Steven Hawking's Hero
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September 10th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Florida is the only state which denies adoption by gay couples. Utah and another state fuss about adopting to unmarried couples (gay or straight) but still the adoptions happen - often out of state arrangments with a friendly state.
Being denied marriage is another reason couples are denied adoption but in most states, it is allowed depending upon the background of the couple (as with hetero couples but even heteros unmarried have a difficult time).
What are Canada's adoption laws and invitro and gay couples?
Quoting karrie
Karrie
Okay, so I have to ask... is this much different than the arbitrary decisions that adoption agencies make all throughout the US every single day? Most states deny adoption if you are single don't they? It would be the same situation if these women had attempted to adopt. They are gay, thus viewed as single. It's not like these doctors have stepped in and sterilized the woman, interfered with her natural ability to conceive, they've simply said they won't aid her attempts.
Florida is the only state which denies adoption by gay couples. Utah and another state fuss about adopting to unmarried couples (gay or straight) but still the adoptions happen - often out of state arrangments with a friendly state.
Being denied marriage is another reason couples are denied adoption but in most states, it is allowed depending upon the background of the couple (as with hetero couples but even heteros unmarried have a difficult time).
What are Canada's adoption laws and invitro and gay couples?
September 10th, 2007, 10:06 AM
Quoting Curiosity
From my understanding, Canada doesn't discriminate in either area. But then, our media coverage on issues like that isn't as broad. I'd have to run some research into it to find what the precise rules are. Or make some calls, as many of my gay friends would probably know. I can't believe I'm not better versed in it frankly, but most of my friends haven't hit the age where they are wanting kids yet. I'm the only one in my circle who has kids actually.
Karrie
Florida is the only state which denies adoption by gay couples. Utah and another state fuss about adopting to unmarried couples (gay or straight) but still the adoptions happen - often out of state arrangments with a friendly state.
Being denied marriage is another reason couples are denied adoption but in most states, it is allowed depending upon the background of the couple (as with hetero couples but even heteros unmarried have a difficult time).
What are Canada's adoption laws and invitro and gay couples?
Florida is the only state which denies adoption by gay couples. Utah and another state fuss about adopting to unmarried couples (gay or straight) but still the adoptions happen - often out of state arrangments with a friendly state.
Being denied marriage is another reason couples are denied adoption but in most states, it is allowed depending upon the background of the couple (as with hetero couples but even heteros unmarried have a difficult time).
What are Canada's adoption laws and invitro and gay couples?
Steven Hawking's Hero
Posts: 6,445
September 10th, 2007, 10:27 AM
Karrie
It is frustrating to me - not knowing the actual stats because many cases are left unpublicized - and when the activists make issues out of it with some clinical people - the numbers become impaired and blown out of proportion.
The only real source is to follow couples who have been through the 'system' of acceptance and/or denial and if denied - why? But how many couples do we all know? Very few if any.
I am enraged there are children languishing in care - with all that could be offered them. The whole adoption process should be national and should be well publicized so that every child in foster care has a place in the line and the dream of a home in which to belong.
Off topic a bit I caught a story on television of a couple - two gay men who had invitro done with a sister of the other male - and twins (not identical) were conceived. It was such a treat watching these two big lugs cuddling the tiny little squirmers all decked out in pink blankets.... Those little girls are going to have a great life because the men have ensured there will be surrogate moms (sisters, mothers, aunts in the family) to make the whole process a part of their lives.
Karrie
It is frustrating to me - not knowing the actual stats because many cases are left unpublicized - and when the activists make issues out of it with some clinical people - the numbers become impaired and blown out of proportion.
The only real source is to follow couples who have been through the 'system' of acceptance and/or denial and if denied - why? But how many couples do we all know? Very few if any.
I am enraged there are children languishing in care - with all that could be offered them. The whole adoption process should be national and should be well publicized so that every child in foster care has a place in the line and the dream of a home in which to belong.
Off topic a bit I caught a story on television of a couple - two gay men who had invitro done with a sister of the other male - and twins (not identical) were conceived. It was such a treat watching these two big lugs cuddling the tiny little squirmers all decked out in pink blankets.... Those little girls are going to have a great life because the men have ensured there will be surrogate moms (sisters, mothers, aunts in the family) to make the whole process a part of their lives.
September 10th, 2007, 10:43 AM
I've known a lot of moms who have gone through the adoption process, either to give up or adopt babies, but all have gone to married families, and most have been open adoptions where the mom picked the candidates from their own communities/families. Only one wasn't, and that was an adoption from Haiti, to a religious married couple.
Personally, I find it very difficult to even let my mind set for the briefest of moments on the issue of how many children sit in foster care, waiting for homes. It's heartbreaking.
I've known a lot of moms who have gone through the adoption process, either to give up or adopt babies, but all have gone to married families, and most have been open adoptions where the mom picked the candidates from their own communities/families. Only one wasn't, and that was an adoption from Haiti, to a religious married couple.
Personally, I find it very difficult to even let my mind set for the briefest of moments on the issue of how many children sit in foster care, waiting for homes. It's heartbreaking.
Time Out
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Location: Vancouver Island
Location: Vancouver Island
September 23rd, 2007, 05:15 PM
A good question was raised.... If some sect of some religion says that the Dr. shouldn't help anyone but his own kind (religion), is he allowed to make that choice for religious reasons?
The Hypocratic Oath doesn't really delve into this... however, the oath isn't followed by very many doctors that I have experience with! Especially the following:
A good question was raised.... If some sect of some religion says that the Dr. shouldn't help anyone but his own kind (religion), is he allowed to make that choice for religious reasons?
The Hypocratic Oath doesn't really delve into this... however, the oath isn't followed by very many doctors that I have experience with! Especially the following:
Quote:
Maybe this would apply: I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.
Quote:
This Dr. is a part of a larger community than just his church.... his obligation should be to treat everyone equally, without discrimination.
I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
