Ponderous Intellect
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Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
November 15th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Woof!
Quoting EagleSmack
BTW.... I dare you - even now - to infer to any member of 1 SSF that any man was better than another or imply that patch means anything other than a proud unit.
Funny... I just can't find any Canadian Units in WWII N. Africa in the Canada at War webpage.
Are your reading skills not up to snuff? Google up all the Canadians you want to. When men are assigned to other units, (British in this case) for all intents and purposes, they are part of that unit - just like you thought all the Canadians at Singapore were (Hiroshima thread) Gee ... one might think a smart "marine" like you would know how that works.
But what I asked was not whether Canada contributed to the war effort. I asked him to give some examples as to where US and British troops were pulled out and Canadians put in because they are better.
This is the statement you questioned:
"...In the second world war the Canadian soldiers were sent to areas where the Allies were having problems because we got things done...."
Then, you planted this:
"...The British didn't get Canada really into the picture until 1943 Sicily...."
So ... you were enlightened.
Are your reading skills not up to snuff? Google up all the Canadians you want to. When men are assigned to other units, (British in this case) for all intents and purposes, they are part of that unit - just like you thought all the Canadians at Singapore were (Hiroshima thread) Gee ... one might think a smart "marine" like you would know how that works.
But what I asked was not whether Canada contributed to the war effort. I asked him to give some examples as to where US and British troops were pulled out and Canadians put in because they are better.
This is the statement you questioned:
"...In the second world war the Canadian soldiers were sent to areas where the Allies were having problems because we got things done...."
Then, you planted this:
"...The British didn't get Canada really into the picture until 1943 Sicily...."
So ... you were enlightened.
Woof!
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,912
Location: USA
Location: USA
November 17th, 2007, 11:21 AM
Canadian units were just not used until later in the war. They weren't ready. As much as Canada loves to claim being in the war before the US... they really weren't "IN" the war. Canada's first war death is listed as a PVT who was executed after he surrendered which occured after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
The Battle of Britain? There were volunteer Americans there too. There was also the Tiger Airforce which was battling the Japanese prior to Pearl Harbor.
When you said I was enlightened when mentioning Sicily... well I wonder how? Canadian units were used in Sicily but they were under British control not in replacement of British troops because the Brits "could not get things done."
As far as the 1st SF... I just thought it was funny that he picked out this unit as an example of how Canadians are better than everyone else... but yet the unit was half made up of Americans! Don't you think that is funny?
Canadian units were just not used until later in the war. They weren't ready. As much as Canada loves to claim being in the war before the US... they really weren't "IN" the war. Canada's first war death is listed as a PVT who was executed after he surrendered which occured after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
The Battle of Britain? There were volunteer Americans there too. There was also the Tiger Airforce which was battling the Japanese prior to Pearl Harbor.
When you said I was enlightened when mentioning Sicily... well I wonder how? Canadian units were used in Sicily but they were under British control not in replacement of British troops because the Brits "could not get things done."
As far as the 1st SF... I just thought it was funny that he picked out this unit as an example of how Canadians are better than everyone else... but yet the unit was half made up of Americans! Don't you think that is funny?
Canada was in a long time before America and its few volunteers in the Battle of Britain. Battle for Hong Kong comes to mind.
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,495
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
November 17th, 2007, 11:44 AM
Quoting EagleSmack
Woof!
Canadian units were just not used until later in the war. They weren't ready. As much as Canada loves to claim being in the war before the US... they really weren't "IN" the war. Canada's first war death is listed as a PVT who was executed after he surrendered which occured after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Do you Google your intel? I doubt if you ever cracked a book, or asked a vet - where the facts live.
As members of the Commonwealth, Canadians weren't regarded as Canadian units until morale problems forced Britain to relent, respect our identity and give due credit for our part.
The Battle of Britain? There were volunteer Americans there too. There was also the Tiger Airforce which was battling the Japanese prior to Pearl Harbor.
Nobody ever said there weren't American volunteers. It might surprise you to know how many actually did go through BCATP. We know about 1st AVG too ... even to their real nic: the Flying Tigers.
When you said I was enlightened when mentioning Sicily... well I wonder how? Canadian units were used in Sicily but they were under British control not in replacement of British troops because the Brits "could not get things done."
No ... you were enlightened about Canadians being a part of the show prior to 1943. Do you read in depth or just pick out bits and pieces?
As far as the 1st SF... I just thought it was funny that he picked out this unit as an example of how Canadians are better than everyone else... but yet the unit was half made up of Americans! Don't you think that is funny?
I think it is an insult to a proud regiment that you would interpret it that way. A real Marine would know those Canadians were combat experienced - even if it was with BEF and involved a retreat (Dunkirk) - and you just can't get better instruction than from peers who have eaten dirt on a battlefield.
BTW it's 1st SSF (Special Services Force) Show a little respect. It was half Yank...
Do you Google your intel? I doubt if you ever cracked a book, or asked a vet - where the facts live.
As members of the Commonwealth, Canadians weren't regarded as Canadian units until morale problems forced Britain to relent, respect our identity and give due credit for our part.
The Battle of Britain? There were volunteer Americans there too. There was also the Tiger Airforce which was battling the Japanese prior to Pearl Harbor.
Nobody ever said there weren't American volunteers. It might surprise you to know how many actually did go through BCATP. We know about 1st AVG too ... even to their real nic: the Flying Tigers.
When you said I was enlightened when mentioning Sicily... well I wonder how? Canadian units were used in Sicily but they were under British control not in replacement of British troops because the Brits "could not get things done."
No ... you were enlightened about Canadians being a part of the show prior to 1943. Do you read in depth or just pick out bits and pieces?
As far as the 1st SF... I just thought it was funny that he picked out this unit as an example of how Canadians are better than everyone else... but yet the unit was half made up of Americans! Don't you think that is funny?
I think it is an insult to a proud regiment that you would interpret it that way. A real Marine would know those Canadians were combat experienced - even if it was with BEF and involved a retreat (Dunkirk) - and you just can't get better instruction than from peers who have eaten dirt on a battlefield.
BTW it's 1st SSF (Special Services Force) Show a little respect. It was half Yank...
