If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Cannuck

#91

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

So your blanket statement that I know little is not much more than a reflection of your own knowledge of the subject.

Not only is it clear you know very little about religion, you also don't know what a blanket statement is

Quote: Originally Posted by Cliffy

Oh, and I was referring to the 2500 sects not the individuals

You are still wrong on either count

JLM

#92

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

Not only is it clear you know very little about religion, you also don't know what a blanket statement is

You are still wrong on either count

If you are so clever about religion, Cannuck, just lay out for all us unwashed all the correct answers and then we can quit having all these boring discussions about religion

Answer #1..............................

Answer #2.............................

Answer #3.............................

Cannuck

#93

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

If you are so clever about religion, Cannuck, just lay out for all us unwashed all the correct answers and then we can quit having all these boring discussions about religion

Answer #1..............................

Answer #2.............................

Answer #3.............................

Who said I have all the answers? That's what separates guys like me from guys like you and Cliffy. I don't claim to "know" the answers....and I certainly don't know what all 2500 Christian denominations think. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that you guys know less than 10% of what you think you know. Take Cliffy and his 2500 sects...there is over 30,000 Christian denominations. If he can't even get close on that one, I wouldn't put much stock in the rest of his clap trap.

JLM

#94

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

Who said I have all the answers? That's what separates guys like me from guys like you and Cliffy. I don't claim to "know" the answers....and I certainly don't know what all 2500 Christian denominations think. The only thing I'm pretty sure of is that you guys know less than 10% of what you think you know. Take Cliffy and his 2500 sects...there is over 30,000 Christian denominations. If he can't even get close on that one, I wouldn't put much stock in the rest of his clap trap.

I find it rather presumptuous to know what someone else knows or doesn't know.

Cannuck

#95

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

I find it rather presumptuous to know what someone else knows or doesn't know.

Hardly. You do post your thoughts on a public forum and many times, a 12 year old can see the failed logic.

JLM

#96

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

Hardly. You do post your thoughts on a public forum and many times, a 12 year old can see the failed logic.

Show me the 12 year old.

Goober

#97

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven

This is sort of typical of religious dogma over riding even common sense and courtesy. Rude offensive ignorant baiting and trolling aside, it appears, as it always has, any critical thinking is not at all welcomed by some followers thick with belief and nothing else. I don't think I need to start a thread as this one has all that is needed to understand this. Simple for the simple minded I expect.

No I have no issue with critical thinking I have no issue with those that have or have no religious beliefs. I do have an issue with trolling though.

I also believe in Free Will - Some religious sects do not- Christian and Islamic sects for example.

That about sums up my reply. If i had offended you i will apologize for that.

Unforgiven

#98

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

No I have no issue with critical thinking I have no issue with those that have or have no religious beliefs. I do have an issue with trolling though.

I also believe in Free Will - Some religious sects do not- Christian and Islamic sects for example.

That about sums up my reply. If i had offended you i will apologize for that.

Nah, what sums up your reply is that like most fundies you're as hypocritical as they come. If you have an "issue" with trolling, exactly what the hell are you doing on the Internet?

Goober

#99

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Nah, what sums up your reply is that like most fundies you're as hypocritical as they come. If you have an "issue" with trolling, exactly what the hell are you doing on the Internet?

Not all people troll now do they. Are you stating that I should have to agree with all the BS that can go on in a thread that i am required to accept it.

Would that in itself also be hypocritical?

–noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

Now as to being a Fundie you are grossly in error. But that's OK. I bring it to your attention and you can do with it as you please.

Cannuck

#100

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Show me the 12 year old.

Let me know the next time you are coming through southern Ab. I'll introduce you to my kids.

Unforgiven

#101

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Goober

Not all people troll now do they. Are you stating that I should have to agree with all the BS that can go on in a thread that i am required to accept it.

Nope, rather that you jump far too quickly to call someone a troll. Should I tell you to go start some thread about it?

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Would that in itself also be hypocritical?

Who cares? The hypocrisy you demonstrate is evident in the post you made. If you can't understand it there how could I explain it to you?

Quote:

–noun 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.

2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.

You don't even see how this applies to you and what you have said.

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Now as to being a Fundie you are grossly in error. But that's OK. I bring it to your attention and you can do with it as you please.

Right, I know you better than you know yourself. check Like I needed that pointed out.

Goober

#102

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Nope, rather that you jump far too quickly to call someone a troll. Should I tell you to go start some thread about it?

Who cares? The hypocrisy you demonstrate is evident in the post you made. If you can't understand it there how could I explain it to you?

You don't even see how this applies to you and what you have said.

Right, I know you better than you know yourself. check Like I needed that pointed out.

You make a complete judgment of a person by one post. Really good attitude you have.

So explain your definition of a Fundamentalist Christian?

Unforgiven

#103

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Did you think you were some deep read, complex, textured with many facets revealing an old and fathomless wisdom?
I got some bad news for you sunshine.

Goober

#104

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Nov 15th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Unforgiven

Did you think you were some deep read, complex, textured with many facets revealing an old and fathomless wisdom?
I got some bad news for you sunshine.

No have never thoght that - Guess that is bad news for you.

Myself - I am completetly average in just about everything that comes to mind right at this time. But when I have time to waste, and a waste of time it would be I may wonder if there are aspects of myself that may be slighly and I do mean slightly above average. Though I doubt i would waste the time on something so trivial. Is that more bad news for you. I hope not.

Do you think that you have those abilities. Perhaps you do. I do not have enough information upon which I would base my opinion. So post on Mcduff, Post on

Bad news, not a problem with that. People get it every day, some more so than others. I have had my share and lived thru it. So thats life eh.

Radrook

#105

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 18th, 2011

IMPO The atheists tend to be more missionary-minded than the religious.

Trotz

#106

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 18th, 2011

What about the Christians in Poland?

It's prefectly alright to have sex, brothels next to funeral homes; et al, as long as you confess yourself of sins at the end of the day...

petros

#107

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 18th, 2011

Quote:

It's prefectly alright to have sex, brothels next to funeral homes; et al, as long as you confess yourself of sins at the end of the day...

Let me sleep on that and I'll answer in the morning but first I gotta tell my wife about the great score I made in the markets.

Nuggler

#108

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 18th, 2011

...........It don't take a lot to get Dattaswammie,(whomever),rollin, do it??

GreenFish66

#109

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 18th, 2011

Father, Forgive Us our Sins/Trespasses as we Forgive those who Sin/Trespass against us...

Forgive, Can Never Forget...

dattaswami

#110

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 19th, 2011

Past human incarnations Vs Present human incarnaton
The human incarnation is most relevant for any human being
Unless, the alive human form of God is caught, clear knowledge cannot dawn in the mind of a human being

Today is Samkranti, which means transfer of sun from south to north. Sun represents the intelligence, which is the basis of logical analysis. The Gayatri mantra also says that sun provokes the intelligence. The south represents the path of rituals, which involves the worship of representatives of energetic forms of God like statues or formless models of Vishnu, Shiva, etc. and the worship of statues of past human incarnations like Rama, Krishna, etc. In this path, the statues or some formless representatives are selected for worship because the spiritual aspirant has not yet conquered his ego and jealousy towards contemporary human incarnation, which, in fact is the most relevant address of God for a human being. The three great epics of Hindu religion (Ramayana, Mahabharatam and Bhagavatam) preach about the two great past human incarnations called as Rama and Krishna. Even the Bible of Christianity is based on the past human incarnation called as Jesus. The Islam is based on another human incarnation called as Mohammed. The Buddhism is based on the human incarnation called as Buddha. Jainism is also based on the human incarnation called as Mahavir. The human incarnation is most relevant for any human being because God always comes in human form only to preach human beings.

Even the energetic form is also in human shape only, which is relevant to souls in energetic bodies only and hardly there is any practical example that the energetic from of God preached the human beings. The human energetic form is again an indication to the human being to divert to the alive human form of God. Unless, the alive human form of God is caught, clear knowledge cannot dawn in the mind of a human being. But, the alive human form of God is recognized only when ego and jealousy are conquered. Hence, the path of knowledge (Jnana) is represented by the north. The diversion of the sun from south to north indicates the human being diverting from the path of rituals (karma) towards the path of knowledge, which is based on Satguru or the contemporary human incarnation. This diversion denotes the conquer of ego and jealousy by the spiritual aspirant towards a co-human form.
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Universal Spirituality for World Peace

talloola

#111

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 19th, 2011

I do not believe in any god, don't believe in sin, but I do believe in honesty, loyalty and
kindness to my fellow man.

Makes much more sense to me.

petros

#112

Re: If you are doing a sin, you are going against the will of God

Jan 19th, 2011

Sin schmin. I know a good lawywer who can get you down to two years on a broken mirror.