Bright Spark
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September 24th, 2006, 05:14 PM
oh, and children are only cheering because their parents only know how to cook worth a crap anyways. this kinda stuff can be made really good if you take the time to do a bit more than busting it out of the freezer and heating it up in butter or margarine.
oh, and children are only cheering because their parents only know how to cook worth a crap anyways. this kinda stuff can be made really good if you take the time to do a bit more than busting it out of the freezer and heating it up in butter or margarine.
Bright Spark
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September 24th, 2006, 07:57 PM
I should have been a little more precise.
Obviously, you will not use hand soaps or detergents, which often contain fragrance and other crap. There are specialty soaps and surfactants for delicate stuff like spinach and strawberries. Other things don't really need them, just a scrubbing or a quick rinse is enough.
That said, good call on the lemon and vinegar. I use that stuff to do all sorts of cleaning around my house, and I certainly use them on produce as well. You do not need to worry so much about any residue that is left behind (not that I worry at all), since both vinegar and lemon are completely fine for consumption even in appreciable quantities.
I should have been a little more precise.
Obviously, you will not use hand soaps or detergents, which often contain fragrance and other crap. There are specialty soaps and surfactants for delicate stuff like spinach and strawberries. Other things don't really need them, just a scrubbing or a quick rinse is enough.
That said, good call on the lemon and vinegar. I use that stuff to do all sorts of cleaning around my house, and I certainly use them on produce as well. You do not need to worry so much about any residue that is left behind (not that I worry at all), since both vinegar and lemon are completely fine for consumption even in appreciable quantities.
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September 25th, 2006, 06:02 AM
I like spinach. But did u know the whole thing about it being healthy was a math cock-up?
It was thought for a long time that spinach held enormous quantities of iron and so children were strongly encouraged to eat it, hence the idea behind popeye.
Problem was the experiment which showed such high content of iron was later discovered to be unrepeatable, and it turned out that it was too high by a factor of ten. Spinach DOES have plenty of iron, but no more than for instance broccoli or some other green veg.
I like spinach. But did u know the whole thing about it being healthy was a math cock-up?
It was thought for a long time that spinach held enormous quantities of iron and so children were strongly encouraged to eat it, hence the idea behind popeye.
Problem was the experiment which showed such high content of iron was later discovered to be unrepeatable, and it turned out that it was too high by a factor of ten. Spinach DOES have plenty of iron, but no more than for instance broccoli or some other green veg.
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September 25th, 2006, 06:14 AM
Also it shows complete lack of understanding of spread of disease. Workers would be very unlikely to infect so many bags at this level. Investigations are looking at the water used to irrigate the fields as the source of the problem. Very often it is nearby cattle who are infected and whose poop is infecting the nearby ground water or water source. A similar mode of infecting the water supply was determined in Walkerton.
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This is not just wrong. It is blatant racism that should be banned. Quoting
Wrong...just wrong....(
The Mexican workers who pick all the spinach obviously didn't take care in their personal hygene while handling it. Just another good reason to seal the borders.
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Also it shows complete lack of understanding of spread of disease. Workers would be very unlikely to infect so many bags at this level. Investigations are looking at the water used to irrigate the fields as the source of the problem. Very often it is nearby cattle who are infected and whose poop is infecting the nearby ground water or water source. A similar mode of infecting the water supply was determined in Walkerton.
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September 25th, 2006, 08:47 AM
irony? har har! teeeheeheehehee
irony? har har! teeeheeheehehee
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September 25th, 2006, 04:43 PM
OHHHHHHH......
I see, Missile, in your IRONIC witicism, you meant to say that it was certainly NOT any Mexican worker picking the spinach who contaminated it because of course they all wash their hands so carefully, but it might be you who infects your own family with Ecoli, Salmonella or Shigellae by not washing your own hands after a pee pee........
My apologies for confusing your irony with bigoted slander.....
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Irony: applying to a kind of humour or way of expressing wit , by deliberately saying and emphasizing the opposite of what one means, depending on tone of voice or manner of writing to express the true meaning.
I won't bother to try to explain irony to some of you..in light of this serious topic of spinach, but get a life,eh?
OHHHHHHH......
I see, Missile, in your IRONIC witicism, you meant to say that it was certainly NOT any Mexican worker picking the spinach who contaminated it because of course they all wash their hands so carefully, but it might be you who infects your own family with Ecoli, Salmonella or Shigellae by not washing your own hands after a pee pee........
My apologies for confusing your irony with bigoted slander.....
Bright Spark
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September 26th, 2006, 08:03 AM
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Well it still is quite healthy, regardless of that point you make. I get far more than enough iron in my diet anyways, as do most other Canadians and Americans, I'd imagine.
I like spinach. But did u know the whole thing about it being healthy was a math cock-up?
It was thought for a long time that spinach held enormous quantities of iron and so children were strongly encouraged to eat it, hence the idea behind popeye.
Problem was the experiment which showed such high content of iron was later discovered to be unrepeatable, and it turned out that it was too high by a factor of ten. Spinach DOES have plenty of iron, but no more than for instance broccoli or some other green veg.
It was thought for a long time that spinach held enormous quantities of iron and so children were strongly encouraged to eat it, hence the idea behind popeye.
Problem was the experiment which showed such high content of iron was later discovered to be unrepeatable, and it turned out that it was too high by a factor of ten. Spinach DOES have plenty of iron, but no more than for instance broccoli or some other green veg.
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September 26th, 2006, 08:27 AM
Re Mexican laborers/crops/hygiene issues
Most large farms in California have facilites for the workers to attend to their personal hygiene and nature calls matters.
Porta-potties, sinks, and pesticide rescue stations are mandatory for any large farming and packing food producers.
The type of contamination occurring in farm lands is usually contributed by small wild animals and their "calling cards", bird droppings and poor water runoff containing pesticides.
The farm laborers (from many countries as well as Mexico) are not the issue - farm fields being exposed to the elements of other manmade contaminants and wildlife are.
Some farms adjacent to dairies (either farm factories or grazing animals) may have additional waste runoff - but there are mitigations put into place to keep them from getting into the ground water which irrigates food crops.
Finally when the produce is prepared it is done in sheds and buildings which have again another stage of cleaning, washing, trimming, disposal of rotted product, etc.
For the market to be so free of contaminants on such a huge basis of crop gathering and preparing is pretty far advanced - and the home food preparer can go one step farther - by cleaning it yet again before use.
Re Mexican laborers/crops/hygiene issues
Most large farms in California have facilites for the workers to attend to their personal hygiene and nature calls matters.
Porta-potties, sinks, and pesticide rescue stations are mandatory for any large farming and packing food producers.
The type of contamination occurring in farm lands is usually contributed by small wild animals and their "calling cards", bird droppings and poor water runoff containing pesticides.
The farm laborers (from many countries as well as Mexico) are not the issue - farm fields being exposed to the elements of other manmade contaminants and wildlife are.
Some farms adjacent to dairies (either farm factories or grazing animals) may have additional waste runoff - but there are mitigations put into place to keep them from getting into the ground water which irrigates food crops.
Finally when the produce is prepared it is done in sheds and buildings which have again another stage of cleaning, washing, trimming, disposal of rotted product, etc.
For the market to be so free of contaminants on such a huge basis of crop gathering and preparing is pretty far advanced - and the home food preparer can go one step farther - by cleaning it yet again before use.
they say they have salmonella is that true or what.please reply Thank you.popcorn
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November 7th, 2006, 05:29 PM
From popcorn I alway's love this comic
Quoting gopher 
Popeye was my favorite cartoon -- I can still remember his song:
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm strong to duh finich
Cause I eats me spinach
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm one tough bazookah
Dat hates all palookas
Wot ain't on dug up + square
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em
And always outroughs 'em
And none of dem gets nowhere
If anyone darsus to risk me fisk
It's whomp and it's ban
Unndertsand?
So keep good behavior
It's you one life savior
With Popeye duh sailor man ...
Popeye was my favorite cartoon -- I can still remember his song:
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm strong to duh finich
Cause I eats me spinach
I'm Popeye duh sailor man
I'm one tough bazookah
Dat hates all palookas
Wot ain't on dug up + square
I biffs 'em and buffs 'em
And always outroughs 'em
And none of dem gets nowhere
If anyone darsus to risk me fisk
It's whomp and it's ban
Unndertsand?
So keep good behavior
It's you one life savior
With Popeye duh sailor man ...
From popcorn I alway's love this comic
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Location: Ottawa Canada
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November 7th, 2006, 05:35 PM
as in salads,that was very good with a good salad dressing Yummy Yummy popcorn
Quoting missile
It's so true missile the children must be quite happy,I never had a chance to eat spinish,when I was little.but i'm glad now but it's true that I love to eat it fresh
I bet children all over North America are cheering now that this odious veggie has been declared a health hazard Even I, as a child, was forced to eat some of it {YUCK!} My hope is that soon brussel sprouts will also be found to have disastrous effects on our health and that bacon will be touted as the ultimate health food.
Even I, as a child, was forced to eat some of it {YUCK!} My hope is that soon brussel sprouts will also be found to have disastrous effects on our health and that bacon will be touted as the ultimate health food.
as in salads,that was very good with a good salad dressing Yummy Yummy popcorn
