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Tai_Te is offline Tai_Te
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July 19th, 2005, 10:47 PM

My girlfriend wants to come to Canada for about 3 months. I know the regulations and we tried before but they wouldn't let her in. Anybody know any tricks?
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lance is offline lance
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July 19th, 2005, 11:02 PM

Who knows
Apply again.
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 21st, 2005, 11:41 AM

Get an invitation. Preferably from an organization inviting you to a conference, congress or something of the sort.

I have a friend in Hefei who might be able to help you out. Here's his e-mail:

liujian0754_cn@sina.com

He knows Chinese. He is Chinese. And helping people to go abroad is part of his business. And his name is Liu Jianguo. I hope he can help.

Good luck.
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bevvyd is offline bevvyd
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July 21st, 2005, 01:07 PM

Why wouldn't they let her in? And was it Canada or China that refused the visa?
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 21st, 2005, 04:07 PM

If you're a Chinese person wanting to come to canada, giving you your Chinese passport is the Chinese government's responsibility, but giving you your visa is the Canadian government's.

So if the issue is that someone refused to give a visa to go to Canada, then that person must be representing the Canadian government.
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manda is offline manda
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July 21st, 2005, 04:35 PM

What possible reason would they have for refusing?
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 21st, 2005, 05:44 PM

My guess is politics.

Perhaps the government has some quotas. If it has to do with immigration, then I'm sure quotas are involved. Otherwise, if it has to do with work, study, tourist or some other visa, then it could have to do with suspicions (Does she intend to stay afterwards? Does she have the funds to return home afterwards? Why does she want to come to Canada? etc.) What you must realise is that when it comes to Immigration Canada, you're not a human, you're a number. You're filling a quota, an objective, some strategy, economic or otherwise, etc. And that's all you are.

Don't you just love life?
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bevvyd is offline bevvyd
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July 22nd, 2005, 09:32 AM

[quote="Tai_Te"]My girlfriend wants to come to Canada for about 3 months. I know the regulations and we tried before but they wouldn't let her in. Anybody know any tricks?[/quote]

That could be your reason.
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p106_peppy is offline p106_peppy
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July 22nd, 2005, 09:57 AM

Yes, she needs to get rich. visitors will be turned away if they dont have enough income, because it is believed that if they're poor they wont have anything to go back to.
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Tai_Te is offline Tai_Te
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July 27th, 2005, 09:21 PM

Thanks,

I tried emailing that guy.... we'll see if he can help.

I told a lawyer that I would get my grandma to inviter her girlfriend. This is because the invitor should state that they will support the visitor if the visitor needs $ and my grandma has enough $ for this. The lawyer told me the only thing he could help with was an invitation letter. And that costs $100.

Canada has to be careful how many people it lets in and it doesn't give out visas easy because nobody can be sure if the person coming to Canada is going to go back to their original country. As soon as someone sets foot in Canada they have all the rights of Canadians... so if a Chinese person says "don't send me back because in China I won't have my freedom" maybe it's a hassle to send them back........?

being rich would be a good idea too...
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 27th, 2005, 10:10 PM

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Thanks,

I tried emailing that guy.... we'll see if he can help.

I told a lawyer that I would get my grandma to inviter her girlfriend. This is because the invitor should state that they will support the visitor if the visitor needs $ and my grandma has enough $ for this. The lawyer told me the only thing he could help with was an invitation letter. And that costs $100.

Canada has to be careful how many people it lets in and it doesn't give out visas easy because nobody can be sure if the person coming to Canada is going to go back to their original country. As soon as someone sets foot in Canada they have all the rights of Canadians... so if a Chinese person says "don't send me back because in China I won't have my freedom" maybe it's a hassle to send them back........?

being rich would be a good idea too...
Just one point though, Tai Te. Whatever yu do please keep it legal. For me, it's just a matter of respect for Canada and its laws.
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Tai_Te is offline Tai_Te
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July 27th, 2005, 10:39 PM

Ya of course it's legal....... I wouldn't even know how to do something illegal..... you mean like put her in a wooden boat and float her over to Vancouver?
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 28th, 2005, 05:12 PM

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Ya of course it's legal....... I wouldn't even know how to do something illegal..... you mean like put her in a wooden boat and float her over to Vancouver?
Excellent. Then I hope to see her in Canada soon.
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shanghaimm is offline shanghaimm
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July 28th, 2005, 09:47 PM

Did she have proper docements when she applied. Letter of invitation and bank statements are very important.
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Tai_Te is offline Tai_Te
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July 29th, 2005, 09:04 PM

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Did she have proper docements when she applied. Letter of invitation and bank statements are very important.
Last time we applied we had everything. Maybe our bank statements made us look too poor..... I duno.
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canada500 is offline canada500
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July 29th, 2005, 09:30 PM

We do have tight restrictions on how much money you have to have. The people who put those restrictions in place had forebearers who wouldn't have been able to pay, but their snotty now that they got rich.
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LaoWai is offline LaoWai
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July 31st, 2005, 06:22 AM

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Did she have proper docements when she applied. Letter of invitation and bank statements are very important.
Last time we applied we had everything. Maybe our bank statements made us look too poor..... I duno.
You got to think like a Canadian Immigration officer to answer the original question about why she was refused a visa.

A single girl (you didn't mention her ager) from The People's Republic of China travelling to Canada by herself does so for only about three legitimate reasons. They are: She will be attending school, or she has legitimate business Concerns in Canada, or she will later meet up with a Chinese sponsored tour group.

Any young single Chinese woman applying for a visa, unless her daddy is a rich man with the right contacts, will immediately raise the eyebrows of the Visa section of the Embassy or Consulate where she applies. Even if sponsored by a Canadian, the visa granting officer will assume her real purpose of visiting Canada is one of the following:

Illegal Immigration
Prostitution
Smuggling
Husband Hunting
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Machjo is offline Machjo
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July 31st, 2005, 01:32 PM

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Did she have proper docements when she applied. Letter of invitation and bank statements are very important.
Last time we applied we had everything. Maybe our bank statements made us look too poor..... I duno.
You got to think like a Canadian Immigration officer to answer the original question about why she was refused a visa.

A single girl (you didn't mention her ager) from The People's Republic of China travelling to Canada by herself does so for only about three legitimate reasons. They are: She will be attending school, or she has legitimate business Concerns in Canada, or she will later meet up with a Chinese sponsored tour group.

Any young single Chinese woman applying for a visa, unless her daddy is a rich man with the right contacts, will immediately raise the eyebrows of the Visa section of the Embassy or Consulate where she applies. Even if sponsored by a Canadian, the visa granting officer will assume her real purpose of visiting Canada is one of the following:

Illegal Immigration
Prostitution
Smuggling
Husband Hunting
Which would seem to be a pretty bigotted stereotype. But unfortunately, there might be some truth to it. And even more unfortunate is that it then smears those who don't fit into the stereotype. But what to do?
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