True to His Word, MHz, God is not moved so much by the form and content of our prayers, but by the posture of the heart that offers them.
Sorry it took so long to reply. The point I was trying to make is that if the Bible gives us one prayer as the opening to our pleas and confessions does using a modification ruin that simple pathy as well as put the speaker into the realm of 'vain repetitions, simply becaise if the plea is ignored when using the Lord's Prayer then it would certainly be ignored as it doesn't have the proper beginning so it is not a prayer meant for God in the first place. All the big Churches use modifications that make their motion seem quite occultish.
M't:6:5-8:
And when thou prayest,
thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are:
for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets,
that they may be seen of men.
Verily I say unto you,
They have their reward.
But thou,
when thou prayest,
enter into thy closet,
and when thou hast shut thy door,
pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
But when ye pray,
use not vain repetitions,
as the heathen do:
for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
Be not ye therefore like unto them:
for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of,
before ye ask him.
This is the bigger reasom I mentioned anything at all. To offer a prayer that doesn't get fulfilled is of what use to anybody? It certainly doesn't help the person and how could the person saying the prayer walk away feeling good when the words did nothing to change anything.
Jas:2:15-17:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.
I wouldn't argue against a prayer being needed before a Gentile is counted as being in the temple in Re:11 as that covers the tribulation mentioned in De:4:30 and that prophecy is for private prayer between you and God. Praying for others might sound very Christian but the best advert would be you praying for yourself and some results happen. At the same time praying for something stupid just means your understanding is less than it could be. Gopfer wants a rich wife, if God made him so poor that a poor woman he knows today would appear to be rich in his eyes. Would he really want God to grant that wish (rather than oit being a prayer)?
If you didn;t know who the last to be given a penny in that parable world God help you if you asked for help? That is something I would think God would help you with. (rather than preventing death or growing a new limb type of prayers) God giving Goper a rich wife would be God giving her a thorn in her side for being rich in the first place, humble would take less than 5 minutes.
