Are Sikh Terror Groups on the rise within Canada.

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Are Sikh Terror Groups on the rise within Canada.

In my opinion Yes -
And many Politicians refuse to confront it face on -
All parties should be united against the glorification of violence.

April is the most important month on the Sikh calendar. In British Columbia, it's a time for celebration and fights.

It's been no different this year. In B.C.'s lower mainland, home to half of Canada's Sikh population, a traditional harvest and religious festival called Vaisakhi was again marred by factional bickering, threats and finger-pointing inside the Sikh and Indo-Canadian communities. Anger and recrimination spilled into the mainstream as well.

It's all based on misunderstandings and confusion, say some prominent Sikhs. No, says Ujjal Dosanjh, it's far worse than that. The tumult around the Vaisakhi parade that took place last weekend in Surrey, near Vancouver, sprang from Sikh extremism and a "glorification of violence," insists the Liberal MP for Vancouver South. Mr. Dosanjh blames political correctness and a very Canadian fear of offending others for allowing these elements to flourish. And he says he's sick of it.

Born in Punjab, India, to Sikh parents, Mr. Dosanjh is now a secular Canadian; as such, he is considered a "sell-out" by some fundamentalist Sikhs in this country and he has been attacked for his mainstream views. In 1985, he was assaulted outside his Vancouver law office by a suspected Sikh extremist. Three months later Air-India Flight 182 was blown up and all 329 people on board died.

This week, Mr. Dosanjh was slandered and threatened in Facebook entries for denouncing what he labels Sikh extremism. This after the veteran politician was caught up in more religious-based controversy.

One day before Surrey's Vaisakhi festival, an event organizer singled out Mr. Dosanjh and B.C. MLA Dave Hayer. Declared as undesirables and unwelcome, they would be "responsible for their own safety and security" if they chose to drop in, the organizer told a Punjabi-language radio station.

Fat chance; neither politician was disposed to show up. In fact, says Mr. Dosanjh, he has never attended a Vaisakhi parade in Surrey. "There is a parade in my home riding in Vancouver and I always try to attend that," he said in an interview yesterday. "I don't want to associate with a parade that carries violent messages.

"Surprisingly, this is atypical. Politicians of all stripes glad-hand at the Surrey celebrations. Last week's event was attended by local Conservative MPs Nina Grewal and Donna Cadman. Liberal MP Sukh Dhaliwal was front and centre, one point taking centre stage and addressing the throng. There was also "a flood of NDP MLAs" in attendance, according to one Sikh observer.

But other politicians, including B.C. Premier Gordon Campbell, declined to attend, citing the implied threats directed at Mr. Dosanjh and Mr. Hayer.

The premier has avoided Surrey's Vaisakhi before. Mr. Campbell skipped the parade in 2008, thanks to a deeply troubling incident from the previous year. Parade organizers had presented a float bearing portraits of alleged Sikh terrorists, "martyred" members of a violent faction that advocates the creation of a separate Sikh homeland in India called Khalistan.

The pro-Khalistan movement is all but dead in India, where Hindus and the Sikh and Muslim minorities are learning to get along, and where a Sikh man is now prime minister. But cells are active in other countries with large Sikh populations, most prominently Canada.

"It's only in the diaspora where [the pro-Khalistan movement] exists," says Mr. Dosanjh. "That's because we have allowed it, without challenging it. There is a significant minority here that is obsessively focused on it and it's passing down generations, which is something reflected in the Facebook group [that attacked him this week].

"In Surrey, Sikh extremism is represented in certain temples, and even in schools. Following the 2008 Vaisakhi festival, some 15 Sikh students showed up for classes at Princess Margaret Secondary School in Surrey wearing t-shirts bearing pro-Khalistan images and slogans. The students were told to remove the t-shirts; this stirred cries of "censorship."

Far more worrisome, say some Sikh moderates, is the blatant pro-Khalistan allegiance demonstrated by the conservative Dasmesh Darbar temple in Surrey. The temple promotes an activist agenda; its own website explains the temple was formed in 1998 "to help combat the growing issues affecting the Sikh community both locally and globally."

The temple has organized and hosted Surrey's Vaisakhi celebrations since taking over the event from a more moderate Surrey temple a decade ago. It sponsored the contentious 2007 parade float, and it has flown pro-Khalistan banners on its grounds. The Dasmesh Darbar temple was responsible for last week's event. One of its directors made the contentious comments on radio about Mr. Dosanjh and Mr. Hayer.

No one from the temple returned telephone calls this week; the director, Inderjit Singh Bains, did not respond to an interview request.

Meanwhile, Surrey mayor Dianne Watts backpedaled from a blistering attack she directed earlier this week at the Dasmesh Darbar directors. Ms. Watts had said she was promised the temple would not fly pro-Khalistan banners and hang martyr portraits on its parade float, and she maintained she'd been betrayed. "It puts a black mark on the city, a black mark on the community, and a black mark on the event, and that's what I'm upset about," Ms. Watts told an Indo-Canadian radio station on Wednesday.

Yesterday, she said she'd been misinformed, and that, in fact, there were no offensive portraits on the temple float. "I think it's time we moved on," she said in an interview late yesterday. "I think we should focus on what Vaisakhi means." Her new outlook mirrored a press release issued from Surrey city hall. "Vaisakhi is a very important community event,'' it read, "and our goal is to ensure the Vaisakhi celebrations in Surrey are inclusive and welcoming to everybody.

"That's all well and good, says Mr. Dosanjh, but politicians and Sikh leaders have to go further. "We need to have a conversation that is totally free of political correctness,' he says. "We have to be open and blunt about issues around extremism, and about things that have happened in the past and abroad."If that doesn't soon happen, he says, the Sikh community in Canada "will continue to tear itself apart." And others will be caught in the fight.

Khalistan movement stronger in diaspora

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Kudos to Ujjal Dosanjh.....a man I never had much use for......but you have to give credit where credit is due......

I heard Mr. Dosanjh speak on CBC radio, and he absolutely trashed Sikh radicalism in this country.........and anyone that knows anything of the history of violence against those willing to speak out should be stricken with admiration for his boldness in speaking truth.

It is damned hard to believe he is a Liberal MP....but he is!

If I lived in his riding, I might even vote for him.....

............

NAW!!!!

But I am impressed.
 

Twila

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Interesting times in Surrey these days.

I hated watching the news during and after Vasakhi, the politicians would always be there, Carol James, Gordon Cambell wearing their "indian" costumes, shaking hands, attempting to sway indian voters.

Maybe festivals should simply have no "political" involvement for any government or temple politics involved on ANY level.
 

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Interesting times in Surrey these days.

I hated watching the news during and after Vasakhi, the politicians would always be there, Carol James, Gordon Cambell wearing their "indian" costumes, shaking hands, attempting to sway indian voters.

Maybe festivals should simply have no "political" involvement for any government or temple politics involved on ANY level.
There have been news reports of axes, machettes and yes the Religious Icon the Kirpan used. I can hardly wait for the next school to take this all the way to the SCOC with evidence that thy have been used to cause harm. Then more stringent rules will neeedless to say apply - A kirpan without the ability to draw it from its case will no doubt be the result.
 

Twila

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Johnny, when were you here (Surrey) last?

We purchased a townhome in the 'university heights" area, aka whalley almost 6 years ago. Our little street had a couple of houses on it then, but today there are 5 new condo units up and 2 more on the way. Thats only on my block. It's growing here ridiculously fast and the ethnic demographics are changing fast.
 

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i lived off of scott road (the border between delta/surrey), i almost got into it a few times by the newton pool area :).... i aint gonna finger point but i got the wrong feeling alot from the immigrants fresh off the boat there