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Flurple

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I am a new believer in Christ. I have started a daily Bible reading and it started me in Genesis and Matthew. In reading in Genesis I have some questions.

Here is my first question:

Genesis Chapter one talks about God creating man, he created them both male and female and he told them be fruitful and multiply. It also talks about God creating the animals. Then in Chapter 2, it talks about the creation of Adam and Eve. Is this two separate creations, or is it the same creation?
 

MHz

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Without getting into the new earth prophecies I take Genesis 1 to be the path the 'dust' took to become part of a living soul. Genesis 2 would be the path the 'breath of life' took.

Ge.2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground,
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life;
and man became a living soul.

If the new earth is part of the reason there are two 'creation accounts' then the way the world looked is the same as it will look when New Jerusalem descends in Re.21 and 22. Adam would be the first man to step out of ne Jerusalem onto a world that would be in the same condition as it was after fire from God in Heaven destroyed Satan near the end of Re.20.
 

Corduroy

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Eris, the Goddess of Discord, inserts contradictory passages into the Bible to confuse man and promote disorder. Why are there so many Christian sects if the Bible is the pure and holy word of God? Because it's actually the work of Eris: the Golden Apple in book form.

Hail Eris!
 

MHz

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Careful of the godless ones around, they seem to outnumber believers by a very wide margin, PM me if you would like a few links to some sites that will take you question a lot more seriously than this place ever will. The above poster is one of the milder antichrists you will find here.
 

Cliffy

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I am a new believer in Christ. I have started a daily Bible reading and it started me in Genesis and Matthew. In reading in Genesis I have some questions.

Here is my first question:

Genesis Chapter one talks about God creating man, he created them both male and female and he told them be fruitful and multiply. It also talks about God creating the animals. Then in Chapter 2, it talks about the creation of Adam and Eve. Is this two separate creations, or is it the same creation?
Reread the passages in Genesis.. The first creation was by God. The second creation was by The Lord God. Two different beings. The first was the creator, the second was the psychopath who breaths fire and brimstone. Everything that comes after the creation of man is not of god but of its nemesis. Beware of gods and men bearing gifts because there are always conditions attached.

The Creator god gave life to its creation without expectation, judgment or punishment. The Lord God saw the opportunity to take control of the situation and demanded subjugation and adoration from man and punishment if we failed to bow down and kiss its feet. Well, I know a falsehood when I see it. I know a tyrant when I see one. Continue your studies if you wish, but it is not going to get you any closer to home, just a psychotic fear of life, death and your creator.
 

Corduroy

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Careful of the godless ones around, they seem to outnumber believers by a very wide margin, PM me if you would like a few links to some sites that will take you question a lot more seriously than this place ever will. The above poster is one of the milder antichrists you will find here.

Godless maybe, but not Goddessless.
 

Flurple

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These are very interesting perspectives, but they bring up more questions than they answer. I am not so sure that God in Genesis 1 and The Lord God in Genesis 2 are two different beings, but rest assured that I will research this.

MHz, I do not know how to pm some one here. I would like any links that can help me answer this question and all others that I have. Any thing you can provide will benefit me.
 

MHz

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You have to go to your settings/control panel/edit options and then check the 'enable private messages' box
 

Cliffy

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These are very interesting perspectives, but they bring up more questions than they answer. I am not so sure that God in Genesis 1 and The Lord God in Genesis 2 are two different beings, but rest assured that I will research this.

MHz, I do not know how to pm some one here. I would like any links that can help me answer this question and all others that I have. Any thing you can provide will benefit me.
I don't think that option is available until you have about 25 posts to ensure a new poster is not going to spam everybody.
 

Flurple

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MHz, I could not find it. I will check at a later date for it. In the mean time can you post the links here?
 

Corduroy

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These are very interesting perspectives, but they bring up more questions than they answer.

Ah ha! And you dare deny Eris? What better evidence could there be for the goddess of discord than increasing discord? Praise Eris! We have all been witness to the goddess's hand at work in the mind of Flurple! We are most fortunate today!
 

Dexter Sinister

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I am a new believer in Christ. ... I have some questions.
That'll go on for the rest of your life. I would assume there were other people involved in your conversion, and that you're a member of a group or congregation of some kind, these things rarely happen in isolation. Those are the people to go to first with your questions. An Internet message board is probably not the best place to go to for religious instruction, and this particular one certainly isn't.
 

Said1

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I am a new believer in Christ. I have started a daily Bible reading and it started me in Genesis and Matthew. In reading in Genesis I have some questions.

Here is my first question:

Genesis Chapter one talks about God creating man, he created them both male and female and he told them be fruitful and multiply. It also talks about God creating the animals. Then in Chapter 2, it talks about the creation of Adam and Eve. Is this two separate creations, or is it the same creation?

It's the same creation.
 

ShintoMale

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I am a new believer in Christ. I have started a daily Bible reading and it started me in Genesis and Matthew. In reading in Genesis I have some questions.

Here is my first question:

Genesis Chapter one talks about God creating man, he created them both male and female and he told them be fruitful and multiply. It also talks about God creating the animals. Then in Chapter 2, it talks about the creation of Adam and Eve. Is this two separate creations, or is it the same creation?

yes they are 2 different stories by 2 different authors. the bible is filled with stories that have 2 versions of the same event
 

dattaswami

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I am a new believer in Christ. I have started a daily Bible reading and it started me in Genesis and Matthew. In reading in Genesis I have some questions.

Here is my first question:

Genesis Chapter one talks about God creating man, he created them both male and female and he told them be fruitful and multiply. It also talks about God creating the animals. Then in Chapter 2, it talks about the creation of Adam and Eve. Is this two separate creations, or is it the same creation?

The first creation that came from God is space or inert energy. Akasa (space) and Tejas (inert energy) are one and the same because space is a form of inert energy only. Matter, work, light, heat, sound, electricity, magnetism and awareness are also other forms of inert energy. Our imagination cannot cross the limits of space. The link or process of production between God and space is also unimaginable like God. This link is beyond space and God is beyond this link. The space is called as Mahat. The link is called as Avyaktam which means unimaginable. The Parabrahman is mentioned as purusha. The Veda says that Avyaktam is beyond space and purusha is beyond Avyaktam (Mahatah paramavyaktam avyaktat purushah parah).

God is first. Space is second. Air is third. We can explain the generation of third from second, but not the second from first. Second and third are imaginable items. Space or energy became air. Air means atoms. This is energy condensing into matter. This process of condensation is explicable and debatable. This process is parinama or vivarta. If matter is different from energy only by quantitative way it is vivarta like water condensed to ice. Vivarta brings only physical difference. The parinama is qualitative difference like milk becoming curd. Before the creation of matter, only energy exists. If energy is condensed, it should be vivarta process only, which is physical. But if all the mater is energy only, how the qualitative difference came between items of matter? There cannot be qualitative difference between blocks of ice having various sizes. One block of ice may be more concentrated (or condensed) but it cannot bring a qualitative difference. But the qualitative difference between the milk and curd is practically experienced in the world. Milk and curd are also condensed products of same energy and may have quantitative difference. Thus this point of contradiction brings the unimaginability, which is the characteristic of God. Therefore, the presence of the unimaginable power of God (Maya) is everywhere in the world. The Gita says that this Prakruti is also Maya (Mayam tu prakrutim). Thus the entire world is affected by the hidden power of God (Maya), which is known by deep analysis.

When the energy and work are essentially same, the different quantities of energy-drops (electrons) giving rise to different properties mean different works of God giving rise to different properties. Here the wonder is that the working material and work are one and the same in essence. Therefore, the unimaginable God does wonderful works and His work it self is the working material. The work is power of God, which it self is the working material. All this creation is work without any separate working material because the working material itself is a form of work. According to science also, any material (matter) is a form of energy and work is also a form of the same energy. Thus, this wonder exists in science, which says that matter is a condensed form energy. For the process of condensation, space is required and the space should be different from energy for the process of condensation to take place. But space is a form of energy as per the special theory of relativity. In such case, how the energy is condensed? Because, space is also energy. This is another wonder. Like this, when this nature (Prakruti) is analyzed, it is a wonder (Maya) only as said in Gita (Mayam tu..). Thus, Maya becomes the inner substratum of the world. God is the substratum of Maya (Mayinam tu…Gita). Thus, God is the final substratum of this world. The generation of matter on condensation of energy and the transformation of matter in to energy by dilution are wonders in the context of space being the energy. Thus, the generation, maintenance on substratum and dissolution are works of Maya, which mean wonders of God. Such wonder is for souls only and is well known to God and therefore it is not a wonder to God. Thus, Maya is a logic or science for God, just like the nature is a logical science to the souls. It is only higher logic or super science of God which is above the level of souls.
 

levanty

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Ah ha! And you dare deny Eris? What better evidence could there be for the goddess of discord than increasing discord? Praise Eris! We have all been witness to the goddess's hand at work in the mind of Flurple! We are most fortunate today!
God made woman (as a helper and companion for man) out of one of his ribs.
They were 2 distinct creations, male and female.
IMO - Some people should go back to acting school and/or get a life, whichever is faster.