Political Compass

mentalfloss
#1
I did a search and didn't find anything. Anyway, I thought this would be the perfect forum for this, as we have so many people proclaiming themselves to be right, left, inside and out. This is by no means, definitive, but try it anyway.

The Political Compass - Test



Here's my result:






About The Political Compass™

In the introduction, we explained the inadequacies of the traditional left-right line.
If we recognise that this is essentially an economic line it's fine, as far as it goes. We can show, for example, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung and Pol Pot, with their commitment to a totally controlled economy, on the hard left. Socialists like Mahatma Gandhi and Robert Mugabe would occupy a less extreme leftist position. Margaret Thatcher would be well over to the right, but further right still would be someone like that ultimate free marketeer, General Pinochet.
That deals with economics, but the social dimension is also important in politics. That's the one that the mere left-right scale doesn't adequately address. So we've added one, ranging in positions from extreme authoritarian to extreme libertarian.
Both an economic dimension and a social dimension are important factors for a proper political analysis. By adding the social dimension you can show that Stalin was an authoritarian leftist (ie the state is more important than the individual) and that Gandhi, believing in the supreme value of each individual, is a liberal leftist. While the former involves state-imposed arbitrary collectivism in the extreme top left, on the extreme bottom left is voluntary collectivism at regional level, with no state involved. Hundreds of such anarchist communities exisited in Spain during the civil war period
You can also put Pinochet, who was prepared to sanction mass killing for the sake of the free market, on the far right as well as in a hardcore authoritarian position. On the non-socialist side you can distinguish someone like Milton Friedman, who is anti-state for fiscal rather than social reasons, from Hitler, who wanted to make the state stronger, even if he wiped out half of humanity in the process.
The chart also makes clear that, despite popular perceptions, the opposite of fascism is not communism but anarchism (ie liberal socialism), and that the opposite of communism ( i.e. an entirely state-planned economy) is neo-liberalism (i.e. extreme deregulated economy)
The usual understanding of anarchism as a left wing ideology does not take into account the neo-liberal "anarchism" championed by the likes of Ayn Rand, Milton Friedman and America's Libertarian Party, which couples social Darwinian right-wing economics with liberal positions on most social issues. Often their libertarian impulses stop short of opposition to strong law and order positions, and are more economic in substance (ie no taxes) so they are not as extremely libertarian as they are extremely right wing. On the other hand, the classical libertarian collectivism of anarcho-syndicalism ( libertarian socialism) belongs in the bottom left hand corner.
In our home page we demolished the myth that authoritarianism is necessarily "right wing", with the examples of Robert Mugabe, Pol Pot and Stalin. Similarly Hitler, on an economic scale, was not an extreme right-winger. His economic policies were broadly Keynesian, and to the left of some of today's Labour parties. If you could get Hitler and Stalin to sit down together and avoid economics, the two diehard authoritarians would find plenty of common ground.



Now you know where you are on The Political Compass™, you might like to explore the ideas of those with similar (or wildly differing) views on our Reading List.
A Word about Neo-cons and Neo-libs

U.S.neo-conservatives, with their commitment to high military spending and the global assertion of national values, tend to be more authoritarian than hard right. By contrast, neo-liberals, opposed to such moral leadership and, more especially, the ensuing demands on the tax payer, belong to a further right but less authoritarian region. Paradoxically, the "free market", in neo-con parlance, also allows for the large-scale subsidy of the military-industrial complex, a considerable degree of corporate welfare, and protectionism when deemed in the national interest. These are viewed by neo-libs as impediments to the unfettered market forces that they champion.


International Chart

A diverse professional team has assessed the words and actions of internationally known contemporary leaders to give you an idea of how they relate to each other on the political compass.

We regret the present exclusion of some major leaders, especially in the developing world. This is due to our inability so far to contact independent experts.
 
lone wolf
Free Thinker
#2
Oh boy! This was fun last time....


 
mentalfloss
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Oh boy! This was fun last time....

You are the Ghandi to my Dhalai Lama.
 
YukonJack
Conservative
#4
Pope Benedict XVI and Robert Mugabe in the same quadrant places the veracity of this test in great jeopardy.
 
karrie
No Party Affiliation
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

Pope Benedict XVI and Robert Mugabe in the same quadrant places the veracity of this test in great jeopardy.


Not liking similarities between people you like and people you don't isn't really grounds enough to discredit something, so how has one or the other been improperly placed?
 
TenPenny
#6
Quote:

Pope Benedict XVI and Robert Mugabe in the same quadrant places the veracity of this test in great jeopardy.

Only for people who don't know anything about them.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#7
 
AnnaG
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Not liking similarities between people you like and people you don't isn't really grounds enough to discredit something, so how has one or the other been improperly placed?

No answer.
Maybe if I asked the question, too?

So, Jack, how is the accuracy of the political compass in error concerning Mugabe and the pope?

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I did a search and didn't find anything. Anyway, I thought this would be the perfect forum for this, as we have so many people proclaiming themselves to be right, left, inside and out. This is by no means, definitive, but try it anyway.

The Political Compass - Test



Here's my result:





The last time I did this I showed to be not quite as libertarian as you and a little more centrist. I think I was about 2 west and about 4 south.
 
YukonJack
Conservative
#9
"So, Jack, how is the accuracy of the political compass in error concerning Mugabe and the pope?"

So, AnnaG, how is the accuracy of the political compass NOT in error concerning Mugabe and the Pope?
 
JLM
No Party Affiliation
#10
Economic Left/Right: -4.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.62



I wouldn't have thunk it
 
AnnaG
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

"So, Jack, how is the accuracy of the political compass in error concerning Mugabe and the pope?"

So, AnnaG, how is the accuracy of the political compass NOT in error concerning Mugabe and the Pope?

Karrie and I asked you first.
 
Ron in Regina
Free Thinker
#12
how left/right wing are you?

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/me...t-wingnut.html

There are others....but I've got to run. Here's a couple of Threads where this Compass was
play'd with.....
 
AnnaG
+1
#13
Mugabe is obviously a bit of a socialist (left-wing) and an authoritarian.

The pope is obviously left-wing (you can judge by his encyclical called "Charity in Truth". If you take a look at his activities concerning the RCC, particularly his reformation of the Curia, you'll notice he's a bit authoritarian, as well.

I think what is in question is your ability to understand what "left-wing" and "authoritarian" mean.
 
Tonington
#14
Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67




Not much has changed since the last time, though the first time I took the quiz, I was one square further in the Libertarian direction, and two squares further to the left. Which really isn't a huge change.
 
karrie
No Party Affiliation
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaGView Post

Mugabe is obviously a bit of a socialist (left-wing) and an authoritarian.

The pope is obviously left-wing (you can judge by his encyclical called "Charity in Truth". If you take a look at his activities concerning the RCC, particularly his reformation of the Curia, you'll notice he's a bit authoritarian, as well.

I think what is in question is your ability to understand what "left-wing" and "authoritarian" mean.

Apparently he has no basis for why it's wrong?
 
AnnaG
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -1.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.67




Not much has changed since the last time, though the first time I took the quiz, I was one square further in the Libertarian direction, and two squares further to the left. Which really isn't a huge change.

Hey! You moved into my spot. Now I gotta see where you bumped me to.

Well. I stayed pretty much the same level of libertarian but shifted a smidgeon to the left.

Economic Left/Right: -3.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.69






Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Apparently he has no basis for why it's wrong?

Why'm I not surprised? hehehe
 
Bar Sinister
No Party Affiliation
#17
I always find this test interesting simply because the questions are changed every few years to reflect current trends. Now, can someone tell me how to post the graph?

I am Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72
 
Dexter Sinister
No Party Affiliation
+2
#18  Top Rated Post
And how many of us, I wonder, don't think deep down in our heart of hearts that anybody who seriously disagrees with us is either deeply wrong or doesn't understand the issues.
 
CDNBear
#19
The Political Compass


Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44




That might surprise a few people. Seems I'm hanging out in the same neighbourhood as Nelson Mandela, The Dali Lama and Gandhi.

LOL.
 
Tonington
#20
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

The Political Compass


Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44




That might surprise a few people. Seems I'm hanging out in the same neighbourhood as Nelson Mandela, The Dali Lama and Gandhi.

LOL.


You're the hippy! Don't go all Dipper crazy on us.
 
Nuggler
#21
[QUOTE=CDNBear;1306525]The Political Compass


Economic Left/Right: -5.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.44




That might surprise a few people. Seems I'm hanging out in the same neighbourhood as Nelson Mandela, The Dali Lama and Gandhi.LOL.[/QUOTE



Me too, Bear. Surprised the hell outa me. I'd say we're in good company...............well, sorta.
 
Tonington
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

Now, can someone tell me how to post the graph?

I am Economic Left/Right: -5.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.72

I just right clicked on view image, and then copied the url to post here. If you view my URL, there is a spot where you can change the coordinates, yours looks like this:

 
CDNBear
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

You're the hippy! Don't go all Dipper crazy on us.

You should see my pot farm on FaceBook!!!

3 lots, an A Frame, a hot tub, two dogs, 126,000 in coins and 25 pot bucks, with a full crop of Maui Waui due in, in about 8 hours. Virtual hippy life is good.

It's amazing how perspectives shape things eh? I'm more left than you, but I see you as more left then me, lol. And I'm pretty sure you see me as more right than you too.

Quote: Originally Posted by NugglerView Post

Me too, Bear. Surprised the hell outa me. I'd say we're in good company...............well, sorta.

LOL... Ya I heard someone say "There goes the neighbourhood!", when I moved in.
 
Tonington
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You should see my pot farm on FaceBook!!!

3 lots, an A Frame, a hot tub, two dogs, 126,000 in coins and 25 pot bucks, with a full crop of Maui Waui due in, in about 8 hours. Virtual hippy life is good.

It's amazing how perspectives shape things eh? I'm more left than you, but I see you as more left then me, lol. And I'm pretty sure you see me as more right than you too.

I imagine it's my view of economics that pushes me farther to the right. Gotta go to work now...for the big multinational drug corp!
 
CDNBear
+1
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I imagine it's my view of economics that pushes me farther to the right. Gotta go to work now...for the big multinational drug corp!

You work for da MAN, that's why man, now I get it man, you've been conned, you sold out man, you're one of them now man!!!

Picture me saying that like Dennis Hopper, in his character from Apocalypse Now.

Does this mean I can call you a neo con and you can call me a leftard now?


Last edited by CDNBear; Jul 21st, 2010 at 06:14 AM..
 
TenPenny
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I imagine it's my view of economics that pushes me farther to the right. Gotta go to work now...for the big multinational drug corp!

Enjoy the nice day, I'm hanging out this week at CARI, at the McLaughlan Arena, for a hockey school.
 
wulfie68
No Party Affiliation
#27
Economic Left/Right: -2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.18



About where I thought... maybe a little left but not much. I know some of my fluctuations come from how I read some questions (such as the one party state one).
 
CDNBear
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by wulfie68View Post


About where I thought... maybe a little left but not much. I know some of my fluctuations come from how I read some questions (such as the one party state one).

I think my left lean comes from my opinion of corporations, same sex marriage and abortion. Having watched corporation gobble up small companies to make more money and eliminate compilation, I think gay people make good parents, and no one should have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body.
 
wulfie68
No Party Affiliation
+1
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I think my left lean comes from my opinion of corporations, same sex marriage and abortion. Having watched corporation gobble up small companies to make more money and eliminate compilation, I think gay people make good parents, and no one should have the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body.

I'm with you. I tend to be socially liberal and my time in the Alberta Oilpatch has made me a big fan of gov't regulation on things like safety and environmental issues. I'm too aware of the crap that what too many larger corporations will pull when they think no one is watching or will do anything. At the same time I know my authoritarian score goes up because I do believe in the death penalty and that prison is a punishment more than a rehabilitative process.
 
Tonington
+1
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Enjoy the nice day, I'm hanging out this week at CARI, at the McLaughlan Arena, for a hockey school.

'Twas a nice day. I was at Fox Meadows until noon, then had to do real work in the afternoon. Would have preferred outdoor work today. Kinda miss landscaping on days like today.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

You work for da MAN, that's why man, now I get it man, you've been conned, you sold out man, you're one of them now man!!!

Picture me saying that like Dennis Hopper, in his character from Apocalypse Now.

Does this mean I can call you a neo con and you can call me a leftard now?


You don't drive a Volvo now do you?
 

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