to the point, because all three religions are so alike, on a side note, veiling of women took place in 15th Christian society so it is unsure if Islam took it from Christians, how can we get them to cooperate because you guys are all the same, no matter if you are Jew, Muslim or Christian.
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February 15th, 2006, 10:37 PM

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Well they all have one main prophet.
nope for the Jews it is Moses + the messiah thats supposed to come very soon

for christians its obviously jesus christ who is also going to be showing up real soon(seriously i have an inside scoop)

and muslims follow the teachings of Mohammed and they've corroborated the jesus arrival at JFK story too.

there are some divergence in philosophy between the religions. one can argue that Christianity is more individual based (christ dying for my sins etc.) whereas judaism and Islam are more community based.

the conflict really arises from the hypocrits who dont follow their own religion but like pushing other ppl around. Examples are all over history including most Popes, several Ottoman Caliphs, several Mogul maharajahs, a multitude of hindu fanatics and some zionists.
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February 15th, 2006, 11:13 PM

The conflict arises because religion is a motivating factor for leaders for centuries (All the way up to the 20th). In those days many fought for control of land and resources, and they had to motivate the masses into armed conflict, so religion was used or created to push onto the masses that their lord was sent from God and that he/she was all wise and powerful and he/she commanded you to go invade or defend somewhere, for this is God’s land.

This led to people believing that their leaders were truly sent by God and that all those who opposed them were heathens to be destroyed or converted. After centuries of these struggles these ethnic hatreds were ingrained into the social psyche of many cultures and it comes to the surface in some who take up holy wars or jihads, or kill in the name of their God.

Why in this day and age does violent conflict over religion happen? Some believe that the disadvantaged use it as an excuse to blame others for their problems rather then looking at them directly. Some still truly believe in those tenants, and some I believe are just too ignorant to believe otherwise.
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February 16th, 2006, 08:11 AM

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nope for the Jews it is Moses + the messiah thats supposed to come very soon

for christians its obviously jesus christ who is also going to be showing up real soon(seriously i have an inside scoop)

and muslims follow the teachings of Mohammed and they've corroborated the jesus arrival at JFK story too.

there are some divergence in philosophy between the religions. one can argue that Christianity is more individual based (christ dying for my sins etc.) whereas judaism and Islam are more community based.

the conflict really arises from the hypocrits who dont follow their own religion but like pushing other ppl around. Examples are all over history including most Popes, several Ottoman Caliphs, several Mogul maharajahs, a multitude of hindu fanatics and some zionists
One main prophet, different names. So, all three have a few differences that is because they may have thought of something better or encorporated another 'pagan' religion into theirs. But about 90% is the same.
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February 16th, 2006, 08:18 AM

Jersay, there are major differences between the three religions.

An example....some Christians believe that modern day Jewish people, are really just modern day Pharisees.
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February 16th, 2006, 08:30 AM

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Jersay, there are major differences between the three religions.

An example....some Christians believe that modern day Jewish people, are really just modern day Pharisees.
No there isn't. The majority of the religions are the same. It is just what looks difference comes out to the forefront then what is the same.
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February 16th, 2006, 08:47 AM

I think you would have to have a better understanding of these two religions to really appreciate what I'm saying.
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