Tory G8 abortion stance

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

I'm not clear on the statement in the O.P., or it's LINK, so here's my question:

The Conservative government won't include abortion funding in its maternal
health plan for Canadians while they're visiting developing countries? Is that
what is being stated in the Opening Post?

Or is it that the Canadian Government isn't going to pay for Non-Canadians
around the world to have abortions in other countries than Canada, who have
never paid into the Canadian Tax Base? Is that what is being stated?

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

I'm not clear on the statement in the O.P., or it's LINK, so here's my question:

The Conservative government won't include abortion funding in its maternal
health plan for Canadians while they're visiting developing countries? Is that
what is being stated in the Opening Post?

Or is it that the Canadian Government isn't going to pay for Non-Canadians
around the world to have abortions in other countries than Canada, who have
never paid into the Canadian Tax Base? Is that what is being stated?

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Hi Ron as I understand it, the Canadian Government refuses to help any other Nation to fund abortions.
And that being the case, it brings the Conservatives under the hypocritical light.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

If the present Canadian Government helps other countries on disasters like the 2010 Haiti earthquake and other places where disaster has struck, Abortion in undeveloped countries kills 70.000 women every year, they are humans too. But the G8 have realised the hypocrisy of the Canadian Government. For votes we help on a subject we are deep inside against.

Quote: Originally Posted by Slim Chance

Like Ron pointed out, the Canadian government doesn't tax the hell out of the people in any other nation either... Are the Conservatives hypocrites for that too?




The corrupt governments in those countries are the problem, not the lack of abortions.

What's next for you; gonna whine the Harper government is discriminating against Iranians because they aren't getting pensions or old age security from the Canadian government?

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeper

Déja-Vu

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Get real with your crap,, don't compare elephants with flies. Had the abortion issue been one in Canada that has no votes behind it the hypocrites would have never even talk about abortion in Canada.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Who is talking about other countries with stupid tax laws, who is talking about Iran? We are talking about 70.000 women a year who die in the hands of people who are dictators and extreme right wing.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Just remember the Conservatives hate abortion.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Hi Ron as I understand it, the Canadian Government refuses to help any other Nation to fund abortions.
And that being the case, it brings the Conservatives under the hypocritical light.

Sure, the argument can be why should we help other countries on something we do not believe in.
But, they believe helping Canadian abortions because of the fact that it spells votes or if they don't it will spell political suicied here at home. When in fact helping other countries there is no votes to garner.

If the present Canadian Government helps other countries on disasters like the 2010 Haiti earthquake and other places where disaster has struck, Abortion in undeveloped countries kills 70.000 women every year, they are humans too. But the G8 have realised the hypocrisy of the Canadian Government. For votes we help on a subject we are deep inside against.

Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorter

Religious right is an important part of conservative base, so is Alberta. Both are strongly against all abortions, their ultimate aim is to ban all abortion in Canada.

That aim remains elusive. As a start they want to deny money to women in the poor, third world countries to get abortions.

This is a purely ideological position, purely religious position, nothing more. But it really exposes the true agenda of Harper. If he does get the majority, will he try to ban all abortions in Canada? It is quite likely, in my opinion. Paul Martin may well have been on to something when he talked of the ‘hidden agenda’ of Conservatives.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

To me women dieing is not a hate fest, but rather the ones who let women die because abortion puts their nose out of joint are the true source of haters.

Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorter

Religious right is an important part of conservative base, so is Alberta. Both are strongly against all abortions, their ultimate aim is to ban all abortion in Canada.

That aim remains elusive. As a start they want to deny money to women in the poor, third world countries to get abortions.

This is a purely ideological position, purely religious position, nothing more. But it really exposes the true agenda of Harper. If he does get the majority, will he try to ban all abortions in Canada? It is quite likely, in my opinion. Paul Martin may well have been on to something when he talked of the ‘hidden agenda’ of Conservatives.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

To me women dieing is not a hate fest, but rather the ones who let women die because abortion puts their nose out of joint are the true source of haters.

Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack

Why should Canada pay for abortions even in Canada?

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Had the abortion issue been one in Canada that has no votes behind it, the hypocrites would have never even talk about abortion in Canada. But hey, at times of desperation to stay in power we will pretend we are open minded.

Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJack

Why should Canada pay for abortions even in Canada?

Quote: Originally Posted by jjaycee98

NEWS flash
I live in Alberta.
I am a staunch Conservative supporter both with my vote, my cash and contributing to opinion polls, and letting my MP know where I stand on every issue.
I strongly support a Woman's right of choice.
Unless we are going to open Abortion Clinics in Somalia, Ethiopia and everywhere else, and supply them with Doctors to perform the Surgeries, this is totally a non-issue.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Had the abortion issue been one in Canada that has no votes behind it, the hypocrites would have never even talk about abortion in Canada. But hey, at times of desperation to stay in power we will pretend we are open minded.

Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek

Canada's position against funding abortions abroad is 'hypocritical and unjust,' a medical journal editorial says.

"The Canadian Government does not deprive women living in Canada from access to safe abortions; it is therefore hypocritical and unjust that it tries to do so abroad," the Lancet says in an editorial Saturday.

CBC News - Health - Tory G8 abortion stance unjust: journal

The reason why Harper's Conservatives will not support funding abortions abroad is simple.


The Conservatives are deep inside antiabortion, and are funding abortions here at home to stop the sceptics and get votes, to the Conservatives votes mean more then their philosophical view on Abortion although (secret religious beliefs) is the cause for this hypocrisy. Hypocritical in the most transparent way.