Lights out for incandescent light bulbs starts Jan.1

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Lights out for incandescent light bulbs starts Jan.1
Amanda Gaudet, QMI Agency
First posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 01:57 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 03:38 PM EST
Turn em off, Canada. Starting in 2014, you'll have a hard time replacing your incandescent light bulbs, as new government regulations kick in.
In an attempt to make the country more energy efficient in the New Year, the federal government is phasing out 75- and 100-watt incandescent bulbs starting Jan. 1.
Retailers will be allowed to sell off any remaining stock they have on their shelves, but after Wednesday manufactures can no longer supply the bulbs to the Canadian market.
"Right now it's just the two sizes of bulbs that they're getting rid of," an employee at a St. Jacobs, Ont., Home Hardware told QMI Agency. "We have them on a display skid in the middle aisle of the store ... Retailers are allowed to see them until there is no more (in stock). We will not get another supply."
By the end of December 2014 Canadian regulations will eliminate the production of 40-watt and 60-watt bulbs as well, forcing people to purchase the more expensive and energy-friendly LED or compact fluorescent bulbs.
The federal ban has the rest of Canada joining British Columbia, whose provincial government phased out 75- and 100-watt incandescent bulbs in early 2011. The ban also comes on the heels of the United State, where the bulbs started coming off shelves a year ago. For Americans, Jan. 1 marks the end of production for 60- and 40-watt incandescent lights.
Similar efforts are underway or completed across Europe and several other areas of the industrialized world.
Lights out for incandescent light bulbs starts Jan.1 | Canada | News | Toronto Sun
I don't like cfls. they don't last long, they are fragile, they generate heat, they are poisonous, etc. :(
 

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"""I don't like cfls. they don't last long, they are fragile, they generate heat, they are poisonous, etc"""


To be fair, the same might be said about incandescents.


I like the cfls. Have found they last a long time and are quite bright enough.


That being said, they need to be ventilated a lot more than incans. (new word) as they do generate more heat.


The price needs to come down, and quality needs to come up.


Don't eat them.
 

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Bloody gubmint taking away my choice for no good reason.
 

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At -35c cfls take too long to come to full brightness.
When I replaced all the bulbs in the house years ago, I kept all the old ones just for the back porch light, and the front door light, and the cold room.
 

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CFL bulbs don't generate very much heat at all. Incandescent bulbs can give you a second degree burn.
I think if you guys have CFL bulbs that are producing that much heat you must have defective lights as, I just checked as I have both on right now, my CFL bulbs are just warm and I can't touch my incandescent.
Too bad about the mercury in the CFL though. I think LED bulbs will get cheaper eventually.
I'm going to Crappy Tire tomorrow to get more 40 watt incandescent as we prefer them in our bedside lamps.
 

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I'm still mad that the gol-dang gummint has outlawed whale oil for my whale-oil lamps. You snotty kids with your "electricity" and "light bulbs" are cruising for a bruising. Just you wait until the power grid crashes. Y'all gonna be in the dark, and I'm gonna be laughing at you by the warm, mellow light of my whale-oil lamps!
 

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I'm still mad that the gol-dang gummint has outlawed whale oil for my whale-oil lamps. You snotty kids with your "electricity" and "light bulbs" are cruising for a bruising. Just you wait until the power grid crashes. Y'all gonna be in the dark, and I'm gonna be laughing at you by the warm, mellow light of my whale-oil lamps!
Kerosene burns cleaner.
 

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Kerosene burns cleaner.
Figures a socialist like you would try to infringe on my freedom of choice.

I said whale oil, boy. I meant whale oil.

LED lightbulbs burn cleaner than incandescents ("cleaner" in the sense of light output for electricity input). Didn't stop you complaining.
 

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5 reasons why incandescent light bulbs will be missed
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First posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 09:00 AM EST | Updated: Thursday, January 02, 2014 11:29 AM EST
If you enjoy the warm glow of an incandescent light bulb, you'd better stock up now.

The federal government is phasing out 75- and 100- watt incandescent bulbs starting Jan. 1, but retailers are allowed to sell off what they have left. By the end of the year, 40- and 60- watt bulbs will be unavailable too.

Admittedly, an affinity for traditional light bulbs is not totally rational when you look at the facts. Incandescents are worse for the environment than those newfangled swirly fluorescent ones and LEDs.

Compact fluorescents use 75% less electricity and last up to 10 times as long, according to Toronto Hydro. The underdog incandescent does have its advantages, though.

Here's five reasons why we'll miss 'em.
5 reasons why incandescent light bulbs will be missed | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

Tories must reverse bulb ban

By Brian Lilley ,Parliamentary Bureau
First posted: Thursday, January 02, 2014 07:39 PM EST | Updated: Thursday, January 02, 2014 07:47 PM EST
One of the biggest mistakes a politician or political party can make is thinking that by pleasing their enemies they will turn them into friends. It simply doesn’t work.
Enemies are enemies and quite often by trying to cozy up to people who hate you and will never vote for you, the end result is you will alienate your core supporters.
Which brings me to the Conservative government’s decision to follow through on their promised light bulb ban.
The one that nobody asked for.
As of Jan. 1, the 75- and 100-watt incandescent light bulbs are no more. What is left on store shelves is all that there is.
As of next Jan. 1, the same will happen to the 40- and 60-watt incandescent light bulbs. Consumers will be left with the much more expensive halogen, LED or the most common replacement — the toxic compact fluorescent bulbs.
The promise to ban the bulbs was made in 2007 with the claim the government was moving to address climate change. The Conservatives had hoped to soften their image by pleasing green groups that were attacking them relentlessly.
It didn’t work.
The green groups continue to attack the government relentlessly and will do so even if every single one of their demands is met. They simply want Harper out.
So politically, the Conservatives get no benefit from making this move.
The green activists who would normally applaud any move on climate change deride the light bulb ban as not doing anything for the environment.
And base Conservative voters are annoyed at the government telling them how to light their homes.
Pierre Trudeau famously said the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation, but Stephen Harper’s Conservatives have decided to set the mood lighting in our boudoirs.
Not all Conservatives, though.
More than one MP has told me this is an issue that has driven plenty of phone calls and e-mails to their offices from Canadians upset at the light bulb ban.
Now, one Conservative backbencher is stepping up to do something about it.
Cheryl Gallant, the longtime MP for Renfrew-Nippising- Pembroke, has launched a campaign and petition drive to convince her own government to turn things around.
Contact politicians In mid-December, after hearing from yet another upset constituent, Gallant launched stopthelightbulbban.ca. The website aims to use social media to let more Canadians know about the ban and allows them to contact the politicians in charge of the file — Natural Resources Minister Joe Oliver, Environment Minister Leona Aglukkaq and Health Minister Rona Ambrose.
Hopefully these ministers will listen to Canadians across the country who reject the idea that a totally safe product, such as the incandescent light bulb, should be regulated out of existence for no good reason.
Not only are the replacements extremely costly, the most common replacement, the CFL bulbs, contain mercury and have elaborate requirements for clean-up and disposal.
The bulbs cannot be thrown in the trash and if one happens to break, you need to evacuate the room, let it air for 15 minutes and then clean it up without using a vacuum or broom, both of which will spread mercury through your house.
The Conservatives have gained nothing from the ban, but as they look to the 2015 election they could gain plenty by admitting they made a mistake and reversing course. That move would put them offside the green activist, but put them squarely on the side of average, hardworking, middle-class Canadians.
Tories must reverse bulb ban | Columnists | Opinion | Toronto Sun
 

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Incandescent light bulbs are dimming

By Ricky Leong ,Calgary Sun
First posted: Friday, January 03, 2014 05:41 PM EST
TORONTO - The common light bulb has fallen victim to government requirements for better energy efficiency. It was 135 years old.
The slow death of the most common types of incandescent light (100, 75, 60 and 40 watts) began in Canada on Jan. 1, with the manufacturing phase-out of 100- and 75-watt bulbs.
By the end of the year, Canadian regulations will eliminate the production of lower-wattage bulbs entirely.
The light bulb’s death is happening more quickly in the U.S., where Jan. 1 marked the end of 60- and 40-watt bulbs.
Similar efforts are underway or completed across Europe plus many parts of the industrializing world.
Although Thomas Edison is widely credited with having invented the first practical light bulb in October, 1878, less efficient (and less useful) variants of electric light made their appearance as early as 1802.
Edison’s true genius was creating a light bulb that could be mass-produced and mass-marketed.
Records from the late 1870s show parallel patent applications for different kinds of electrified filament enclosed in a vacuum. Indeed, having failed to commercialize their idea for electric light, a duo from Toronto sold the patent for their light bulb variant to Edison in 1879.
By 1880, after a bit more fiddling and a few more patents, the Edison Electric Light Company began mass-producing and selling incandescent light bulbs that used a vacuum-encased carbon filament as the light source.
While production materials would change in its early years — General Electric introduced tungsten filaments in 1906, for example — the light bulb hasn’t changed much in its many years of service. Its simplicity would eventually be its downfall.
Although tungsten filaments in traditional bulbs glow with a pleasing colour, light only accounts for about 10% of the energy it uses. The rest turns into heat.
This flaw was exploited by cold-weather cities when mechanically switched traffic lights ruled the day.
Inside each control box was an incandescent light bulb to keep the switching mechanism warm.
Defenders of the tungsten light bulb argue the same effect happens in our homes, with incandescent lamps helping to offset (albeit slightly) the need for furnace or electric heat.
The simplicity of the Edison bulb also meant it was dirt cheap to produce and to buy.
Alternatives to the common light bulb last much longer and use less energy to produce an equivalent amount of light but they have a higher unit cost.
There’ve also been lingering concerns about compact fluorescent light bulbs, the main replacement option for the traditional light bulb.
There are environmental issues surrounding the disposal of CFL bulbs.
Whereas tungsten lamps can be thrown in the trash when they blow, compact fluorescent lamps need to be taken to dangerous disposal sites.
If you happen to break a CFL bulb, there are preventive measures to be taken to avoid contamination during cleanup from the mercury vapor it contains.
On the simplest level, many people don’t like the light CFLs produce.
In response, manufacturers now offer bulbs that give off light approximating that of tungsten lamps.
The common incandescent light bulb is survived by the halogen light bulb, a slightly more energy-efficient variant of incandescent light.
Very-low-wattage and decorative varieties of tungsten light will also continue to be made and sold.
But for all intents and purposes, across the industrialized world, the light bulb is dead.
Incandescent light bulbs are dimming | Home | Toronto Sun
 

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Wise advice for most anything made with glass.


Glass salad, tossed in with some oregano, can be delicious, but hard on the intestines. (My smilies are broke)

I'm still mad that the gol-dang gummint has outlawed whale oil for my whale-oil lamps. You snotty kids with your "electricity" and "light bulbs" are cruising for a bruising. Just you wait until the power grid crashes. Y'all gonna be in the dark, and I'm gonna be laughing at you by the warm, mellow light of my whale-oil lamps!


We gotta save the whales, but there's still kerosene fer youse luddites.

CFL bulbs don't generate very much heat at all. Incandescent bulbs can give you a second degree burn.
I think if you guys have CFL bulbs that are producing that much heat you must have defective lights as, I just checked as I have both on right now, my CFL bulbs are just warm and I can't touch my incandescent.
Too bad about the mercury in the CFL though. I think LED bulbs will get cheaper eventually.
I'm going to Crappy Tire tomorrow to get more 40 watt incandescent as we prefer them in our bedside lamps.


I tried to change one of them new fangled CFLs which was inside a globe. (yep, took the globe off first) The base of it burned my hand, and the heat had turned the ceiling paint brown. Glad I caught it. Still using them, but never in a globe.


Seems to be a bit of a time delay on them. Long as they're bright enough to read by, don't care.


Make sure they're well vented.


Made in China. Hey, it's all good.

At -35c cfls take too long to come to full brightness.
When I replaced all the bulbs in the house years ago, I kept all the old ones just for the back porch light, and the front door light, and the cold room.



Jeezuz Das, where are you where it's -35 and dark. ?
 

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Glass salad, tossed in with some oregano, can be delicious, but hard on the intestines. (My smilies are broke)

Just double dose your Metamucil, you'll be fine. ;)


Das, where are you where it's -35 and dark. ?

Judging from all the screenshots from the weather network he posts, I'm going to guess somewhere just shy of the North Pole, lol.
 

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Lights out for incandescent light bulbs starts Jan.1
Amanda Gaudet, QMI Agency
First posted: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 01:57 PM EST | Updated: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 03:38 PM EST
Turn em off, Canada. Starting in 2014, you'll have a hard time replacing your incandescent light bulbs, as new government regulations kick in.
In an attempt to make the country more energy efficient in the New Year, the federal government is phasing out 75- and 100-watt incandescent bulbs starting Jan. 1.
Retailers will be allowed to sell off any remaining stock they have on their shelves, but after Wednesday manufactures can no longer supply the bulbs to the Canadian market.
"Right now it's just the two sizes of bulbs that they're getting rid of," an employee at a St. Jacobs, Ont., Home Hardware told QMI Agency. "We have them on a display skid in the middle aisle of the store ... Retailers are allowed to see them until there is no more (in stock). We will not get another supply."
By the end of December 2014 Canadian regulations will eliminate the production of 40-watt and 60-watt bulbs as well, forcing people to purchase the more expensive and energy-friendly LED or compact fluorescent bulbs.
The federal ban has the rest of Canada joining British Columbia, whose provincial government phased out 75- and 100-watt incandescent bulbs in early 2011. The ban also comes on the heels of the United State, where the bulbs started coming off shelves a year ago. For Americans, Jan. 1 marks the end of production for 60- and 40-watt incandescent lights.
Similar efforts are underway or completed across Europe and several other areas of the industrialized world.
Lights out for incandescent light bulbs starts Jan.1 | Canada | News | Toronto Sun
I don't like cfls. they don't last long, they are fragile, they generate heat, they are poisonous, etc. :(
Fire hazard, health hazard…. What else with these CFL bulbs? There’s mercury in them. And mercurochrome and merthiolate and thermometres, anything with mercury in them. All banned…
I've had incidences where these bulbs have been smoking, and throwing out sparks.
This is safe/healthy HOW!?!
'Steps to take when a CFL bulb breaks.....Before cleanup, during cleanup and after cleanup'.....Every living thing in my house has to leave the area!?! Open windows and shut off the furnace!?!
"Clean" it up (wearing a HAZMAT suit!?!).... AND leave the windows open and the furnace off for several hours!?!
I have Swedish ball/globe light fixtures in my kitchen. And Pole Lamps globe light fixtures and other assorted ‘covered’ lights in every room in my house. From what I’ve read, these bulbs are not supposed to be enclosed in anything.
Does the government expect me to replace all the fixtures in my house?!
Is the government going to help me pay to have all these fixtures replaced!?!
From what I’ve read, these bulbs are not supposed to be used outside ‘in the weather’.
What about the light outside my front door? What about the light outside my back door?
Be thorough in collecting broken glass and visible powder.” WHAT IS THIS POWDER!?! SOME OTHER TOXIN!?!

 

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Oh, de dwama!

Seeing folk get this worked up over lightbulbs reminds me of the old saying "The fury of the battle was matched only by the pettiness of the stakes."