Who Is Jesus?

Who Is Jesus?

herald

#1Jan 18th, 2008

Advocate - 1 John 2:1
ALMIGHTY - Rev 1:8
Alpha & Omega - Rev 1:8,11
Amen - Rev 3:14
Apostle - Heb 3:1
Author & Finisher of our Faith - Heb 12:2
BEFORE ABRAHAM - John 8:58
The Beginning - Rev 21:6
Bishop of Souls - 1 Pe 2:25
Bread of Life - John 6:35,41,48,50,51,58
Bridegroom - Mt 9:15
Carpenter - Mk 6:3
Chief Shepherd - 1 Pe 5:4
The Christ - Mt 1:16,17
Comforter - John 14:16
Consolation of Israel - Lu 2:25
Cornerstone - Eph 2:20
CREATOR - John 1:3
Dayspring - Lu 1:78
Day Star - 1 Pe 1:19
Deliverer - Rom 11:26
The Door - John 10:7,9
EMMANUEL - Mt 1:23 "God with Us"
The End - Rev 21:6
Everlasting Father - Isa 9:6
Faithful and True Witness - Rev 3:14
Firstfruits - 1 Cor 15:23
Friend of Sinners - Mt 11:19
Gift of God - 2 Cor 9:15
GOD - Lu 1:47;John 1:1;Jude 25
Good Shepherd - John 10:11
Governor - Mt 2:6
Great Shepherd - Heb 13:20
Head of the Church - Col 1:18
Healer - Mt 8:16,17
High Priest - Heb 2:17;3:1;4:14,15
Horn of Salvation - Lu 1:69
IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD - Col 1:15
JUDGE - John 5:22;9:39;2 Tim 4:1
King of Israel - Mt 27:42
KING OF KINGS - 1 Tim 6:15;Rev 19:16
Lamb of God - John 1:29,36;Rev 5:6,12,13
Last Adam - 1 Cor 15:45
The Life - John 11:25;14:6
Light of the World - John 1:9;8:12
Lion of the Tribe of Judah - Rev 5:5
LORD OF LORDS - 1 Tim 6:15;Rev 19:16
Master - Lu 9:38
Mediator - 1 Tim 2:5
MESSIAH - John 1:41
MIGHTY GOD - Isa 9:6
Morning Star - Rev 22:16
Passover Lamb - 1 Cor 5:7
Physician - Mt 9:12;Lu 4:25
Potentate - 1 Tim 6:15
Prince of Peace - Isa 9:6
Prince of Life - Acts 3:15;5:31
Prophet - Acts 3:22
Propitiation - 1 John 2:2
Rabbi - John 1:49
Ransom - 1 Tim 2:6
Resurrection & Life - John 11:25
The Rock - Deut 32:4;1 Cor 10:4
Root of David - Rev 22:16
Sacrifice - Eph 5:2
SAVIOR - Lu 1:47
Second Adam - 1 Cor 15:47
Seed of Abraham - Ga 3:16
Seed of David - 2 Tim 2:8
Seed of the Woman - Gen 3:15
Shepherd - John 10:11,12,14,16
Son of David - Mt 15:22
SON OF GOD - Mt 16:16;17:5;Lu 1:35;John 10:36
Son of Man - Mt 18:11
Son of the Most High - Lu 1:32
Teacher - John 3:2
The Truth - John 14:6
The Way - John 14:6
Wonderful Counselor - Isa 9:6
The Word - John 1:1;Rev 19:13
The True Vine - John 15:1,4,5

missile

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 18th, 2008

I thought he was the little Mexican gardener down the street..Jesus Gonzales

gerryh

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 18th, 2008

herald, rather than just posting bible verses, how about YOU answer your own question.

Who is Jesus to you?

herald

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

"A new heart also will I give you and a new spirit will I put within you...and I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,27.

Forty years ago, I was into the Hippie movement and was very lost. My friend who had been living in a commune came to visit me in college. She was transformed. She and her friend began to share the gospel with me. Along with several other former hippies, they prayed for me and the Lord put His Spirit within me, and I claimed Jesus as my Saviour from sin.

I have healed the sick, cast out demons, and raised one man from the dead, by the power of His Spirit.

My grandparents were from Holland and went to China as missionaries. He was arrested by Mao Tse Tung, put on trial before thousands of communist Chinese. They held a gun to his head and demanded, that, he renounce his faith. Instead, he preached the gospel to them. He was thrown into a dungeon. After some time, he prayed, "Lord, take me home or set me free." That very day, someone came, opened the door and set him free. His wife and children had fled into the wilderness from bandits. They would slit your clothes, looking for jewels, and then kill you. My father said, that, bandits rode up and there was a sound of a bugle and it scared them off. The communists went to every house in their village (except theirs) and killed every foreigner. My father, a pathologist, was very cerebral, but, he knew these were miracles from God. From there, they went to Singapore.

I felt my grandparents prayers, while I was growing up. And, God answered them!

When we are born of His Spirit, He loves us from the inside/out. My children love the Lord, too. And now my grandchildren love Jesus

If you are not born of His Spirit, ask Him to be the Lord of your life, and invite His Spirit to live within you. It's not about religion - a Pope, a church, a priest, a pastor...it's all about a relationship with the living God.

Jesus said, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3. And that is not baptism - the thief on the cross was not baptized, but Jesus told him he would be with him in Paradise. It is not faith in our works, but, faith in the works of the sinless Lamb of God.

I love Him more than life itself, and look forward to His coming!

"Even so, come Lord Jesus" Rev 22:20

Last edited by herald; Jan 21st, 2008 at 06:32 AM..

darkbeaver

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

You could leave early and meet him half way.

karrie

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

former hippies? I didn't realize that being what some would call a hippie was exclusive to religion. Plenty of the tie-dye wearing, banjo picking, pot growing, bush living, no-shaving, organic eating hippies I know, are Christians. After all, who's a bigger hippy than Jesus?

Maybe I should break the news to them?

MikeyDB

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

Jesus.....Jesus.....

Isn't he made of chocolate and hanging in an art gallery somewhere?

gerryh

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by herald

"A new heart also will I give you and a new spirit will I put within you...and I will put my spirit within you and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments and do them." Ezek 36:26,27.
Forty years ago, I was into the Hippie movement and was very lost. My friend who had been living in a commune came to visit me in college. She was transformed. She and her friend began to share the gospel with me. Along with several other former hippies, they prayed for me and the Lord put His Spirit within me, and I claimed Jesus as my Saviour from sin.
I have healed the sick, cast out demons, and raised one man from the dead, by the power of His Spirit.
My grandparents were from Holland and went to China as missionaries. He was arrested by Mao Tse Tung, put on trial before thousands of communist Chinese. They held a gun to his head and demanded, that, he renounce his faith. Instead, he preached the gospel to them. He was thrown into a dungeon. After some time, he prayed, "Lord, take me home or set me free." That very day, someone came, opened the door and set him free. His wife and children had fled into the wilderness from bandits. They would slit your clothes, looking for jewels, and then kill you. My father said, that, bandits rode up and there was a sound of a bugle and it scared them off. The communists went to every house in their village (except theirs) and killed every foreigner. My father, a...
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Very well put herald. I can tell your testomony is heartfelt. Your Grnadfather must have been an amazing man.

Ignore the snide remarks from the terminally brain dead.

Pangloss

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

gerryh:

How do those who disagree with you qualify as brain dead? That's an awfully mean thing to say for a follower of the "Prince of Peace."

Or is this some kind of reverse psychology evangelism?

Pangloss

gerryh

#10

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

Jesus.....Jesus.....

Isn't he made of chocolate and hanging in an art gallery somewhere?

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

You could leave early and meet him half way.

Quote: Originally Posted by Pangloss

gerryh:

How do those who disagree with you qualify as brain dead? That's an awfully mean thing to say for a follower of the "Prince of Peace."

Or is this some kind of reverse psychology evangelism?

Pangloss

I am but a mirror.

Pangloss

#11

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

That would be satire, gerryh.

So, perhaps more of a funhouse mirror.

Pangloss

gerryh

#12

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Pangloss

That would be satire, gerryh.

So, perhaps more of a funhouse mirror.

Pangloss

Whatever fits the person I am reflecting.

darkbeaver

#13

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 21st, 2008

One of it's other names is Morning Star,or Lucifer bringer of light.

herald

#14

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 22nd, 2008

Jesus said, "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my Words, hath one that judgeth him: the Word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day." John 12:28

He came the first time as the sacrificial Lamb...He is coming back as the judge.

I hope, that, all of you will take Him as your Savior and serve Him as Lord, so that, you will be ready to meet Him.

Dexter Sinister

#15

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 22nd, 2008

I'll wait 'til he gets here, maybe then we can find out what he really wants. I very much doubt that a 2000-year old text written by people with an obvious agenda has got it right.

talloola

#16

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 22nd, 2008

It seems that, he was a real person, but just like any story over time, I'm sure he was much
different than described, and if he came back today and saw the pictures of himself, he
would probably wonder who it was.

Lester

#17

time

Jan 22nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

I'll wait 'til he gets here, maybe then we can find out what he really wants. I very much doubt that a 2000-year old text written by people with an obvious agenda has got it right.

pass the peyote.
and that jug of wine

Dexter Sinister

#18

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 22nd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by talloola

It seems that, he was a real person, but just like any story over time, I'm sure he was much different than described, and if he came back today and saw the pictures of himself, he
would probably wonder who it was.

I don't think there's much doubt about that. At the time Jesus lived, the Middle East was in a political ferment because of the Roman occupation and repression, and Jesus was only one of many visionaries and apocalyptic prophets and seers around at the time. Monty Python's "The Life of Brian" does a pretty good job of parodying the historical facts, and there's a core of truth in it. In fact there's another person whose authenticity is at least as well attested as Jesus', who's credited with similar miracles, like healing the sick, raising the dead, casting out demons, and all the rest of it. His name has come down to us as Appolonius of Tyana.

I think it's all wishful and magical thinking myself. Perfectly understandable if you understand anything about human nature, but I don't believe there's any reality to it.

herald

#19

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

If you wait until He comes, you will be lost forever...

Lester

#20

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

I have a hard time with the whole religon thing the testements, Apostles, Saints and Prophets - Even today you cannot verbally tell a story or relate an incident without it becoming skewed only after a few tellings, let alone two thousand years of being translated and written out by hand and then retranslated.

Lester

MikeyDB

#21

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

Lester

Oral traditions were all that existed before that printing press thing... and although it's difficult to imagine or synthesize into a more complete picture...many oral traditions weren't as focused on belief in the divine or worshiping god. Behaviors that could be controlled by implying or promising were used as social controls among tribal populations. It's unfortunate that the better elements of belief in the divine like compassion empathy and tolerance...forgiveness and respect became tools of social conditioning. The advantage of ascribing laws and rules to an omnipotent being was exactly the same mechanism used today by used-car salesmen... "I'd live to give you a break on this little beauty but just wait here and I'll go talk with the manager and see what I can do..."

Misdirecting the source of these notions onto an entity that couldn't be seen or felt but who had the future of life and all of the world in his power avoided the messy part of telling people that the laws and rules being made were to benefit the rich the powerful and the few who had an interest in controlling the situation.

As I've said, it's too bad that the generosity of spirit and availability to many of the good feelings and ideas in the spiritual concept of an ominipotent agent were sacrificed to the over-class.

Lester

#22

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

Herald: Show me proof- do not threaten me with eternal damation because I do not subscribe to your beleifs, If there is a God, I don't think he wants me to be a brown nose.
I will live my life following MY own moral compass -do no harm -help in any way I can and be happy with and make the most of what life has given me- you can be spiritual without banging on the pulpit and raining down fire and brimstone.

Dexter Sinister

#23

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by herald

If you wait until He comes, you will be lost forever...

I doubt it. Your kind and loving god would condemn me forever for being unable to take the leap of faith? I know of no compelling reason to believe he's coming, that he was ever here, or that he even exists. I'm willing to take the chance that my own knowledge and reason and logic are more likely to give me the truth of things than your grandiose claims of being the herald of things to come and having healed the sick, cast out demons, and raised the dead. I'm with Doubting Thomas on this one, I think he should have been praised for demanding the evidence for an extraordinary claim instead of accepting hearsay and anecdote. St. Paul said it himself:

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

talloola

#24

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 23rd, 2008

I don't wait for anything in life, or live with hope, or suck up to anyone/anything with hopes of
being part of 'whatever' after I die.

My life is great on this earth, I have love, I give love, I enjoy, I contribute, I adore this
earth, but do wish everyone did the same, and did not abuse her.

When i die I will return to this earth, which is where I started in the first place, along with
everyone else.

I am comforta ble, and happy, and I don't wonder about anything outside this world, well, maybe I do wonder if there are others living on other planets, that would be exciting to know.

I hate using the 'I' word so much, going to give it a rest.

herald

#25

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 24th, 2008

Actually, those who are lost do not suffer, eternally, in hell. That is a pagan notion, that, first crept into Judaism and then into the Christian church. Those who are lost will be burned into ashes in the lake of fire, because they chose to remain in their sin and didn't choose to live with Him forever.

Why don't you ask the Lord Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to you and see what happens.

Many atheists, after having read the Scripture, became believers.

Knowing Jesus is to know eternal life.

Dexter Sinister

#26

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 24th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by herald

Why don't you ask the Lord Jesus Christ to reveal Himself to you and see what happens.

I've tried that, many times before I became apostate, by myself and with the assistance and advice of Catholic and Anglican priests, and Baptist and Lutheran pastors, a Mormon bishop, parents, friends, and siblings. Nothing happened.

Quote:

Many atheists, after having read the Scripture, became believers.

I doubt that the number's very big, but I went the other way. I grew up in a very religious household, and the more Scripture I read the more senseless, illogical, cruel, and just plain stupid the religious content seemed to be. You know what Scripture actually says about marriage, for instance? It's a union between one man and one or more women (Gen 29:18-28, II Sam 3:2-5), and marriage shall not impede a man's right to have multiple concubines as well (II Sam 5:13, I Kings 11:3, II Chron 11:21). Try that these days and see what happens to you. It's not even made clear in the New Testament whether those rules, and all the other foolish (and mostly illegal now) prescriptions for correct behaviour found in Leviticus and Deuteronomy--there are something over 600 of them--still apply or not. There are texts that support both positions.

I gave it up as a bad job, and I find atheism liberating.

talloola

#27

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 24th, 2008

I respect Dexter, that you took much time to deeply study different religions, and learn about many of them, although it does tell me that you had a bit of 'turmoil' for awhile
as to the direction you 'wanted' or 'should' go in life, in respect to religion.

I am thankful that I had 'no' turmoil at all, and I have no answer as to why that was, and
still is, but it saved me lots of research. Everything I feel just came from within me, and
I had no questions, ever. (even when I was a little girl in catholic school, and all the
masses and religious studies, I never asked questions, just listened and wondered), so, I guess the memory of that period of my life, settled it for me.

I've heard it all, from all the religious people on here, and in life, and they just sound like
any other salesmen that are trying to sell me something I don't believe in.

Dexter Sinister

#28

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 24th, 2008

Thanks talloola, I very much appreciate your sensitivity and intelligence. It was a terrible struggle for me, one of the hardest things I've ever done, because of what I grew up with and the expectations of my parents, whom I loved dearly and miss every day. They didn't steer me wrong about much, but on this one I think they were wrong. My apostasy hurt all three of us pretty badly, but I could not be dishonest with them, I had to tell them what I thought when they asked, and they did. To their great credit, they never held it against me, they never stopped loving me and caring about me and supporting me, and they never stopped praying for me, but I know I made them very sad in some ways. I can never fix that, and that still hurts a bit, but honesty overrides it. I am apostate, I sometimes wish I weren't, it would be comforting to believe, and I've tried, gawd how I've tried, but I can't do it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

talloola

#29

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister

Thanks talloola, I very much appreciate your sensitivity and intelligence. It was a terrible struggle for me, one of the hardest things I've ever done, because of what I grew up with and the expectations of my parents, whom I loved dearly and miss every day. They didn't steer me wrong about much, but on this one I think they were wrong. My apostasy hurt all three of us pretty badly, but I could not be dishonest with them, I had to tell them what I thought when they asked, and they did. To their great credit, they never held it against me, they never stopped loving me and caring about me and supporting me, and they never stopped praying for me, but I know I made them very sad in some ways. I can never fix that, and that still hurts a bit, but honesty overrides it. I am apostate, I sometimes wish I weren't, it would be comforting to believe, and I've tried, gawd how I've tried, but I can't do it. It just doesn't make sense to me.

Well, I see how it was very different between us, as teenagers/young adults, as my
parents, although they both seemed to believe in god, they also had their doubts, but my being one generation younger, felt more free with my opinion, and didn't mind being honest, but they would never have done that, wouldn't even have thought about doing it, it would have been 'out of the question'.But, they completely accepted my position, without feeling 'sad' for me. They were fine with it.
I can read and listen to believers talk till they are blue in the face, trying to convince
me and others, with all of their bible quotes, etc., and it makes about as much sense to me as
telling me that 'night is day', and, what really makes me chuckle and shake my head,
is that, they seem to feel sorry for us, and they don't realize that, I feel so relieved that I'm not like them, it's a very free feeling, and natural, and 'for me', it's what we should be.
You be happy as you are, as, from reading all of your posts, you are quite centered ,
obviously intelligent, and level headed, and the last thing you need in you life is
religion to clutter your mind, don't wish for that.

Dexter Sinister

#30

Re: Who Is Jesus?

Jan 25th, 2008

Wow talloola, I wish I knew you in real life. We'd get along fabulously, you'd love my wife, and we could have so many wonderful evenings around the fireplace with wine and cheese and stimulating conversation. It's people like you who keep me coming back here and who make the Internet so wonderful for someone like me. At least 80% of what's out there is crap, but there are some gems in it too, you're one of them, and it's worth wading through the crap to find them. Thanks for being interested and caring.

I think I love you...

It's late at night in my time zone, I've been partying 'cause I don't have to work tomorrow, and I'm bulging with Chateau Sinister 2007 (I make my own wine), or I probably wouldn't be revealing this much of myself. In vino veritas...

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