Gospel according to Judas

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Gospel according to Judas

Thursday 06 April 2006, 21:35 Makka Time, 18:35 GMT


An ancient manuscript rediscovered after 1,700 years may shed light on the relationship between Jesus and Judas, the disciple said to have betrayed him.

Rather than the traitor as Judas is portrayed in the New Testament, The Gospel of Judas indicates that he acted at the request of Jesus to help him shed his earthly body.



Elaine Pagels, a professor of religion at Princeton University, said that "the people who loved, circulated and wrote down these gospels did not think they were heretics".



Terry Garcia, of the National Geographic Society, which made the manuscript public, said it was probably written around AD300 in Coptic script and was a copy of an earlier Greek manuscript.



The manuscript was discovered in
a desert cave in Egypt


The papyrus script, known as a codex, was found in the desert in Egypt in the 1970s and has now been authenticated by carbon dating and studied and translated by biblical scholars, National Geographic announced.



Garcia said: "The codex has been authenticated as a genuine work of ancient Christian apocryphal literature on five fronts: radiocarbon dating, ink analysis, multispectral imaging, contextual evidence and paleographic evidence."



Unlike the four gospels in the Bible, this text indicates that Judas betrayed Jesus at Jesus's own request.



The text begins with "the secret account of the revelation that Jesus spoke in conversation with Judas Iscariot".



The key passage comes when Jesus tells Judas: "You will exceed all of them. For you will sacrifice the man that clothed me."



Scholars said this indicates that Judas would help liberate the spiritual self by helping Jesus get rid of his body.



Garcia said the codex "enhances our knowledge of the history and theological viewpoints of the early Christian period".



Manuscript denounced



The manuscript was first mentioned in a treatise in around AD180 by Bishop Irenaeus of Lyon. The bishop denounced the manuscript as differing from mainstream Christianity.



There were several gospels in circulation at the time in addition to the four in the Bible. When those gospels were denounced, it was thought that believers hid them away.



The gospel of Judas was kept by a group called the Gnostics, who believed that the way to salvation was through secret knowledge given by Jesus to his inner circle.



National Geographic said the author of the gospel of Judas believed that Judas Iscariot alone understood the true significance of Christ's teachings.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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It is an interesting suggestion although from what I've seen and heard the documents are not open for public scrutiny and still questionable.

I'll be watching with interest. There is support that Mary Magdalene may not have been a prostitute. The Bible, the Koran all share one common thread. They were written by men and all men have fault.
 

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Retired_Can_Soldier said:
It is an interesting suggestion although from what I've seen and heard the documents are not open for public scrutiny and still questionable.

I'll be watching with interest. There is support that Mary Magdalene may not have been a prostitute. The Bible, the Koran all share one common thread. They were written by men and all men have fault.

There's not only support that Mary Magdalene was not a prostitute, the Catholic church has admitted to falsely labelling her as one. For many years the Catholic church has known this lie was propagated against Mary, but has really done nothing to dispell it, even though they know for a fact it's not true.
 

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darkbeaver said:
Hey RCS I've read in more than one publication that the Magdelene was christs wife.

Even if the speculation that she's Christ's wife is inaccurate, there's no doubt she was probably the closest follower he had. The other disciples complain that Christ is closer to her than any other, and she has her own gospel that is not included in the accepted version of the bible.
 

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Re: RE: Gospel according to J

darkbeaver said:
Hey RCS I've read in more than one publication that the Magdelene was christs wife.

I've read it too, in Holy Blood and Holy Grail, and in The DaVinci Code, though the latter is supposedly a work of fiction. I don't think there's any good evidence either way. The former book develops a detailed conspiracy theory involving Joseph of Arimathea, the Knights Templar, the Masons, and just about everybody, on that assumption, that Jesus and Mary had children, and their bloodline is still extant. The Merovingian dynasty in what is now France, for instance, was supposedly part of it.

More broadly, it's quite interesting to read what have come to be called the gnostic gospels, manuscripts written about the same time the canonical four gospels were, but excluded from the canon. There's a Gospel of Thomas, for instance, and a Gospel of Mary, and a Gospel of Peter, that didn't make it into the New Testament for essentially political reasons. Check out a book called The Laughing Jesus for a good overview.
 

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Then again, there is the question of whether the jesus of the bible even existed, or if he is a fictional character based on a myriad of doomsday prophets running around 2000 years ago.
 

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RE: Gospel according to J

I think he was real but the catholics did a hack job to make him a diety, they didn't get all the heretical manuscripts and they couldn't stop us from learning to read.
 

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"The Bible, the Koran all share one common thread. They were written by men and all men have fault."

There's a few other things in common *smile* The "Golden Rule" is a thread that is sewn through out all the religions. Maybe if we looked for the commonalities we might find true Peace on Earth *wink* And this is coming from a Pagan *smirk*

Theres a wonderful book of fiction that was written by a priest, its called Joshua by Joseph F Girzone. Its a lovely light reading with a punch. Its a story of Jesus coming back to a suburbian township and how he was recieved. Amazing.

Namaste
Tam
 

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Welcome to CC.net!

Welcome to Canadian Content, selfactivated!

If you ever need any assistance, I would be happy to help in whatever way I can; or, you can contact one of our Administrators or Moderators. I agree with your post — we have more in common with persons of other faiths, then we do in contrast, and I look forward to future insightful posts such as this.

Welcome!
 

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Thank you for the kind words. If anyones interested I have a really nice list of short powerful books from all walks of life. But as you've noted I AM new and Im not quite sure whats acceptable on a political forum :)

Namaste
Tam