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October 26th, 2007, 02:44 PM
4 minutes into this and your world view will change
http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...75979627863972
4 minutes into this and your world view will change
http://video.google.es/videoplay?doc...75979627863972
Ponderous Intellect
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October 26th, 2007, 03:38 PM
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/clarifications.htm
Even more important:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm
Check the last line
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/clarifications.htm
Even more important:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm
Check the last line
Gobsmacked
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October 26th, 2007, 03:52 PM
in the film a It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realizes the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized. It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realizehat being said, It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized.
Quoting Twila
Worth repeating, Twila. Powerful words, imo. http://zeitgeistmovie.com/clarifications.htm
Even more important:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm
Check the last line
Even more important:
http://zeitgeistmovie.com/statement.htm
Check the last line
Quote:
hat being said, It is my hope that people will not take what is said ... It is my hope that people will not take what is said in the film as truth, but find it out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized.
in the film a It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realizes the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized. It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realizehat being said, It is my hope that people will not take what is said
in the film as the truth, but find out for themselves, for truth is not told, it is realized.
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October 26th, 2007, 07:20 PM
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Hey, I am not phased any by those movies. I saw the one, and mankind tries to explain everything away.
Jesus never existed on one movie and everything is a myth.
Totally hopeless observations.
Peace>>>AJ
Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
Hey, I am not phased any by those movies. I saw the one, and mankind tries to explain everything away.
Jesus never existed on one movie and everything is a myth.
Totally hopeless observations.
Peace>>>AJ
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October 26th, 2007, 09:26 PM
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting triedit
Close to God? You wanna xplain?
Hopeless? Im quite close to God and have lots of hope yet Im not Christian...
In the end it just matters that you know why you believe what you do.
In the end it just matters that you know why you believe what you do.
Peace>>>AJ
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October 26th, 2007, 09:34 PM
I really liked the reasoning in the video. Brings christianity back down to earth and puts it on the same level as ALL other beliefs and spiritual paths. I concur with the video in all respects. There are far too many similarities amongst the world's religions for it to be a coincidence. It's all local customs and myths being overlayed onto a common backdrop. And the "theory"/belief that all before christianity is a pre-emptive attack by Satan is hogwash.
I really liked the reasoning in the video. Brings christianity back down to earth and puts it on the same level as ALL other beliefs and spiritual paths. I concur with the video in all respects. There are far too many similarities amongst the world's religions for it to be a coincidence. It's all local customs and myths being overlayed onto a common backdrop. And the "theory"/belief that all before christianity is a pre-emptive attack by Satan is hogwash.
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October 26th, 2007, 09:46 PM
i was surprised as hell...a few months back i posted here somewhere about all religions coming from egypt via Atlantas....this just put another bent on that liine of thinking....i know the video ends up in the WTC conspiracy and i avoided that ....wierd i just don't want to go there....i should at least view it.....
In any case the point is on a wall in Luxor is the exact same myth scenario as the Jesus Myth.....2000 years before christ....
i was surprised as hell...a few months back i posted here somewhere about all religions coming from egypt via Atlantas....this just put another bent on that liine of thinking....i know the video ends up in the WTC conspiracy and i avoided that ....wierd i just don't want to go there....i should at least view it.....
In any case the point is on a wall in Luxor is the exact same myth scenario as the Jesus Myth.....2000 years before christ....
Mighty Intellect
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October 26th, 2007, 09:48 PM
I found that everybody has some sort of belief, with its own sets of values, and practices.
What I was looking for is a common thread that was woven through all of them that would give me an insight as to why everybody had to have some sort of belief.
Everybody has an unprovable belief as well as those who believe not can prove nothing as well.
So, where does that leave us as to what to believe. Yes, no, maybe so.
The diversity I believe is what makes the body function completely.
The many membered body functions as one unit, fingers, toes, nose, ears etc.
All work for the common good of the body.
Love is not a myth, it is a reality, and if there is no love, then there is no God.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting RomSpaceKnight
I have looked into some of the myths via a volume of books entitled, "Man, Magic and Myths.
I really liked the reasoning in the video. Brings christianity back down to earth and puts it on the same level as ALL other beliefs and spiritual paths. I concur with the video in all respects. There are far too many similarities amongst the world's religions for it to be a coincidence. It's all local customs and myths being overlayed onto a common backdrop. And the "theory"/belief that all before christianity is a pre-emptive attack by Satan is hogwash.
I found that everybody has some sort of belief, with its own sets of values, and practices.
What I was looking for is a common thread that was woven through all of them that would give me an insight as to why everybody had to have some sort of belief.
Everybody has an unprovable belief as well as those who believe not can prove nothing as well.
So, where does that leave us as to what to believe. Yes, no, maybe so.
The diversity I believe is what makes the body function completely.
The many membered body functions as one unit, fingers, toes, nose, ears etc.
All work for the common good of the body.
Love is not a myth, it is a reality, and if there is no love, then there is no God.
Peace>>>AJ
Mighty Intellect
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October 26th, 2007, 09:58 PM
Mankind could not be satisfied by just living, he had to figure why he was a live in the first place, what he was doing here and if there was not life after this one.
The stars, the Sun and the moon were incorporated in figuring things out. Evolution of knowledge increases by each generation and what seemed complicated, is beginning to seem less.
Unless, I figure, there is an entity, which has to be, for all of did not start with a piece of trash thrown out by some alien, that places thoughts into our minds of revelations bit by bit.
That's why I say that mankind could explain itself away by its own knowledge and completely mis the master of the universe.
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting DocDred
I believe Doc, that we are creatures of curiosity, some more so than others.
i was surprised as hell...a few months back i posted here somewhere about all religions coming from egypt via Atlantas....this just put another bent on that liine of thinking....i know the video ends up in the WTC conspiracy and i avoided that ....wierd i just don't want to go there....i should at least view it.....
In any case the point is on a wall in Luxor is the exact same myth scenario as the Jesus Myth.....2000 years before christ....
In any case the point is on a wall in Luxor is the exact same myth scenario as the Jesus Myth.....2000 years before christ....
Mankind could not be satisfied by just living, he had to figure why he was a live in the first place, what he was doing here and if there was not life after this one.
The stars, the Sun and the moon were incorporated in figuring things out. Evolution of knowledge increases by each generation and what seemed complicated, is beginning to seem less.
Unless, I figure, there is an entity, which has to be, for all of did not start with a piece of trash thrown out by some alien, that places thoughts into our minds of revelations bit by bit.
That's why I say that mankind could explain itself away by its own knowledge and completely mis the master of the universe.
Peace>>>AJ
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October 26th, 2007, 10:30 PM
I find it hard to believe that as science discovers our roots and how things came to be, people still want to believe in the myth as real and not just some metaphor to learn something.....
I find it hard to believe that as science discovers our roots and how things came to be, people still want to believe in the myth as real and not just some metaphor to learn something.....
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October 26th, 2007, 10:43 PM
Faith in what ????
you know there must have been at least 20 billion people emerge from this planet with some sort of BS faith in some thing and prayed till doomsday and nothing happening......Now i think the real truth should be forced into the open...that being we have the ability built inside of us to move our lives in what could appear miraculous...but it can only happen with yourself from yourself.....Hell I've read some interesting Egyptian myths and can tell you the metaphor behind the tale....cool stuff.
Faith in what ????
you know there must have been at least 20 billion people emerge from this planet with some sort of BS faith in some thing and prayed till doomsday and nothing happening......Now i think the real truth should be forced into the open...that being we have the ability built inside of us to move our lives in what could appear miraculous...but it can only happen with yourself from yourself.....Hell I've read some interesting Egyptian myths and can tell you the metaphor behind the tale....cool stuff.
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October 27th, 2007, 12:07 AM
Peace>>>AJ
Quoting DocDred
What you find hard to believe is because it is a reality. If mankind was not do interested in some mystical entity, then I would agree with you.
I find it hard to believe that as science discovers our roots and how things came to be, people still want to believe in the myth as real and not just some metaphor to learn something.....
Peace>>>AJ
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October 27th, 2007, 12:26 AM
Quoting look3467
This is true for some. You make it sound like it is some inner instinct breaking through rather than a contrived lie put to the masses from those in power to continue to have power over the suffering masses.....
What you find hard to believe is because it is a reality. If mankind was not do interested in some mystical entity, then I would agree with you.
Peace>>>AJ
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October 27th, 2007, 06:36 AM
Quoting look3467
Just means that I pray, I try to do right, I care about others, etc. Basically the same as Christains only without anybody between--like a saint or Christ.
Close to God? You wanna xplain?
Peace>>>AJ
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