#1Dec 9th, 2011
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Chevy reVOLTing
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Dec 9th, 2011
Interesting. In this weeks MacLeans the article states that GM can't produce the Volt fast enough to meet demand.
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Dec 9th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave
How many is that?Interesting. In this weeks MacLeans the article states that GM can't produce the Volt fast enough to meet demand.
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Dec 9th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Walter
Yeah, because GM was doing so well before the government got involved.All the gov't money and hype and this is the result. Most things gov't has a hand in turn to crap. Should have left the private sector alone.
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#5 Top Rated PostRe: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 9th, 2011
When did Wheels get into Partisan Politics?
In fairness to GM the Volt is a first generation electric car which is bound to have issues. I think they're moving in the right direction. We better start embracing this technology, fossil fuel will be a thing of the past.
In fairness to GM the Volt is a first generation electric car which is bound to have issues. I think they're moving in the right direction. We better start embracing this technology, fossil fuel will be a thing of the past.
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Dec 9th, 2011
People who say the government shouldn't have got involved do not understand
the reasons for doing so. It had nothing to do with the auto industry it had to do
with the mortgage industry. GM and GMAC were in with a company called
Di Tech.com and they were billions in the whole and indebted to the five major
banks for billions. They gave loans to anyone who could breath and the chickens
were coming home to roost. If a failure that big had taken place North America
and Europe would have sunk into a major depression that would lasted a generation.
Many do not realize that Japan did what America did in the early 1980's and they
have never really recovered from that recession the only thing that might save them
was the coming a huge Wave. All this nonsense about staying away from involvement
is simplistic nonsense period. The problem is the companies misused some of the
funds they were given, and we may in fact see a return to the problems of 2008.
I don't think the economy can be saved now as it stands without major cuts, but at least
they tried.
the reasons for doing so. It had nothing to do with the auto industry it had to do
with the mortgage industry. GM and GMAC were in with a company called
Di Tech.com and they were billions in the whole and indebted to the five major
banks for billions. They gave loans to anyone who could breath and the chickens
were coming home to roost. If a failure that big had taken place North America
and Europe would have sunk into a major depression that would lasted a generation.
Many do not realize that Japan did what America did in the early 1980's and they
have never really recovered from that recession the only thing that might save them
was the coming a huge Wave. All this nonsense about staying away from involvement
is simplistic nonsense period. The problem is the companies misused some of the
funds they were given, and we may in fact see a return to the problems of 2008.
I don't think the economy can be saved now as it stands without major cuts, but at least
they tried.
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Dec 9th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
GM beta tested electric cars in California ages ago and destroyed all the cars after the test.When did Wheels get into Partisan Politics?
In fairness to GM the Volt is a first generation electric car which is bound to have issues. I think they're moving in the right direction. We better start embracing this technology, fossil fuel will be a thing of the past.
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Dec 9th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
GM beta tested electric cars in California ages ago and destroyed all the cars after the test.
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#9Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 9th, 2011
It seems to me that Toyota recently had a host of problems without any help from government bailouts. As RCS points out any new technology takes awhile to prefect. Since GM pretty much scrapped its electric car program it is really starting over from scratch so far as the Volt is concerned. Given enough time I expect GM will get it right.
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#10Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
I didn't see anything partisan in that article at all. Chevy had a problem with batteries that were not serviced after crash tests and an improperly installed charging station caused a fire, their engineers are looking into it, a Toyota sales rep compares the reaction to that Toyota received for their engineering shortcomings, sales are lagging GM projections, they call the Volt a competetive car in it's price range after rebates, the car rates higher than Porsche 911 and the Dodge Challenger in owner satisfaction, and to finish off the article:When did Wheels get into Partisan Politics?
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What is partisan about that? I think it's clearly partisan that Walter put this in the climate change sub-forum and somehow turned this into a problem related to government. That's just retarded, he must be reading a different article.Earlier this year, after a drive around Toronto, I called the Volt my car of the year. Six months later, my opinion hasn’t changed. Let’s hope for GM’s sake that more people start to feel the same way.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Yes I know, but unlike then, I think this will become the norm and the technology will be adopted by the driving public.GM beta tested electric cars in California ages ago and destroyed all the cars after the test.
Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
Did you read my response or just assume that I was agreeing with Walter's stance?I didn't see anything partisan in that article at all. Chevy had a problem with batteries that were not serviced after crash tests and an improperly installed charging station caused a fire, their engineers are looking into it, a Toyota sales rep compares the reaction to that Toyota received for their engineering shortcomings, sales are lagging GM projections, they call the Volt a competetive car in it's price range after rebates, the car rates higher than Porsche 911 and the Dodge Challenger in owner satisfaction, and to finish off the article:
What is partisan about that? I think it's clearly partisan that Walter put this in the climate change sub-forum and somehow turned this into a problem related to government. That's just retarded, he must be reading a different article.
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#12Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
When they offer a 3/4t 4x4 with an 800km range I'll be interested.Yes I know, but unlike then, I think this will become the norm and the technology will be adopted by the driving public.
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#13Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
I have driven a 6X6 with a 1200 km range, but of course it had two 1000 litre fuel tanksWhen they offer a 3/4t 4x4 with an 800km range I'll be interested.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Talk about a large environmental footprint, lol.I have driven a 6X6 with a 1200 km range, but of course it had two 1000 litre fuel tanks
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Dec 10th, 2011
If it delivered more goods than what it consumed over its life time then all is well.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
Yes, I even gave a run down of my reading from the article, which I didn't find partisan at all. What parts did you find partisan?Did you read my response or just assume that I was agreeing with Walter's stance?
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
Yes, I even gave a run down of my reading from the article, which I didn't find partisan at all. What parts did you find partisan?
I don't think RCS found any of it partisan.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
Me to but that would require a 3 t full of batteries right now.When they offer a 3/4t 4x4 with an 800km range I'll be interested.
GM does make the Sierra as a hybred though
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#19Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave
I said I wanted a truck.GM does make the Sierra as a hybred though
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
It is . Just that the cargo carrying capacity is diminished by battery carrying. Besides trucks are not made for us anymore. They are built for city slickers that want to pull a trailer or go skiing a couple of times a year.I said I wanted a truck.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by taxslave
It's a Sierra. A girl's truck.It is
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#22Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011
If i was to buy a Chevy these days... It would be a 2012 Carmaro RS, 6.2 ltr. 400 hp on an aluminum block, 5 spd manual, sport suspension, deep blue.. i'd slink up to a Volt and roar my engine, squeal my tires.. just to let the everyone know that insipid, self righteous evironmentalists haven't completely taken over the world.
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#23Re: Chevy reVOLTing
Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by coldstream
It's 6-speeds, no 5-speeds. If i was to buy a Chevy these days... It would be a 2012 Carmaro RS, 6.2 ltr. 400 hp on an aluminum block, 5 spd manual, sport suspension, deep blue.. i'd slink up to a Volt and roar my engine, squeal my tires.. just to let the everyone know that insipid, self righteous evironmentalists haven't completely taken over the world.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by petros
I like a girl that has her own truck.It's a Sierra. A girl's truck.
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Dec 10th, 2011Quote: Originally Posted by Walter
Walter where in hell have you been. Both the fires were in cars that had just been crash tested. They were supposed to All the gov't money and hype and this is the result. Most things gov't has a hand in turn to crap. Should have left the private sector alone.
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remove the batteries after a crash test and they didn't. The fault was not with the cars.
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