The Expanding Earth

[Liberalman]

The Expanding Earth


Since there is volcanic eruptions on the ocean floor on a regular bases, does anybody know what percentage the earth expanded since people started to record this information?

My second question, is it a possibility that undersea volcanic eruption are causing the both polar caps to melt that effecting global warming and not carbon in the air.

My last question is the greenhouse effect due to expanding earth a natural occurring event and has nothing to do with human intervention?

Before the world starts spending billions of dollars on carbon capture we should find out if it really is our fault.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Why would the earth expand, Liberalman, what is the mechanism for it? Do you have a link to it? And not any link, I mean a respectable link (like Nature, Science, Scientific American, or any reputable, established journal). Don’t give me what somebody says on some blog, there is a lot of rubbish on the internet.

 

[MHz]

The Expanding Earth


Since there is volcanic eruptions on the ocean floor on a regular bases, does anybody know what percentage the earth expanded since people started to record this information?

My second question, is it a possibility that undersea volcanic eruption are causing the both polar caps to melt that effecting global warming and not carbon in the air.

My last question is the greenhouse effect due to expanding earth a natural occurring event and has nothing to do with human intervention?

Before the world starts spending billions of dollars on carbon capture we should find out if it really is our fault.

I believe the theory goes that the ridges in the oceans are the expansion joints. I also believe the mid Atlantic one spreads about as fast as a fingernail grows. The Pacific should be expanding at a rate higher than that since it is much wider or it was the first place expansion took place.

It is quite possible that the less ice overall the better the earth can shed heat out to the space, an attempt to slow expansion. If the earth shed heat too fast it will start to cool and an ice-sheet will begin to form. Ice can act as an insulator so the heat is shed less quickly in an attempt to stop a contraction caused by the cooling causing a shrinkage.

Not really, if they were linked then the earth should have been getting warmer at the same expansion rate that has taken place. Volcanoes and expansion rifts could have helped make snow darker so it would attract more heat, that would assist coming out of an existing ice-age. Dust and such has been shown to make season shorter on a small scale but I'm not sure a long ice-age (100,000 years +) can be caused strictly by them alone.

This site might have some better answers.
1-ACCREATION Theory

 

[Tonington]

The Expanding Earth


Since there is volcanic eruptions on the ocean floor on a regular bases, does anybody know what percentage the earth expanded since people started to record this information?

My second question, is it a possibility that undersea volcanic eruption are causing the both polar caps to melt that effecting global warming and not carbon in the air.

My last question is the greenhouse effect due to expanding earth a natural occurring event and has nothing to do with human intervention?

Before the world starts spending billions of dollars on carbon capture we should find out if it really is our fault.

237 watts per square meter- the amount of energy hitting the Earth's surface from the sun.

The geothermal flux on active ocean crustal zones like mid-ocean ridges is 0.2 watts per square meter.

Air to ocean fluxes are about 100 watts per square meter.

The anthropogenic greenhouse effects traps somewhere around 3.8 watts per sqaure meter.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Since there is volcanic eruptions on the ocean floor on a regular bases, does anybody know what percentage the earth expanded since people started to record this information?

Zero percent. There's no evidence the earth's expanding, though there are a lot of junk science sites out there trying to argue otherwise.

My second question, is it a possibility that undersea volcanic eruption are causing the both polar caps to melt...

No. The Antarctic ice cap is on land.
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My last question is the greenhouse effect due to expanding earth a natural occurring event and has nothing to do with human intervention?

No. There is no greenhouse effect due to the expanding earth. The earth is not expanding.

 

[MHz]

This map of the ocean floor show it's age. There is expansion or it would be a constant age. What this doesn't show are the subduction zones that must come with the 'always the same size theory'. Perhaps Dex can explain that part to us.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

This map of the ocean floor show it's age. There is expansion or it would be a constant age. What this doesn't show are the subduction zones that must come with the 'always the same size theory'. Perhaps Dex can explain that part to us.

We've gone around this twice before, I'm not going to do it again.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/science-environment/68111-earth-growing.html
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/alternate-theories/80274-expanding-earth-theory.html

 

[MHz]

We've gone around this twice before, I'm not going to do it again.

Thank God for small favors, literally I said the Lords prayer and asked or thanked Hin for that bit of news ..... I'll let you ponders on if it came before or after reading your last (and final) post on the subject.
With magma (just the very upper stuff, it gets much thicker the further you go into the mantel. Granite would be as buoyant as a cork on the Dead Sea. Being twice the density resistance would be great. If the Rockies were made from subduction the what was being subducted would not go smoothly. The mountain range that would be formed would be even higher than the Rockies.

The spreading around Greenland and Northern Canada would indicate a break and then some drifting. The spread would be similar to a high-speed impact, on a floating solid that is shattered by an impact that would be large enough to create what today is called Hudson's Bay. That section of land is billions of years old.

I'll even agree that the rift that is spreading off the coast of BC has the part that is heading east is a subduction zone, but it is what would have become brand new land except it is 'recycled'. As much as has flowed to the east has flowed back under most of the Americas in that same amount of time. (with some minor variances caused by the crack not being perfectly straight over all that time),That doesn't take away that the initial crack would have been from uplift inside the mantle due to a rise in pressure from inside the mantle. A substance that is twice as dense as granite would expand how much per degree of temperature rise? Sooner or later something will give if the temperature rises enough. A slow flow that 'oozes' for 180,000,000 years could still have started with a major event that did 90% of the 'growth'. Put a blanket of ice several miles deep and the initial crack would not eject much material even at a much higher initial pressure.

 

[Walter]

The anthropogenic greenhouse effects traps somewhere around 3.8 watts per sqaure meter.

According to some.

 

[Avro]

According to some.

According to common science.

The same science that debunks the bible.

 

[L Gilbert]

It would make sense that things grow due to thermal expansion. The oceans rise because of it. Metals expand with rises in temperatures.
Personally, I think it doesn't expand in a comprehensive sense. I think it expands here and contracts there at the same time. IOW, it simply changes shape and temperatures aren't uniform.

NASA - Most Changes in Earth's Shape Due to Changes in Climate

 

[MHz]

This probably belongs here.

Fancy multi-media presentations don't alter the facts. One more time, MHz, I'll try to be as clear as I can. I told you in another thread that I will not discuss this with you again, we've been around it twice before and you were trying to draw me out for a third time. Now you're trying it a fourth time, and the answer's the same: No, I will not discuss this with you again. Your style of discussion always ends up with mockery, denial, and insult, though you don't usually start that way as you have here. I will not again respond to any posts of yours on the subject of an expanding earth, geophysics is another item on the list of subjects you don't know enough about to discuss sensibly.

At what point should I actually expect you to stop posting??? Rather than rattle away on the keyboard just don't even type anything. Of the 3 things you mention I can find an example of each in your post. The sadness is that you don't see yourself as being just what you accuse me of being. "geophysics is another item on the list of subjects you don't know enough about to discuss sensibly"
Since most of my posts have been links to articles and animations where doe the mockery, denial, and insulting come in.

Now you have a cake on the other thread, go enjoy it. For myself I like the vids, the page below has more than 9, all quite interesting.

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http://www.continuitystudios.net/guestvid.html

 

[L Gilbert]

This probably belongs here.



At what point should I actually expect you to stop posting??? Rather than rattle away on the keyboard just don't even type anything. Of the 3 things you mention I can find an example of each in your post. The sadness is that you don't see yourself as being just what you accuse me of being. "geophysics is another item on the list of subjects you don't know enough about to discuss sensibly"
Since most of my posts have been links to articles and animations where doe the mockery, denial, and insulting come in.

Now you have a cake on the other thread, go enjoy it. For myself I like the vids, the page below has more than 9, all quite interesting.

Untitled Document
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Interesting hypothesis.

Expanding Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here's a theory,

Plate tectonics - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I posed the question near the beginning of the thread, what makes anybody think that earth is expanding? And if it is, what is the mechanism? I have read the links given by various posters, and nobody has really given any convincing reasons for either of these questions.

Pending that, I stay with my conclusion that earth is not expanding (or at least there is no convincing scientific evidence for it).

 

[eagledare]

I will post more links later but explore this one so long.

Welcome to www.expanding-earth.org!

 

[eagledare]

Evidence

Here is a link to a very scientific book by J Maxlow.
Terra Non Firma Earth (Adobe Reader) ebook download James Maxlow

 

[FUBAR]

Expanding Earth??? Does this mean that if I hand my house and property down through the generations it will turn into a thousand acre ranch eventually?? I guess that's why dinosaurs look so big the Earth was smaller a few million years ago.......

 

[lone wolf]

If Earth is supposed to be expanding, wouldn't the extra mass move it farther from the sun?

_unless we're slowing down too. I mean, hockey in June?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Expanding Earth??? Does this mean that if I hand my house and property down through the generations it will turn into a thousand acre ranch eventually?? I guess that's why dinosaurs look so big the Earth was smaller a few million years ago.......

Fubar, I remember reading a sci fi story by Henry Kuttner (a great author, but unfortunately he died young). In that he postulated that everything is contracting, becoming smaller. Not only earth, but sun, galaxies, the universe, everything. What is more, all the laws, gravitational constant, speed of light etc. adjust themselves automatically, so that we don’t notice the difference.

The only way to notice the difference is of course, by time travel, and that is exactly what happens in the story.

 

[#juan]

mass of meteorites and dust sriking the Earth annually is about 40,000,000 kilograms

the mass of the Earth is roughly 6,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 kilograms

Accretion is the only way Earth is expanding and from the numbers we can see that the mass of meteorites and dust is
miniscule compared with the mass of the Earth.