Tomorrow is tax freedom day.

taxslave

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The good side of it if things carry on the same there will be lots of new jobs as tax collectors.

Good luck collecting from somebody that is broke and owes more on his house than it is worth.
OTH when you have zilch the government will look after you.
 

Machjo

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I read in the papers today that the government will spend a few more billions on ship-building. Do I get one?

I have nothing against paying my taxes, but I do have an issue with how they're spent.Let's spend that money wisely and not like drunken sailors at a brothel.
 

Bar Sinister

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I am not saying that the numbers are necessarily wrong, but I trust very little that comes from the Fraser Institute. I worked for 40 years before retiring and cannot think of a single year where my taxes approached 40 + percent. I suspect this has much more to do with manipulation of figures that anything else.
 

JLM

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I am not saying that the numbers are necessarily wrong, but I trust very little that comes from the Fraser Institute. I worked for 40 years before retiring and cannot think of a single year where my taxes approached 40 + percent. I suspect this has much more to do with manipulation of figures that anything else.

No B.S. that figure includes ALL the taxes, income tax, property tax, excise taxes, taxes on booze, cigarattes, G.S.T. P.S.T. amusement taxes. NOw if you don't smoke or drink or go to ***** houses your figure may be a couple of points lower.

Good luck collecting from somebody that is broke and owes more on his house than it is worth.
OTH when you have zilch the government will look after you.

And it's getting worse every day. Last night on the news I heard that some jurisdictions are going to allow people (with kids living at home) to defer their property taxes (to have interest charged at the prime rate) . So after 10 years of paying a mortgage and having a couple of thousand of equity in a house that for all we can tell may have deflated in value (I doubt if people who are deferring their mortgage are spending any money on maintenance and repairs) have a $15,000 tax bill. Lovely just f'n lovely. These bastards that think up these schemes are nothing more than common criminals, just as bad as the bastards who give young kids free drugs.
 

AnnaG

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All in all, I don't think we are getting our money's worth. We should fire them on the spot and look for some more sensible people to govern. :D The people can do things like that in Switzerland.
 

JLM

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All in all, I don't think we are getting our money's worth. We should fire them on the spot and look for some more sensible people to govern. :D The people can do things like that in Switzerland.

And you just ain't "Whistlin Dixie" there Annie. It's absolutely impossble to get your money's worth from Gov't, they are a self fulfilling charity organization loaded down with bureaucrats- most of them inept. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

Bar Sinister

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All in all, I don't think we are getting our money's worth. We should fire them on the spot and look for some more sensible people to govern. :D The people can do things like that in Switzerland.


Oh right. Democratic Switzerland which used its democratic system to keep women from voting until 1971, and which recently banned minarets on all mosques.
 

Tonington

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And imaginary balanced budget tax freedom day isn't until June 30... Interesting to me is that Saskatchewan has the latest tax freedom day of all provinces.
 

L Gilbert

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Oh right. Democratic Switzerland which used its democratic system to keep women from voting until 1971, and which recently banned minarets on all mosques.
The women can vote now, can't they? Switzerland progressed past that, why can't you?
The Swiss people decided they didn't want minarets. What is so undemocratic about that? The people got what they wanted and that is the whole idea behind a democracy.

All in all, I don't think we are getting our money's worth. We should fire them on the spot and look for some more sensible people to govern. :D The people can do things like that in Switzerland.
Bump.
 

Bar Sinister

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The women can vote now, can't they? Switzerland progressed past that, why can't you?
The Swiss people decided they didn't want minarets. What is so undemocratic about that? The people got what they wanted and that is the whole idea behind a democracy.

Bump.

I was simply pointing out that "democratic" Switzerland uses its democracy in a somewhat repressive manner. Allowing women the right to vote fifty years after the rest of the world allowed it is hardly democratic. And banning minarets is something seen in no other democratic nation. In case you don't understand it such a ban would be considered a violation of basic rights in Canada and the United States. As for such actions being democratic apparently you do not understand the dangers of the tyranny of the majority.
 

Cliffy

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Ever since I can remember, I have heard talk of a tax revolt. Nothing has ever come of it. Perhaps it is time to bring that subject to the fore front once again. Or are all Canadians so used to being screwed that they would miss it? I guess that nothing will ever come of it until each Canadian's supply of Vaseline runs out.
 

Chev

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If you live in Edmonton it will be more like the middle of July for the next several years before tax freedom day at the rate city council is going.
 

AnnaG

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I was simply pointing out that "democratic" Switzerland uses its democracy in a somewhat repressive manner.
So? It's still as close to a direct democracy than anything else in the world and through that, the citizens keep themselves content. Some other country's citizens using direct democracy may allow goats to vote and allow nothing but minarets. It makes no difference. The purpose of a direct democracy is to make its peoples happy, however they want to be happy. What they are happy about is irrelevant.
Allowing women the right to vote fifty years after the rest of the world allowed it is hardly democratic.
BS. An analogy to your logic would be to say that Germans are Nazis because they were Nazis in the past.
And banning minarets is something seen in no other democratic nation.
So what? What a democratic country does to keep its citizens happy is irrelevant to other countries.
In case you don't understand it such a ban would be considered a violation of basic rights in Canada and the United States. As for such actions being democratic apparently you do not understand the dangers of the tyranny of the majority.
Mob rule is a danger sometimes, so what? Representative democracy also has its downsides, too, such as when it becomes a plutarchy rather than a democracy, as it has in the USA and Canada. If people want to be happy, the direct democracy is the most effective way for them to be happy.
 

dumpthemonarchy

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It took us three days longer this year to pay the annual taxes. That equates to a tax rate of 43.5%

National Post | Canadian News, Financial News and Opinion

The accounting challenged are unable to analyse their own paycheque. Individual, real human people don't pay anywhere near this rate. Sorry, you don't appear to have a clue.

You see, the National Post are corporate robots, whatever business wants, they believe at the NP that business should get. They are hysterics at the NP. Watch porn instead instead of reading that waste of trees.
 

JLM

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The accounting challenged are unable to analyse their own paycheque. Individual, real human people don't pay anywhere near this rate. Sorry, you don't appear to have a clue.

You see, the National Post are corporate robots, whatever business wants, they believe at the NP that business should get. They are hysterics at the NP. Watch porn instead instead of reading that waste of trees.

Maybe but their figures coincides almost exactly with what they take from me personally. Just taking gasoline, what percentage of the price includes taxes?

The accounting challenged are unable to analyse their own paycheque. Individual, real human people don't pay anywhere near this rate. Sorry, you don't appear to have a clue.

You see, the National Post are corporate robots, whatever business wants, they believe at the NP that business should get. They are hysterics at the NP. Watch porn instead instead of reading that waste of trees.

Here's an eye opener for you.............Gasoline taxes Across Canada - Petro-Canada
 

dumpthemonarchy

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Maybe but their figures coincides almost exactly with what they take from me personally. Just taking gasoline, what percentage of the price includes taxes?

Here's an eye opener for you.............Gasoline taxes Across Canada - Petro-Canada

You're still wrong.

Corporations need high taxes because they don't need medical care or a decent education system. These things cost money and we have to spend tax money on them.
 

Cliffy

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