Russia takes Control of World Gas haha


darkbeaver
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Central Asia
Jul 30, 2008

Russia takes control of Turkmen (world?) gas
By M K Bhadrakumar

From the details coming out of Ashgabat in Turkmenistan and Moscow over the weekend, it is apparent that the great game over Caspian energy has taken a dramatic turn. In the geopolitics of energy security, nothing like this has happened before. The United States has suffered a huge defeat in the race for Caspian gas. The question now is how much longer Washington could afford to keep Iran out of the energy market.

Gazprom, Russia's energy leviathan, signed two major agreements in Ashgabat on Friday outlining a new scheme for purchase of Turkmen gas. The first one elaborates the price formation principles that will be guiding the Russian gas purchase from Turkmenistan during the next 20-year period. The second--
 
Avro
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So what.
 
Risus
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I doubt this will affect anything.
 
Zzarchov
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Russia being an imperial power securing resources around the world, *Gasp!* how completely expected!
 
Praxius
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Does explain a motive why the US is being so hard ass on Iran about their desire for energy...... they're losing money and bad, nobody wants or needs them anymore.... supply and demand through a corrupt deal has hit the wall. Now they're going through panic and trying to mark Iran as an axis of evil trying to nuke us all, when they've been only doing what their contract in which they signed allows them to do.

Russia with the Gas? Sure, sounds like a good idea.... I need a change from corrupt powers, and there's always a two year span of decent times before the new corrupt power starts to slip......
 
Zzarchov
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Russia never stopped being a corrupt imperialist power. They just ran into some financial troubles. They do that every now and then.
 
darkbeaver
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Times are changeing faster than we can appreciate, the old war spring is being wound really tight this time. Soon the capitalist pig-dogs and the banking scum will unleash thier final solution, this is the last chance for them ,socialism is on the march, we will finally be liberated.
 
Stretch
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

Russia never stopped being a corrupt imperialist power. They just ran into some financial troubles. They do that every now and then.

much like the states.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by StretchView Post

much like the states.


So....what has changed?
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by StretchView Post

much like the states.

Oh now Stretch don't be botherin Mr Zzarchov with the inconvienient facts.
 
Zzarchov
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How is that an inconvenient fact? The US has had several very well document imperial drives, against the Indigineous tribes (to "win" the west), against Mexico, Spain, its half hearted attempt at Africa (Liberia), its involvement in splitting up China.

But apparently you can't believe that actual Empires, might have engaged in Imperial practices. Nor that when that empire has in turn been run by strongmen who have openly enslaved other nations (and still do move into their neighbours territory), and pass such great laws as "Immigrants aren't allowed to work where people can see them" might be bad people.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Times are changeing faster than we can appreciate, the old war spring is being wound really tight this time. Soon the capitalist pig-dogs and the banking scum will unleash thier final solution, this is the last chance for them ,socialism is on the march, we will finally be liberated.

I enjoy reading your posts.
 
L Gilbert
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I kinda like it when other outfits thumb their noses at the big American oil companies. The US seems to have an unwritten policy that they should be able to share everyone else's goodies for cheap and charge premium prices for their own goods. Also to help everyone else use up their resources and keep their own for themselves. Above all, the love of gold is what drives them, even at their own expense sometimes. It's the bottom line. The ends justify the means. Like a selfish little kid in a sandbox. And it seems as if it takes very seriously that "in God We Trust" being printed or stamped on their money is all they need to step on other peoples and still be on the high moral ground.
Sorry for the rant. lol I am not much of a nationalist and more of a humanist. And I don't think any nation is any better than another in every aspect. Much like I don't think any human is any better than any other in every aspect.
Anyway, good for Russia.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

I kinda like it when other outfits thumb their noses at the big American oil companies. The US seems to have an unwritten policy that they should be able to share everyone else's goodies for cheap and charge premium prices for their own goods. Also to help everyone else use up their resources and keep their own for themselves. Above all, the love of gold is what drives them, even at their own expense sometimes. It's the bottom line. The ends justify the means. Like a selfish little kid in a sandbox. And it seems as if it takes very seriously that "in God We Trust" being printed or stamped on their money is all they need to step on other peoples and still be on the high moral ground.
Sorry for the rant. lol I am not much of a nationalist and more of a humanist. And I don't think any nation is any better than another in every aspect. Much like I don't think any human is any better than any other in every aspect.
Anyway, good for Russia.

Stay tuned Cold War II.
 
L Gilbert
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Maybe. That'd give the two another chance to show the rest of us how foolish they can be.
 
darkbeaver
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U.S. is on brink of survival crisis, according to Moscow


--, July 29, 2008
Inferfax:

MOSCOW. July 29 (Interfax) - Moscow thinks that the United States could face a serious domestic crisis in the near future.
"The U.S. is on the brink of a mass crisis of surviving," a source with the Russian Foreign Ministry told journalists on Tuesday.
"The U.S. is on the track of drastic and painful changes," he said. "At first, they have to learn to live within their means," the diplomat added. Speaking about relations between Moscow and Washington, the source said that less interdependency in Russian-U.S. relations would be useful.
"We can in the future reach the moment when we will be able to stop discussing only the issues the U.S. side is interested in," he said.
"We are not enemies with the U.S., and unfortunately we are still not friends, but we are depending on each other less and less," the diplomat said.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

How is that an inconvenient fact? The US has had several very well document imperial drives, against the Indigineous tribes (to "win" the west), against Mexico, Spain, its half hearted attempt at Africa (Liberia), its involvement in splitting up China.

But apparently you can't believe that actual Empires, might have engaged in Imperial practices. Nor that when that empire has in turn been run by strongmen who have openly enslaved other nations (and still do move into their neighbours territory), and pass such great laws as "Immigrants aren't allowed to work where people can see them" might be bad people.

What about the Zionist empire?
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Times are changeing faster than we can appreciate, the old war spring is being wound really tight this time. Soon the capitalist pig-dogs and the banking scum will unleash thier final solution, this is the last chance for them ,socialism is on the march, we will finally be liberated.


You know Russia is Capitalist right? Its not socialist, its very ANTI Socialist. Its a right wing nationalist government with their own legion of "banking scum" and "capitalist pig dogs" who run the place and whom are in turn supported.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

I enjoy reading your posts.

You are a wonderful person Walter, perhaps we could have you cast in bronze and erected somewhere convienient for pigeons to **** on your head. it's a joke man put that knife down!
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

What about the Zionist empire?

I think you need to learn the term empire, it doesn't mean what you think it means im guessing.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

I think you need to learn the term empire, it doesn't mean what you think it means im guessing.

While I often employ the technique of flexible meaning, most specimins I'v met on this planet would have no hesitation in acknowledgeing the fact of the Zionist empire. Excepting you of course who likes to keep to the purest rendition of the current dictionary meaning in vogue. This of course is stupid because everybody knows what the Zionist Empire is and what will happen to it soon. It means whatever I say it means and don't you presume to forget that or I'll make boils and horrific odour occur in your underarms.
 
L Gilbert
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Yeah, greed is spawned only by the zionist empire. lmao
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

While I often employ the technique of flexible meaning, most specimins I'v met on this planet would have no hesitation in acknowledgeing the fact of the Zionist empire. Excepting you of course who likes to keep to the purest rendition of the current dictionary meaning in vogue. This of course is stupid because everybody knows what the Zionist Empire is and what will happen to it soon. It means whatever I say it means and don't you presume to forget that or I'll make boils and horrific odour occur in your underarms.


No, "Everyone" does not believe the way you do.

If they did, then "everyone" wouldn't be keeping Israel, the tiny chunk of land in the middle east which is accused of "occupying" a chunk of International land (Jerusalem), which was Jewish Majority and voted to join Israel after it was occupied (but never called that) by Jordan for almost 20 years.

Oh it had some Imperial goals no doubt, annexing land and whatnot. But its a piss poor example of an Empire.

It gave back OIL FIELDS to make peace? What kind of Empire does that? Russia never gave back Siberia.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

You know Russia is Capitalist right? Its not socialist, its very ANTI Socialist. Its a right wing nationalist government with their own legion of "banking scum" and "capitalist pig dogs" who run the place and whom are in turn supported.

Yes I think someone forgot to update DarkBeaver on the type of government Russia now is. They are no longer communist or socialist but rather a Right Wing Nationalist government. He still thinks they carry "red books" around.

Sorry DB...the Ruskies don't march to that drum any longer.
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Times are changeing faster than we can appreciate, the old war spring is being wound really tight this time. Soon the capitalist pig-dogs and the banking scum will unleash thier final solution, this is the last chance for them ,socialism is on the march, we will finally be liberated.


Click the link to listen to yourself comrad.

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Perhaps you would like to usher in the days of Uncle Joe again or create a failed commie state because that's what they are .....failed.

Get a job for crying out loud and stop envying other peoples success.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

No, "Everyone" does not believe the way you do.

If they did, then "everyone" wouldn't be keeping Israel, the tiny chunk of land in the middle east which is accused of "occupying" a chunk of International land (Jerusalem), which was Jewish Majority and voted to join Israel after it was occupied (but never called that) by Jordan for almost 20 years.

Oh it had some Imperial goals no doubt, annexing land and whatnot. But its a piss poor example of an Empire.

It gave back OIL FIELDS to make peace? What kind of Empire does that? Russia never gave back Siberia.

Everyone isn't keeping Israel, only those with Mossad dossiers contribute anything. It's interesting to speculate wheather or not you believe the crap you post or if your just following orders. It never gives anything to anybody, it's a ****hole country with a very limited future.
The most dangerous empire of all is the Zionist Empire. You are a piss poor example of an an an apple.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Click the link to listen to yourself comrad.

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Perhaps you would like to usher in the days of Uncle Joe again or create a failed commie state because that's what they are .....failed.

Get a job for crying out loud and stop envying other peoples success.

What success are you talking about halfwit, the whole of the capitalist contraption is in freefall? I hope you got all your money in a nice safe bank Avro.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Yes I think someone forgot to update DarkBeaver on the type of government Russia now is. They are no longer communist or socialist but rather a Right Wing Nationalist government. He still thinks they carry "red books" around.

Sorry DB...the Ruskies don't march to that drum any longer.

Why should I listen to someone who dosen't even know what kind of government he has himself.
Most corrupt on the planet Smack, wall to wall fascists Smack, that's where you live boy don't worry about Russia you just worry about staying outta one o them recreation camps you paid for.
 
Avro
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What success are you talking about halfwit, the whole of the capitalist contraption is in freefall? I hope you got all your money in a nice safe bank Avro.

I'm wealthy today and I will be wealthy tommorrow and so will millions more westerners as long as they aren't comie pinkos like you.

Nothing wrong with being rewarded for hard work beave you should try it sometime instead of trying to steal my money.

If you want to live in a poverty stricken slum with no futrue then why don't you move to Castor's Cuba or Lil Kims' North Korea?
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Everyone isn't keeping Israel, only those with Mossad dossiers contribute anything. It's interesting to speculate wheather or not you believe the crap you post or if your just following orders. It never gives anything to anybody, it's a ****hole country with a very limited future.
The most dangerous empire of all is the Zionist Empire. You are a piss poor example of an an an apple.

Stalin killed millions of his own people, nice roll model comrad.
 

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