"Resurrection day"

April 7th, 2007, 12:05 PM

Notice on what day it falls on? 1st day of a new week? The 8th day?

A new week as meaning the last week has passed away?

The 8th day meaning as part of the last 7 days but a new start?

Could this somehow be tied in with the 7-day creation?

Look3467 sees 3 pictures of the whole creation as the same day.
1st picture is 1-24 hour period day, divided into 4-6 hours periods. Equal to 1,2,3,4, days of the creation story. Also, the period commencing with the Last Supper and ending with the crucifiction of our Lord. (Pictured in the 4 beasts with six wings)

2nd picture is a 24-hour day divided into 2 equal parts, of 12 hours each equal to the 5th and 6th day of creation. (Pictured as the two witnesses of Revelation)

3rd picture is one full 24-hour day equal to the 7th day. (Pictured as the 24 elders in revelation.)

Adding all these up equal to 7 days. This then constitutes a week.

Jesus comes in the middle of that existing week, on the 4th day, dies on the fifth day, lays in the tomb for 3 days, and is resurrected on the 8th day, or the "New Week", commencing a whole new era of life.
A new Kingdom, the New Jerusalem where everybody can come to worship God.

This information does in no way destabilize ones belief in Christ, but rather gives value and worthiness, to the works of God in Jesus in the salvation process of all mankind.

For the weak spiritually, this information is beyond belief, but to the careful studied student, this information is welcomed.

Resurrection day, then is the start of Christ's Kingdom, the old passed away (Nailed to the cross) and the new instituted.

We are of the new Jerusalem, the new resurrection, the life ever lasting of which is there just for the taking.

How do we take it? By accepting Jesus as your Savior, and letting Him be Lord of your life.

May you all have a blessed resurrection day, >>>AJ

April 7th, 2007, 12:44 PM

uhmmm..yeah...hint--stop smoking that wacky tobaccy before posting..there are only 7 days in a week dude......

April 7th, 2007, 01:52 PM

What do you think the 8th day is?

A new week my friend.

Peace>>>AJ

April 7th, 2007, 03:52 PM


Okay, unless you're singing the old Beatles hit "8 Days a Week", you do the math..MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAY--that equals 7

April 7th, 2007, 04:04 PM

Good Grief.its symbolic......Why the fuss?

April 7th, 2007, 04:14 PM

No. You're sinking into numerological nonsense. It's not that complicated. You might start by looking up the word 'allegory' and thinking about the creation stories in Genesis in that context. You might also be interested in learning how similar those accounts are to the creation myths the Jews picked up during their captivity in Babylon. It's almost always a mistake to read those things as history. Creating a historical record was not the prime motive of the many people who wrote all the various bits of the Bible. They get certain historical facts right only incidentally; their main purposes were pedagogy and didacticism.

April 7th, 2007, 07:24 PM

If anything that would make a believer of a scientific mind would be the numbers thing.

After all, the whole universe revolves in numbers.

To see the numbers fit perfectly into Gods word, would make God's word worthy of looking at.

Religious dogmas has it that only what has been taught for so long is the only way to look at God's word.

But with the advent of the computer, knowledge has increased in the sciences as well as the religious end of it.

I for one, 15 years ago would have condemned you to hell because of my then held belief.

But because of my desire to understand God's point of view, I have since had my mind renewed.

I now love you as a brother whether you like it or not.

The numbers in scripture are there and are very significant in the whole understandings of His word.

I see it clearly and am awe struck at how beautiful it all it.

So, numbers is important as you may one day find out.


Peace>>>AJ

April 7th, 2007, 08:39 PM

Check out how the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet fit in the chapter119 of Psalms.
Aleph=The beginning of the alphbet
Tav=the end of the alphabet

Rev 1:8 I am the Alpha and the Omega, saith the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.

?

Peace>>>AJ

April 7th, 2007, 08:54 PM


I totally agree. Never, but never, was it intended for the TWO accounts of Creation in Genesis(both which slightly differ by the way) to be taken literally.

April 7th, 2007, 08:56 PM

See AJ, this is the problem with self-interpretation, it lends itself to screwball notions which are way out of line with Christian doctrine. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Catholicism, there is a uniformity of belief stretching back over the course of the history of the Church. There is no room for off-beat opinions which are inconsistent with the faith as it has always been revealed to us. If anything, you make the Church seem more logical, if one is to be a believer.

April 7th, 2007, 08:59 PM


Let me see if I understand this. You are basically claiming that God has been silent on these "revelations" for over 2, 000 years until computers were invented?! Did I get this right? So God, who is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow as THE BIBLE INDICATES, was incorrect until just recently? It took AJ to come up with this secret revelation that millions upon millions of Christians throughout the centuries did not know? In secular termnology, my friend, what you believe is B***sh*t.

April 7th, 2007, 11:21 PM

No, not to anyone who actually understands numbers; you won't convince any scientific mind of anything that way. There's no science in numerology.

April 8th, 2007, 02:03 AM

Ah, always nice to have the support of an expert. The Bible is *not* a history book or a science text, it's a book about moral and ethical and spiritual lessons that even an unrepentant old atheist like me can find great value in. The biblical writers were not historians or scientists in any modern sense and it's always a mistake to read their writings as if they were. They were teachers and preachers and moralists and ethicists, with a truly masterful understanding of human nature. That's the only way I've ever found to make sense of the Bible.

Though I freely confess that a lot of it still eludes my understanding. But I'm working on it, and expect to be for as long as I live...

April 8th, 2007, 06:57 AM

It's the only sensible thing to do when studying Scriptures. Allegory, metaphors are the mainstay of the 73 books. As you noted, they are not books of history or science, though interestedly enough much of the OT history has been found to be factual.

April 8th, 2007, 09:31 AM

wow, are you still going! even i know this, alpha and omega don't have anything to do with numbers, in the bible, they refer to jesus as the beginning and the end. i just learned that in my rcia class! thanks fr. c.!

April 9th, 2007, 02:21 AM

Numbers in the bible are significant to our understandings.

Why would God not say He created the world in 3 days instead of 6 and resting on the 7th.

You just learned about alpha an omega indicates to me he level of your knowledge. It is well understood why you miss allot of what I say.

You should use me as a source to disprove what I say, to further your knowledge of the word of God.

I have questioned the beliefs of many religions against what the word of God says and found that everyone of them have a point of view accorrding to their understandings.

So, that led me to try to understand why it is that way.

I have asked God to give me some answers and He has.

Mean time, I have learned allot. Including how importnt numbers are in the word of God.

For instance, why ten commandments, and not nine? Why 12 apostles and not 7?

All this questions are for learning more about our maker and pose no threat to our belief in Christ.

For it only gives us a a better understanding into Gods works.

I pose no threat to any of you, catholic or non Catholics.

For all that I say only glorifies God's wonderful works.

It does not distablize my current belief in Christ as my Savior, but in fact gives me great appreciaion for His works on the cross.

Please do not rush to any judgments, but consider them carefully, and let the holy Spirit guide you to undersanding.
Peace>>>AJ

April 9th, 2007, 02:37 AM

Though you say that those 73 books are allegory and metaphors, there still exists the divine plan for the creation of the flesh, the destruction of the flesh and the salvation of the soul of the flesh.

It is all set in such a way that we have to learn what those things are. And upon learning them we can come to an understanding of how great, glorious and mighty loving God we have.

The bible is a great puzzle and to those who would concern themselves with studying it, not for selfish reasons, but for reasons of interest in the works of God, would find a great many blessings.

If anything, my presence here would cause many of you to search out to see if what I say has any truth to it.
I therefore welcome the discussions.
Peace>>>AJ

April 9th, 2007, 02:57 AM

How about the number 360? Would not the number 12 fit perfectly into 360?

Jesus/God, is complete, whole, or as one. 360 is a whole circle, one circle and is divided, by 3: Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and has 12 apostles in completing the whole.

I mean, those were just a few numbers that would indicate a divine connection, won’t you think?
12 months in a year, 365 days in a year, 7 day in a week are all indicatives of some structured plan that could only mean there is a higher intelligence, wouldn’t you think so?

I really don’t need numbers to lead me to believe in God , but they do explain allot of questions I had about His work.

It is just awesome how great a mathematician the Lord God is. And to think that He would explain some of it to me with a pea brain, is just to wonderful to take.

So, I thank Him constantly and love Him even the more.
Peace>>>AJ