The Sword of the Spirit

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"And take the sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God." Eph 6:17.

"Every Scripture is God breathed..." 2 Tim 3:16.

The first challenge to the Word of God was in the Garden of Eden, when Satan queried, "Yea, hath God said...?" Gen 3:1. When we question God's Word, we are on dangerous ground.

"For the Word of God is quick and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." Heb 4:12.

Jesus quoted Scripture in spiritual warfare with Satan: "It is written..." Matt 4:4,7,10.

We are to search the Scriptures to verify what we are taught: "The Bereans were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the Word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so." Acts 17:11.

Jesus said, "Whosoever therefore shall confess Me before men, him will I confess before My Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father which is in heaven.

THINK NOT THAT I COME TO SEND PEACE ON EARTH: I CAME NOT TO SEND PEACE, BUT A SWORD. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

He that loveth father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after Me, is not worthy of Me. He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for My sake shall find it.

He that receiveth you, receiveth Me, and he that receiveth Me, receiveth Him that sent Me.

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet, shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man, shall receive a righteous man's reward." Matt 10:32-41.

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth Me and receiveth not My Words, hath one that judgeth him, the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. For I have not spoken of Myself; but the Father which sent Me, He gave Me a commandment, what I should say and what I should speak. And I know that His commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto Me, so I speak." John 12:48-50.

"But be ye DOERS of the Word and not hearers, only, DECEIVING yourselves." Ja 1:22.
 
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herald said:
THINK NOT THAT I COME TO SEND PEACE ON EARTH: I CAME NOT TO SEND PEACE, BUT A SWORD.
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Well, that certainly explains a lot of current and historical events. It's god making us do all those horrible things to each other. Maybe we'd be better off without that ferocious old ogre's meddling.
 
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Dexter Sinister said:
Well, that certainly explains a lot of current and historical events. It's god making us do all those horrible things to each other. Maybe we'd be better off without that ferocious old ogre's meddling.
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Do you mean Cosby should have said "God made me do it!"? Or maybe God and Satan are just interchangeable handles for the same entity.
 
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If this was written today and not in the bible , someone would have to say this is psychotic 8O
 
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Unfortunately Dex that is how the Bible says most sinners will go. Jesus was actually talking about the Sword in Heaven, the one that holds all the blood of those sacrificed on the alter. What we do with the sword in His absence is totally our doing, if it is wrong man has the ability to fix it. Not fixing it and blaming our current woes on God doesn't earn points in this world. A little shame now might save a lot of shame in the long run. Shame like attending a conference on human rights and sign on to try and uphold a belief that is adhered to by many Nations.

(For a believer it would also mean the next one where what wasn't fixed in this one is fixed in that one)
 
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Cliffy said:
Do you mean Cosby should have said "God made me do it!"? Or maybe God and Satan are just interchangeable handles for the same entity.
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Go with whatever floats your boat, the branch in the road is still some ways ahead.....or was that it just a moment ago....
 
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Unfortunately Dex that is how the Bible says most sinners will go.
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Yes, I know, but I don't believe there's any such thing as a sin, in the sense of being a transgression of divine law, because I don't recognize any divine law. What believers call sins are really just things that offended the sensibilities of a bunch of ignorant, superstitious, repressed and repressive old men, all of whom are long dead. The OP also remarked that when we question god's word we're on dangerous ground, but a strong case can be made that we're on far more immediately dangerous ground if we don't. Try living by the rules laid out in the OT; you'll soon be arrested for murder, child abuse, vandalism...
 
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Yes, I know, but I don't believe there's any such thing as a sin, in the sense of being a transgression of divine law, because I don't recognize any divine law. What believers call sins are really just things that offended the sensibilities of a bunch of ignorant, superstitious, repressed and repressive old men, all of whom are long dead. The OP also remarked that when we question god's word we're on dangerous ground, but a strong case can be made that we're on far more immediately dangerous ground if we don't. Try living by the rules laid out in the OT; you'll soon be arrested for murder, child abuse, vandalism...
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Dex that is why those ways are called Old and the rules were are to follow are under the New. If you want to bash the guidelines those are the verses you are supposed. Someday you might want to look at it from that POV.

The laws on our books cover a lot more than what the Bible covers. Britain used to ship people to Australia just for stealing bread, what was on their books that got you sent to the Tower of London for execution?
Do that in Canada, while under Martial Law, you can and most likely will be shot dead, no questions asked. That is how thin our right to being treated humanely goes. One snap of the fingers and it's all back to the basics of life.

BTW even viewed as a work of fiction you both could use a self-taught refresher course.
 
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Dex that is why those ways are called Old and the rules were are to follow are under the New.
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That's not really clear in scripture. Jesus is reported as saying the Old rules apply forever, not one jot or tittle of the law shall pass away... I'm sure you know the reference. And I'm equally sure you can twist it to mean something other than what it plainly says.
 
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BTW even viewed as a work of fiction you both could use a self-taught refresher course.

Mhz,

The Lord of the Rings has more relevance and is a whole lot more fun to read.
 
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That's not really clear in scripture. Jesus is reported as saying the Old rules apply forever, not one jot or tittle of the law shall pass away... I'm sure you know the reference. And I'm equally sure you can twist it to mean something other than what it plainly says.
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Yeah I do actually, He was covering only the original 10 commandments, you would know that if you were familiar with Jesus at all. Romans were the Gentiles that received the word first, that is who is the recipient of the instruction.

Ro:13:9:
For this,
Thou shalt not commit adultery,
Thou shalt not kill,
Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Thou shalt not covet;
and if there be any other commandment,
it is briefly comprehended in this saying,
namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This is the Law that remains in this world. Some customs were discarded at the cross, you should have known that also, when the Law is changed so it the Covenant we are under (mankind).

Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

Does this sound like we are under instruction to obey all OT customs, we can if we choose to but it is not a mandatory obligation.

Col:2:16:
Let no man therefore judge you in meat,
or in drink,
or in respect of an holyday,
or of the new moon,
or of the sabbath days:

If you got that wrong should you not just park it and walk away?
 
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Cliffy said:
BTW even viewed as a work of fiction you both could use a self-taught refresher course.

Mhz,

The Lord of the Rings has more relevance and is a whole lot more fun to read.
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The Bible has the outline for the 4th book in that series, want a preview on how it goes?
Everybody in all the various lands are celebrating and then suddenly like a thief in the night..............
 
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