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herald
#1Jun 15th, 2010
Filial forgiveness. Gen 45:14-15.
Evil act forgiven. Gen 50:15-21.
Forgiving spirit. Ex 23:4-5;Pro 24:17;25:21-22.
Parable convinces need to forgive. 2 Sam 14:1-21.
Forgiving prayer. Job 42:7-10.
Forgiven sins honor God. Ps 25:11.
God's forgiveness and punishment. Ps 99:8.
Forgiven, forgotten. Ps 103:12 (To such as keep His Covenant, and remember His commandments.)
None deserves forgiveness. Ps 130:3-4.
Depth of mercy and grace. Ps 145:8-9.
Love's power. Pro 10:12.
Controlled anger. Pro 19:11.
God's reason for forgiving. Isa 43:25.
Forgiveness like a cloud swept away. Isa 44:22-23.
God's love to faithless Israel. Jer 3:12-13.
God's total forgiveness. Jer 50:20.
Forgiving Lord. Joel 2:12-13.
Given a second chance. Jon 1:1-3;3:1-3.
Forgiving grace, mercy of God. Mi 7:18.
Stewardship, forgiveness. Matt 5:23-24.
Forgiving, forgiven. Matt 6:14-15.
Principles of forgiveness. Matt 18:21-22;Mk 11:25;Lu 17:3-4;2 Cor 2:7-10;Ja 5:15,16.
Forgiving, not forgiving. Matt 18:23-35.
Judging, being judged. Lu 6:37.
Gratitude for great forgiveness. Lu 7:39-50.
Full measure of forgiveness. Lu 17:3-4.
Martyr's forgiving spirit. Acts 7:60.
Truly forgiven. Rom 4:8.
God's forgiven enemies. Rom 5:10.
Forgiving member of congregation. 2 Cor 2:5-11.
Forgive complaints. Col 3:12.
Forgiveness, patience. Col 3:13.
Sins of ignorance. 1 Tim 1:12-14.
Paul's attitude toward deserters. 2 Tim 4:16.
Record cleared. Heb 1:3.
Mercy of salvation. Heb 10:17.
Love and forgiveness. 1 Pet 4:8.
Our Advocate with the Heavenly Father. 1 John 2:1,2.
(Courtesy of Ken Anderson: Where To Find It In The Bible)

But, you must be born again to enter into the kingdom of God: Ezek 36:26,27;John 3:3-7.
 
AnnaG
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 25th, 2010
So what's your point?
 
Said1
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Jun 25th, 2010
They even have 'full measure' forgiveness. Is that like super sizing it?
 
AnnaG
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Jun 25th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by Said1View Post

They even have 'full measure' forgiveness. Is that like super sizing it?

Is there a lottery for being full measured forgiven? Where can I get a ticket?
 
GreenFish66
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Jun 25th, 2010
Forgive ..Just don't ever Forget...
 
talloola
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Jun 25th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by GreenFish66View Post

Forgive ..Just don't ever Forget...

yup, that is the way it goes, because one cannot forget, and that is OK.
 
Lessie
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 25th, 2010
Herald.. this is for you. Use it.

Last edited by Lessie; Jun 25th, 2010 at 05:45 PM..
 
Chiliagon
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Jun 25th, 2010
Forgiveness.. Is more than being Sorry!..
 
JLM
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Jun 25th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

Filial forgiveness. Gen 45:14-15.
Evil act forgiven. Gen 50:15-21.
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It's only Friday - save that stuff for Sunday.
 
Chiliagon
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Jun 25th, 2010
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lone wolf
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Jun 25th, 2010
Geez, Lessie.... Where was that form back when I was married?
 
Lessie
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Jun 25th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Geez, Lessie.... Where was that form back when I was married?

So now you have a chance. This form will help you.
 
herald
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 26th, 2010
The only way you can be forgiven is to be born again: John 3:-7; and the Old Testament version is Ezekiel 36:26,27.
 
Cliffy
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 26th, 2010
I have a friend who is a nurse. She is always apologizing for everything. I told her once that she could stop apologizing for having been born. She is a great nurse with a massive heart. She seems to be the only one who doesn't see that.

We forgive because holding a grudge hurts us more than the other person. I have another friend who holds a grudge against her former best friend who she says stole her lover. She can't forgive her because she says that would be condoning her actions. She doesn't see that she is the only one suffering because she can't forgive.

As for god's forgiveness, if you believe god created you and then tells you you can't be human, then the fault lies with the creator, not you. As for sinning, if you follow all the rules in the bible and quran, you would sit in one place and do nothing. If that is what god wants and expects of us then he is a lunatic - which the creator isn't, so it is your beliefs that are out to lunch.
 
lone wolf
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Jun 26th, 2010
From my perspective, peace of mind is forgiveness. I can't live anyone else's life.
 
Lessie
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Jun 26th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

The only way you can be forgiven is to be born again: John

You can’t forgive somebody for something or you can’t been forgiven by somebody for something? I can’t understand your point.
What do you want to speak about?
 
AnnaG
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Jun 26th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

yup, that is the way it goes, because one cannot forget, and that is OK.

lol I forget lotsa stuff.

Quote: Originally Posted by LessieView Post

Herald.. this is for you. Use it.

lmao That's awesome, Lessie, thanks.

Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

The only way you can be forgiven is to be born again: John 3:-7; and the Old Testament version is Ezekiel 36:26,27.

Horse pucks. All it takes for forgiveness is to accept that human beings are not perfect and that in the long run, there are very few things that cannot be forgiven.
A god which cannot forgive has only itself to blame.

“The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.” - Mahatma Ghandi

“When you hold resentment toward another, you are bound to that person or condition by an emotional link that is stronger than steel. Forgiveness is the only way to dissolve that link and get free.” - Catherine Ponder

“To forgive is to set a prisoner free and discover that the prisoner was you.” - Lewis B Smedes

“Sincere forgiveness isn't colored with expectations that the other person apologize or change. Don't worry whether or not they finally understand you. Love them and release them. Life feeds back truth to people in its own way and time.” - Susan Paddison
Last edited by AnnaG; Jun 26th, 2010 at 03:19 PM..
 
herald
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 27th, 2010
If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.
 
JLM
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Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

It's Sunday Herald, spew forth your nonsense to your heart's content- every idiot should have one day a week to indulge his idiocy. Just be gone tomorrow.
 
Cliffy
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

If you believe god created you and that god is all things, how is it possible that you are anything but part of his spirit? It is impossible to not be born in his spirit so all of your warnings are nothing but doom saying for the sake of doom saying. We were all created in the image of god so how can a person be anything other than part of god? You cannot separate yourself from god, otherwise you would not exist. Your belief that a person can be separate from god is thus an illusion created by your own beliefs which, if drawn to there inevitable conclusion, are contrary to what your god intended. To continue down this path of condemning everybody who does not accept your version of truth to burn in a lake of fire, then, condemns you to that fate.

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

It's Sunday Herald, spew forth your nonsense to your heart's content- every idiot should have one day a week to indulge his idiocy. Just be gone tomorrow.

But like Bill Murray in What About Bob? he will always be there. Open any door and there will be herald with his "The End Is Nigh!" placard booming "DOOM!" with every breath. Makes one want to scream "Turn it off!!!!!! Turn it off!!!!" or vomit.
 
JLM
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Jun 27th, 2010
[QUOTE=Cliffy;1295960]If you believe god created you and that god is all things, how is it possible that you are anything but part of his spirit? It is impossible to not be born in his spirit so all of your warnings are nothing but doom saying for the sake of doom saying. We were all created in the image of god so how can a person be anything other than part of god? You cannot separate yourself from god, otherwise you would not exist. Your belief that a person can be separate from god is thus an illusion created by your own beliefs which, if drawn to there inevitable conclusion, are contrary to what your god intended. To continue down this path of condemning everybody who does not accept your version of truth to burn in a lake of fire, then, condemns you to that fate.


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Your patience is commendable, Cliff.
 
Cliffy
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Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post


Your patience is commendable, Cliff.

I woke up at 3 and had to find something to entertain my mind. A full moon last night: insanity prevails.
 
taxslave
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Re: Forgiveness

Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

Sure beats freezing your ass off in a frozen waste land. Three cheers for global warming.

My memory isn't long enough any more to forgive. I always forget first.
 
L Gilbert
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Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

Says who? You? rofl

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Sure beats freezing your ass off in a frozen waste land. Three cheers for global warming.

My memory isn't long enough any more to forgive. I always forget first.

That's contagious. lol
 
lone wolf
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Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

If you won't play ball my way, you can pretty much go to Hell too.

I'm sure you can see the similarity.....
 
L Gilbert
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Jun 27th, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by heraldView Post

If you are not born of His Spirit, you will end up in the lake of fire.

If you continue this grinchlike attitude, the Seuss god will make you eat your nads.
 
AndyF
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Jul 1st, 2010
AnnaG:

Actually, society insists we do not forgive without conditions, because has it's role model to it's citizens and in particular the criminal pardon, it doesn't forgive unless it is asked for, AND, the offender submits additional sentencing not stated at trial of 300$ disguised has a "fee".

The conclusion is that whatever religion Canada holds to collectively, it isn't Christian,
because Christians believe that forgiveness/pardons are to be granted unconditionally.

AndyF
 
AnnaG
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Jul 23rd, 2010
Quote: Originally Posted by AndyFView Post

AnnaG:

Actually, society insists we do not forgive without conditions, because has it's role model to it's citizens and in particular the criminal pardon, it doesn't forgive unless it is asked for, AND, the offender submits additional sentencing not stated at trial of 300$ disguised has a "fee".

That is when the forgiveness reaches out to society. Between individuals and oneself, society is left out of the picture.

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The conclusion is that whatever religion Canada holds to collectively, it isn't Christian,

It is more-or-less secular, which is handy when there are many religions. But, Canada was built primarilty with the aid of Christian principles.
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because Christians believe that forgiveness/pardons are to be granted unconditionally.

AndyF

That means murderers, rapists, etc. should ONLY be judged and dealt with by the Christian god, which leaves them to continue causing no end of harm to others.
 
AndyF
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Aug 3rd, 2010
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That means murderers, rapists, etc. should ONLY be judged and dealt with by the Christian god, which leaves them to continue causing no end of harm to others.

God means it to be a collective effort, with individuals and societies doing their part, this is why it isn't working. Power corrupts absolutely, and when you are a society sinning, it seems to become less urgent to correct error. But the christian churches seem to be caught up in collectivism and the power that comes with it. It forgets to minister to nations and tell them that collectively they are wrong. This is because it's safer to forget about an individual who complains than a nation.

I'm not sure, or are we ever, do we know Heralds intent since he seems to mouthpiece without positing, but I can say he isn't describing what is copacetic and harmonious today and this would give a false impression.

If he claims to be extoling Catholic dogma, then at this time his Church has allied itself with civil authority instead of ministering to it, supposedly being the Word of God on this earth. The pardon issue is just one failure of the Church's mandate that it could do something about even if it is a simple protest for the individual. It remains politically correct at the expense of individual backing that he deserves.

One day a real Catholic Church will come out of it's timidity, and be unafraid to voice God's commands.

Andy
 
Cliffy
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Re: Forgiveness

Aug 3rd, 2010
It sounds like you would impose Catholic will on Protestants, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Native Americans, Atheists, Agnostics and everybody else. In a secular society it s not the place of any one religion to dominate the rest. That is why we supposedly have separation of church and state. When Catholicisms had influence over governments we ended up with inquisitions and witch hunts. Sorry, but I and many others would fight Catholic interference in our politics and so called justice system.
 

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