On a side issue where is Old Yukon Jack these days???????????
A baby is very much human. Were you human when you were a baby?
Is he one now?
And you liberals are always trying to push your views on everyone else. Isn't that a coincidence?
'Kill' is a matter of opinion. I don't think abortion kills a human being. Nobody can prove that it does.
I have raised the same issue before. If pro lifers are so concerned about the fetus (which I don’t think they are, to them, banning abortion is just another way of oppressing women), they should demand that every miscarriage be thoroughly investigated to see if women, doctor, nursing staff etc. was in any way responsible and charges should be filed against those who were responsible.
They should demand that miscarried fetus should be given proper funeral, burial service, with a proper casket and everything. Are they demanding that such a law be passed? No. Or forget about the law, do pro lifers do this voluntarily for any miscarriage pro life women may have? Do they take the miscarried fetus to a funeral home? Again, no.
Nowhere is the pro life hypocrisy so evidence as in the issue of miscarriage.
Quite so. If the law did not penalize anybody for miscarriage (when abortion was illegal), then the law was an ass. Fetus was treated as a human being when it was aborted, but not as one when it was miscarried. It was an unjust, hypocritical law, and Supreme Court was well advised to scrap it.
It is not OK to kill, abortion does not kill any human being.
Actually, BUMBLE bee, there are real people who actually care about life in whatever form it is in. Apparently the only one you care about is yours. As wifey says, that's very sad.
Why would they unless they'd already had named it? Some don't even want to know what gender their child is until they see him/her.
Strawman.
Unf'nbelievable. Do you ever listen to yourself? THINK, if you can;
abortion = In medicine, an abortion is the premature exit of the products of conception (the fetus, fetal membranes, and placenta) from the uterus. It is the loss of a pregnancy and does not refer to why that pregnancy was lost.
Miscarriage = Inadvertent loss of a pregnancy before the fetus is viable. A considerable proportion of pregnancies end in a --.
I bolded the key word there to give you a clue.
You can't see a difference?
rofl. So you are saying that zygotes, embryos etc. are dead? How can you kill dead things?
'Kill' is a matter of opinion. I don't think abortion kills a human being. Nobody can prove that it does.
The fetus is a human being but is not a legal person.
You've really got to learn that once and for all. But that is irrelevant when it comes to legal OPINIONS and reality. Reality says a baby lost it's life not a human being or a legal person buut a wee little defenseless baby.
They start as goats?
As AnnaG always says to me: where did you get that definition from?
Fetus at 11 weeks:
Fetus at 18 weeks:
Fetus at 25 weeks:
Careful Les, you are going to get the "ignore" switch flicked on you..........
Maybe one day he'll turn around and see me rofllmao at him.Les, lets use the miscarriage topic and relate it to the right to life argument. Approximately 1 in 300-400 amnio procedures result in miscarriage of viable pregnancies (or perhaps 1 in 200 with a CVS procedure). Would our society allow for a doctor to perform a routine regular examination of a delivered baby whereby by the examination procedure resulted in death of every 1 in 300-400? Of course not. If a fetus had the same rights as any delivered human then they would require protection from more than just abortion. Everything about prenatal care would need to change. If not, it's an admission that there is in fact a big difference between the rights of the born and the unborn.
Humanity ought to grant a fetus the rights of common sense.
Common sense would dictate to me that punching a woman's pregnancy to death means you've done something beyond just punch her, and you know it. It would dictate that you are, indeed, one of the mentally unbalanced, the cruel, the unusual, that we do not want walking amongst the general population, and ought to be sentenced in that light. I don't care how law classifies it.
Common sense.
Looks pretty human to me. I think his nibs has got about 45 years of catching up to do.
You won't find much common sense when people are arguing about abortion.
It goes the the heart of many people's beliefs, and therefore many people become irrational.
I figure that if people want to have an abortion, they should be permitted to do so. End of story. I don't gussy it up with arguments about when life starts, etc, those arguments, while interesting, have nothing to do with abortion rights. In my opinion.
You won't find much common sense when people are arguing about abortion.
It goes the the heart of many people's beliefs, and therefore many people become irrational.
I figure that if people want to have an abortion, they should be permitted to do so. End of story. I don't gussy it up with arguments about when life starts, etc, those arguments, while interesting, have nothing to do with abortion rights. In my opinion.
just felt since some people keep grasping at straws of absurdity, I'd bump this.
If only people had a smidgen of common sense.