#1
Scary Bible Quotes
Dec 31st, 2006
Here is the best one:
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
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Scary Bible Quotes (Scary Bible Quotes)
Here is the best one:
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
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#2
Scary Bible Verses
Dec 31st, 2006
We have had previous discussions on this forum about that subject. Problems can arise when quotes are made out of context as was done in that site and has been done previously in discussions about the Koran. A better way to discuss seemingly 'scary' passages is to do so in full context so that meanings can be explored and utilized in more rational and peaceful manners.
#3
Disturbing Bible Quotes
Jan 1st, 2007
Generally you're right, gopher, the Bible and the Koran are sufficiently large and complex documents that you can find support in them for any position you'd care to take if you pay no attention to context. But one of the difficulties with those lists of prescribed and proscribed behaviours that we find in Leviticus and Deuteronomy is that they have no context in that sense, they're just lists of rules with no connection to each other, they stand or fall on their own. A lot of them are pretty barbaric in contemporary terms, and while some of them, like the rules against eating pork and shellfish, might have made sense in the context of a tribal desert culture with no real knowledge of disease or hygiene as we currently understand them, a lot of them seem to be purely barbaric, quite apart from the legal trouble you'd be in if you followed them now. I don't think anybody would seriously suggest we should stone adulterers to death, for instance, though the OT's pretty clear about that: we should. We should also stone to death our "stubborn and rebellious sons," and kill people who plant two different crops in the same field, or wear clothing made of more than one kind of fibre. It's hard to see any sense in those, and there are no mitigating passages around them that'd help us make sense of them, they're just listed without explanation as things we should do.
All of which adds up to the fact that nobody, not even the most doctrinaire Christian, really uses the Bible as the source of morality and ethics. People pick and choose what suits current social conditions and their own particular agenda, and any Biblically based ethics are thus just post hoc rationalizations.
All of which adds up to the fact that nobody, not even the most doctrinaire Christian, really uses the Bible as the source of morality and ethics. People pick and choose what suits current social conditions and their own particular agenda, and any Biblically based ethics are thus just post hoc rationalizations.
#4
Scary Quotes From The Bible
Mar 2nd, 2007
Although I agree...I think it is fair to say that some do, very much, stand on their own, and are, indeed, very scary quotes...and, if people say that they must stick to the letter of the bible to preserve traditional marriage, and yet, cast many of these lines and rules aside...well...why? It shows that the bible is a book where people pick and choose what they want to follow and what they don't. If people followed some of the stuff mentioned in those lines...well...we'd have a very different society, and the catholic church would be very different from what it is today.
#5
Mar 2nd, 2007
For once I agree with gopher.
These things can't be taken out of context like some people like to do.
These things can't be taken out of context like some people like to do.
#6
Mar 2nd, 2007
[quote=CanadienA1;762047]These quotes from the bible are very interesting. Let's hope our fanatic-religious leaders are not following everything said on the bible
Here is the best one:
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
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In concert with the whole entire bible, that verse reveals who Jesus is! He is the first of which we all are second after Him.
That is not scary, but thank God for that because now we all have hope.
Peace>>>AJ
Here is the best one:
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
--]
In concert with the whole entire bible, that verse reveals who Jesus is! He is the first of which we all are second after Him.
That is not scary, but thank God for that because now we all have hope.
Peace>>>AJ
#7
Mar 3rd, 2007
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467
Second? Sounds like we're all hopelessly dead last compared to Jesus. It clearly says no one's ever gone to Heaven but him. I'd agree it's not scary, but that's only because I think it's fiction.[In concert with the whole entire bible, that verse reveals who Jesus is! He is the first of which we all are second after Him.
That is not scary, but thank God for that because now we all have hope.
#8
Mar 3rd, 2007
Well, the bible has no end of concepts with gaping holes in them. S'why I call it the holey Bible.
#9
Mar 3rd, 2007
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
Was hopelessly dead! But becuase of Jesus being the first man to enter heaven, we now all have hope.Second? Sounds like we're all hopelessly dead last compared to Jesus. It clearly says no one's ever gone to Heaven but him. I'd agree it's not scary, but that's only because I think it's fiction.
You and I are both equal in His site.
Peace>>>AJ
+1
#10 Top Rated PostMar 3rd, 2007
Quote: Originally Posted by L Gilbert
Yes, loop holes! Some folks that's all they look for. As for me, I find it the information source of my salvation.Well, the bible has no end of concepts with gaping holes in them. S'why I call it the holey Bible.
Peace>>>AJ
#11
Mar 17th, 2007
I find this a little disturbing.
In the OT sin is defined as being an act, you had to 'physically do something', punishment was loss of life. Thankfully the punishment changed, but so did what would be considered as committing a sin.
Our thoughts alone now put us in sin.
M't:5:27:
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time,
Thou shalt not commit adultery:
M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The above is about adultery, it would also apply to everything else that is considered to be a sin.
Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.
It is certainly easier to not physically sin that it is to 'think of something that is a sin'. I find that a little 'scary'.
In the OT sin is defined as being an act, you had to 'physically do something', punishment was loss of life. Thankfully the punishment changed, but so did what would be considered as committing a sin.
Our thoughts alone now put us in sin.
M't:5:27:
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time,
Thou shalt not commit adultery:
M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The above is about adultery, it would also apply to everything else that is considered to be a sin.
Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.
It is certainly easier to not physically sin that it is to 'think of something that is a sin'. I find that a little 'scary'.
#12
Mar 17th, 2007
Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
The point is that we had no possible way of gaining salvation because the law condemned us at every turn. Even with our minds we sinned as though we had actually broken the law.I find this a little disturbing.
In the OT sin is defined as being an act, you had to 'physically do something', punishment was loss of life. Thankfully the punishment changed, but so did what would be considered as committing a sin.
Our thoughts alone now put us in sin.
M't:5:27:
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time,
Thou shalt not commit adultery:
M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
The above is about adultery, it would also apply to everything else that is considered to be a sin.
Jas:2:8:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself,
ye do well:
Jas:2:9:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.
It is certainly easier to not physically sin that it is to 'think of something that is a sin'. I find that a little 'scary'.
So, having said that, there then must be a way out of this mess we were placed in.
There had to be someone, some where at some time come with power over the mind and body, and fulfill the total requirements as expected, we might stand a chance.
And that person did come! That was God Himself in the person of Jesus Christ.
Jesus had power over the mind and the flesh where we didn’t because He was born of God, while we were born of the flesh. Adam.
Jesus was born of the (Adam) flesh as well as of the spirit. (God) Making Him the second Adam.
He Jesus took the penalty of separation (death) away from us and granted us His righteousness for our salvation.
The whole point of the law was to show that mankind could not save self without the help of God.
Even if we followed the Ten Commandments, yet we would offend with our minds.
So the case for salvation was hopeless, until Christ came.
And for that, I am most greatful.
Peace>>>AJ
#13
Mar 17th, 2007
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467
Hi AJ,And that person did come! That was God Himself in the person of Jesus Christ.
Peace>>>AJ
I would agree with most of what you said except for the above.
When Christ returns some of mankind will be with Him for the thousand years. The one that Jesus prayed to is not with man until Judgment Day.
Joh:20:17:
Jesus saith unto her,
Touch me not;
for I am not yet ascended to my Father:
but go to my brethren,
and say unto them,
I ascend unto my Father,
and your Father;
and to my God,
and your God.
Re:21:3:
And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them,
and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them,
and be their God.
Re:21:4:
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes;
and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow,
nor crying,
neither shall there be any more pain:
for the former things are passed away.
Re:21:5:
And he that sat upon the throne said,
Behold,
I make all things new.
And he said unto me,
Write:
for these words are true and faithful.
Re:22:3:
And there shall be no more curse:
but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it;
and his servants shall serve him:
Re:22:4:
And they shall see his face;
and his name shall be in their foreheads.
Of the many verses that are about the relationship between God and Christ none is more descriptive than Proverb:8:23-36.
Later
#14
Jan 3rd, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by CanadienA1
HI, well I think you could counter this by saying, since the second coming hasnt happened yetThese quotes from the bible are very interesting. Let's hope our fanatic-religious leaders are not following everything said on the bible
Here is the best one:
John 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man
--
then its no wonder only Jesus is the only one to go ......so far. You could even say it proves the rest of us
have a shot at it too since its confirmed here that its possible to go for a human, though He was picked up in a craft used by the angels (UFO) so you can get a lot form that one passage if ya read it this way.
#15
Jan 3rd, 2011
This crap was written by a man (probably not a Rhodes Scholar) possibly after an extended session at the local, probably in Sanscrit or Arabic and then translated into English.
+1
#16Jan 3rd, 2011
There are going to be a whole lot of disappointed people when they get to heaven and find out that god is a black woman with a hardon for white racists.
#18
Jan 3rd, 2011
As a thinking freeman I find the entire concept of the Bible, Qur'an, Torah etc very frightening. They prey on the week of mind.
#19
Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
well he isnt the only one actually, check this out. According to the Bible, Enoch and Elijah are the only two people God took to heaven without them dying. -- tells us, "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away." -- tells us, "...suddenly a chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind." Enoch is described as a man who "walked with God for 300 years" (--). Elijah was perhaps the most powerful of God's prophets in the Old Testament. There are also prophecies of Elijah's return (--).Second? Sounds like we're all hopelessly dead last compared to Jesus. It clearly says no one's ever gone to Heaven but him. I'd agree it's not scary, but that's only because I think it's fiction.
#21
Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by eh1eh
I disagree. There are some solid quotes in there.As a thinking freeman I find the entire concept of the Bible, Qur'an, Torah etc very frightening. They prey on the week of mind.
Thou shall not kill.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The foundations of most societies have been built on these books and while some might think the bible, the Koran and Torah are crap or evil. They are an definitive part of the foundations that brought societies together.
Even if you are a non-believer you would have to agree that these books played a significant part in the evolution of man.
The Evolutionist coupled with Creationists. Hmmmmmmm. Man I am gonna get it from both ends now.
#23
Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
Sure it is ignored by droves, but a lot of people adhere to these beliefs, even non believers. I know Thou Shalt Not Kill has been the subject of a lot of controversy.
Medical Science has had its growing pains as well. In the 17th century they considered using a fresh dressing on a wound to be wholly unnecessary and by the 18th century they were using Thousand Island.
#24
Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
True. For better of worse they've been a major influence on humans. Of course they were written with that express purpose. That is the scary part.I disagree. There are some solid quotes in there.
Thou shall not kill.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
The foundations of most societies have been built on these books and while some might think the bible, the Koran and Torah are crap or evil. They are an definitive part of the foundations that brought societies together.
Even if you are a non-believer you would have to agree that these books played a significant part in the evolution of man.
The Evolutionist coupled with Creationists. Hmmmmmmm. Man I am gonna get it from both ends now.
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
Yep. Seems to be up for debate inside religious circles,I know Thou Shalt Not Kill has been the subject of a lot of controversy.
#25
Jan 4th, 2011
I'm thinking more of the people haunted by a lousy translation for murder....
Even MGM associated them with airplanes....
YouTube - ERIC BURDON amp THE ANIMALS- quotSKY PILOTquot LONG VERSION
Even MGM associated them with airplanes....
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#26Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_Soldier
I use creamy cucumber on certain wounds.Sure it is ignored by droves, but a lot of people adhere to these beliefs, even non believers.
Medical Science has had its growing pains as well. In the 17th century they considered using a fresh dressing on a wound to be wholly unnecessary and by the 18th century they were using Thousand Island.
#27
Jan 4th, 2011
The Bible left a lot of things out. It was written at a time when there was in fact a power
struggle within the new religion. We have ended up with the vision of the four winners of
the dispute. Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Sometimes the story does not add up with
a clear vision because each had a different interpretation that was then translated, likely,
from Aramaic. There were other Gospels and they are out there somewhere, likely hidden
in the vault of the Vatican. Timothy, who some say was left wing, and others more than
twenty in all. We are conditioned to believe the only vision is the four book vision its like
having a history book with only 25% of the facts. I personally believe we are dealing with
a political document from a group that was trying to change the society of the time which
was a Fascist power governed from Rome.
These in my view were never to be solely meant as spiritual rantings for a future place in
heaven. Jesus was into producing a future heaven right here on earth free of tyrants.
In its place we saw the church become tyrants and fill the pages with views and visions
that Christ himself never had. The four founders of the faith did the writing not Christ and
that should be remembered as well. Then it was translated and tilted to the view of those
who own the pen and held the power of the land.
The truth is we don't know what the truth is. There are events there that never happened,
there are events that happened just not the way they are depicted in the official account.
Then there are events that happened that are in fact part of the record.
The fact of the matter is we know there has been a whole lot of tampering with the truth
and the facts in general, we also know that many accounts of modern history have been
glossed over,and in some cases rewritten works, so why wouldn't the Bible and even the
Koran be subjected to the same tampering?
Ever notice, when something can't be explained, it is a mystery from God? Why? Because
they don't have an answer, as somewhere the truth has been tampered with and the meaning
is lost. There is truth in it but is it absolute? I don't think so. If people in power use the right
method they can justify anything. Holy Scripture as it were is more about traditions and
customs than it is about Faith. If people knew the truth about heaven, there would be hell to pay.
struggle within the new religion. We have ended up with the vision of the four winners of
the dispute. Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. Sometimes the story does not add up with
a clear vision because each had a different interpretation that was then translated, likely,
from Aramaic. There were other Gospels and they are out there somewhere, likely hidden
in the vault of the Vatican. Timothy, who some say was left wing, and others more than
twenty in all. We are conditioned to believe the only vision is the four book vision its like
having a history book with only 25% of the facts. I personally believe we are dealing with
a political document from a group that was trying to change the society of the time which
was a Fascist power governed from Rome.
These in my view were never to be solely meant as spiritual rantings for a future place in
heaven. Jesus was into producing a future heaven right here on earth free of tyrants.
In its place we saw the church become tyrants and fill the pages with views and visions
that Christ himself never had. The four founders of the faith did the writing not Christ and
that should be remembered as well. Then it was translated and tilted to the view of those
who own the pen and held the power of the land.
The truth is we don't know what the truth is. There are events there that never happened,
there are events that happened just not the way they are depicted in the official account.
Then there are events that happened that are in fact part of the record.
The fact of the matter is we know there has been a whole lot of tampering with the truth
and the facts in general, we also know that many accounts of modern history have been
glossed over,and in some cases rewritten works, so why wouldn't the Bible and even the
Koran be subjected to the same tampering?
Ever notice, when something can't be explained, it is a mystery from God? Why? Because
they don't have an answer, as somewhere the truth has been tampered with and the meaning
is lost. There is truth in it but is it absolute? I don't think so. If people in power use the right
method they can justify anything. Holy Scripture as it were is more about traditions and
customs than it is about Faith. If people knew the truth about heaven, there would be hell to pay.
#28
Jan 4th, 2011
Quote: Originally Posted by look3467
When did the late JC get a site??, and how does one access it??Was hopelessly dead! But becuase of Jesus being the first man to enter heaven, we now all have hope.
You and I are both equal in His site.
Peace>>>AJ
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