New Research Finds Melting Arctic May Cost Global Economy $60 Trillion


Locutus
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The rapidly melting Arctic is not only a looming climate catastrophe, but new research shows it could be an economic disaster, as well.
In findings (external - login to view) published in the journal Nature, economists and polar scientists from the University of Cambridge and Erasmus University Rotterdam found that the ripple effects of climate change in the Arctic ó unlocking frozen reserves of methane that speed global warming and cause destructive and costly climactic changes across the planet ó could deal a severe blow to the global economy.
The release of methane from thawing permafrost beneath the East Siberian Sea, off northern Russia, alone comes with an average global price tag of $60 trillion in the absence of mitigating action ó a figure comparable to the size of the world economy in 2012 (about $70 trillion). The total cost of Arctic change will be much higher.


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New Research Finds Melting Arctic May Cost Global Economy $60 Trillion | ThinkProgress (external - login to view)




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Zipperfish
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These numbers are very close to my figures. I've perfromed exhaustive calcualtions based on sketchy data with high uncertainty and come up definitively with a total of $126.7 bazillion.
 
Walter
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Think progress = Lose Your Liberty
 
damngrumpy
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In the seventies we had people running around talking about an ice age and
some of those people are the same ones preaching global warming. Now
of course we don't usually hear global warming, they call it climate change.
This is about raising money and preaching the green religion the Bishops of
Green as it were. I think we are in for a rough time but the world and its climate
has been changing since the beginning of time.
 
Wake
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

In the seventies we had people running around talking about an ice age and
some of those people are the same ones preaching global warming. Now
of course we don't usually hear global warming, they call it climate change.
This is about raising money and preaching the green religion the Bishops of
Green as it were. I think we are in for a rough time but the world and its climate
has been changing since the beginning of time.

You are completely correct that the same people who were sounding the alarm about the coming ice age are now AGM advocates. Because not ONE model has been correct they changed the name to "climate change" so that they could blame any unusual climate deviation on this false hypothesis.

In California we are having a wet year. These occur every 10-20 years and so are not unusual. But this one seems a little stronger than usual. And so even though they couldn't even predict this they are blaming it upon AGW.

They have even gone so far as to claim that this sort of rain hasn't occurred for 500 years. California has only had white men and even poorly kept records since 1800 or so. And we didn't keep any real records until 1870 or so. So they couldn't even GUESS at records that were actually kept.

And since we have rains pretty much similar every one or two decades there is no geological records because such things are only reliable in FLAT country in sedimentary deposits. In California there is no real flat ground and no reliable geological records.

Here we have gone from threats of forever drought to massive flooding in days. The media showed an LA rider that is totally cemented in. Overpasses that go over it appear to make it look like a freeway. They showed film of the river raging during the hardest rains in years. And this drain was less than half full. Meantime they were announcing that "freeways are being flooded and washing away." Not in LA they weren't.

The "freeway" being washed away is the coastal road Highway 1 and several others that had been carelessly built to begin with since the object was the view and not the safety of road users.

In a hushed voice, "The death toll due to flooding has reached FIVE!!!" Each of these were of course due to running off of roads into raging rivers or having the, never should have been allowed to be planted, HUGE Eucalyptus trees falling over since their root systems are NOT adequate for these climates.

It is important for Canadians to realize that you too are targets for these people. You two are having more of your tax money being given to "refugees" than to your own retirees. You two are going to discover more and more Canadian jobs handed to illegal aliens because it would be just too horrible to enforce the law.
 
leoz70
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By the way, Arctic sea ice is fast disappearing. Last month, sea-ice extent hit a record low in the 38-year satellite record.
And...
As the Arctic Ocean’s spring sea-ice cover shrinks, microscopic zooplankton are declining that serious ramifications for the region’s food chain, from fish to seals to polar bears.
 
EagleSmack
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Curious Cdn
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If a bunch of anonymous Alt-Reich Internet trolls say that it's a big lie, they can't be wrong, can they?
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

If a bunch of anonymous Alt-Reich Internet trolls say that it's a big lie, they can't be wrong, can they?

Some alt-left(alt-wrong?) internet trolls said the artic would be ice free since 2013. They can't be wrong either can they?
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

Some alt-left(alt-wrong?) internet trolls said the artic would be ice free since 2013. They can't be wrong either can they?

Who said that (besides you)?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Who said that (besides you)?

Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7139797.stm (external - login to view)


Kerry claims the Arctic will be ice-free by summer 2013 | PolitiFact (external - login to view)

"Scientists project that the Arctic will be ice-free in the summer of 2013."
John Kerry (external - login to view) on Monday, August 31st, 2009 in an op-ed published in the Huffington Post

Al Gore Forecasted “Ice-Free” Arctic by 2013; Ice Cover Expands 50%

http://www.thenewamerican.com/tech/environment/item/17207-al-gore-forecasted-ice-free-arctic-by-2013-ice-cover-expands-50 (external - login to view)


I think you owe Ski a deep and heartfelt apology.
 
Twila
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still extremely low.

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...-at-both-poles


Also a large concern:

Extreme weather events linked to climate change impact on the jet stream
https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0327083120.htm (external - login to view)
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Who said that (besides you)?



For the record, I have never said it. I don't predict the weather.
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

For the record, I have never said it. I don't predict the weather.

Aren't you glad you don't?

Seems to be a science of great difficulty to predict.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

For the record, I have never said it. I don't predict the weather.

Your NAZI friends on here seem to know better than the rest of the world.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

Aren't you glad you don't?

Seems to be a science of great difficulty to predict.


The morning weather guy only gets today's weather right 50% of the time.

Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Your NAZI friends on here seem to know better than the rest of the world.



The true sign of running into the losing end of an argument when the Nazi or Hitler card is played.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Your NAZI friends on here seem to know better than the rest of the world.

 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post


The true sign of running into the losing end of an argument when the Nazi or Hitler card is played.

Yeah but these guys really are. It's like 1933 again but this time, we have the Internet ...

... and far more and stronger democracies .

Truth will eventually defeat these Alt-Reich a-holes.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

It's like 1933 again but this time, we have the Internet ...

LMAO

You're such a clown.
 
IdRatherBeSkiing
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Quote: Originally Posted by Curious CdnView Post

Yeah but these guys really are. It's like 1933 again but this time, we have the Internet ...

... and far more and stronger democracies .

Truth will eventually defeat these Alt-Reich a-holes.



"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone! "
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by leoz70View Post

By the way, Arctic sea ice is fast disappearing. Last month, sea-ice extent hit a record low in the 38-year satellite record.
And...
As the Arctic Oceanís spring sea-ice cover shrinks, microscopic zooplankton are declining that serious ramifications for the regionís food chain, from fish to seals to polar bears.

Polar bears,seals, zooplankton, fish and Botswanans did just fine prior to temperature plummeting 500 years ago. There is no point in being nostalgic over ice that is the product of the coldest point in modern man's history.
 
Curious Cdn
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Quote: Originally Posted by IdRatherBeSkiingView Post

"You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone! "

Umm, no.

You just don't know your history, very well. They stopped teaching it for the most part in high school (along with Critical Thinking, apparently) and now two whole generations of internet posters are on here citing tabloid conspiracy theories as "history". No wonder lunatics like Trump have gained some traction.
 
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