Canada's Forgotten Founders - The Modern Signifance of the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) .

Canada's Forgotten Founders - The Modern Signifance of the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) ...

- Grace Li Xiu Woo -

The following article by Grace Li Xiu Woo orignally appeared in the electronic law journal Law, Social Justice & Global Development in April 2003. It is a resume of research conducted for a Masters in International Law at the University of Quebec in Montreal.
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'England conquered half the world in successive fits of absence of mind.'Sir John Seeley, Professor of History, Cambridge University 1869 - 1895- Dawson (1937: 196) -

1. Introduction

Countries like Canada that are a product of the colonial process, are faced with a paradox. We have been attempting to reorient our laws to accord with modern equality rights without bothering to reevaluate the way our history was constructed during the age of imperial expansion and aggression. This paper seeks to address some of the resulting ambiguity by raising awareness of one pivotal event. Though omitted from most accounts of the 20th century, it deserves a prominent place in our collective memory, not only because of the light it casts on the development of Canada's national identity, but also because it provides a key to understanding why success eludes our well-meaning attempts to achieve both international peace and a solution for complex Indigenous rights issues.

In 1923 the Haudenosaunee Confederacy applied for membership in the League of Nations[1 (external - login to view)]. Better known to the English as the 'Iroquois Six Nations of Grand River' (now in Ontario), they were driven to take this initiative out of exasperation with the intrusive policies of Canada's Department of Indian Affairs. The Netherlands, Persia, Panama, Estonia and the Republic of Ireland all supported formal consideration of their application -- or at least of the issue of whether or not it was receivable. However, Canadian officials did not want their actions subjected to external review. They were already facing court action for losing over CAD160, 000 of Six Nations trust funds through unauthorized investments[2 (external - login to view)] and they had difficulty finding the evidence they needed to defend the legality of their policies, so they played on popular stereotypes to ridicule the Haudenosaunee claims. Through these means, they were able to engage the intervention of Britain, which was also potentially liable for financial mismanagement[3 (external - login to view)]. The international dominance enjoyed by the British Empire at that time gave it the power needed to pressure Haudenosaunee supporters and prevent formal presentation of the evidence and legal arguments that favoured their claims. As a result, both the Canadian public and the international community were excluded from the decision-making process and this influential Indigenous confederation was denied the opportunity to participate in world affairs on parity with other nations.

The facts surrounding this incident are difficult to untangle from presumptions that are firmly established in our cultural mythology concerning the foundation of both Canada and the modern international order. Those involved -- the coloniser and the colonised -- see each other in such radically different terms that we do not even use the same words to describe our past and present selves. Yet, the perspective of the colonised is confirmed by the coloniser's archival records. In considering the significance of what happened, it is worth remembering that most modern Canadians were born in or immigrated to Canada after the events recounted in this paper took place. We see ourselves as an alternative to the United States and we have few ties to people who can remember that back in the 1920's, the 'Dominion' still held colonial status under English law. In those years, the immigrant majority came predominantly from Britain. As 'loyal subjects', they had no desire to leave the protection of the imperial 'motherland'. Their submissive mind set and hierarchical belief system contrasted sharply with the egalitarian philosophy of the Haudenosaunee, who used archival evidence to substantiate their claim to full independence. As they argued in their petitions, the 'Six Nations' had never been conquered and they had never accepted alien sovereignty. Since the time of first contact, they had always insisted that they were allies, not subjects, of Britain.

Now that British imperialism has faded to a distant memory, scholars are taking a second look at the past. The primacy accorded to equality, both in the field of international human rights and in the Canadian constitution, castes a different light on how the modern world took shape and it appears increasingly likely that we have underestimated the depth of the philosophical conflict involved in early Anglo-Indigenous encounters. The League of Nations incident is just one of many points of cultural collision. Yet, with the perspective afforded by time, the broad significance of the actions taken by Canada's Department of Indian Affairs to depose[4 (external - login to view)] the traditional Haudenosaunee government is becoming increasingly apparent. These events occurred at the very moment when the Dominion of Canada was taking its first tentative steps towards establishing a limited autonomy of its own. And so, in this case at least, self-determination for Canada was achieved, not in cooperation with Indigenous peoples (contrary to Canada, 1993 Partners in Confederation), but rather at the expense of their traditional autonomy.

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An excellent read, if one is so inclined to do so.
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the british owe alot to the iroqious because without them our borders would be very different than they are now..... But that came at a price to the algonquin people to the west, alot got smoked by the confederacy
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the british owe alot to the iroqious because without them our borders would be very different than they are now..... But that came at a price to the algonquin people to the west, alot got smoked by the confederacy

I won't deny that Johnny, I'm living proof of the blood lust warrior type. Being an Onondaga Warrior and all.

I would suggest you take the time to read the full article, it is extremely interesting. Only surpassed by it's length, lol. But seriously, take as long as you need and if you have any questions, feel free to ask me in here or in private.

Assertions such as this, from the article...


The 20th century produced a vast literature struggling with elusive concepts related to the idea of 'nationality' (Dallier & Pellet, 1999) and it was not until 1933 that international law established a positive legal definition for a 'state' (Dallier & Pellet, 1999, ch 1; Harris, 1991, p102; Castel, 1975, p 47). Following Article 1 of the Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States, it is now considered that a 'state' must have a permanent population, a defined territory, a government and the capacity to enter into relations with other states. As a division of the British Empire, Canada's international relations were handled by Britain when the League of Nations was founded and it did not meet these criteria. The Haudenosaunee Confederacy did.

Have far reaching implications. In fact, it may, all though I doubt it, surprise some of the more stalwart bigots on this board.
too long this early in the morning. Will get to it when I get back from work.
Ron in Regina
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too long this early in the morning. Will get to it when I get back from work.

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haha.... Bear, bump it in the afternoon!
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haha.... Bear, bump it in the afternoon!

I will. I sincerely appreciate the interest. This may go a long way to understanding my position and my plight.

I hope it is received with the spirit of understanding that it was intended.
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It is an interesting article Bear. thanks
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It is an interesting article Bear. thanks

Anythime Karrie.

Any thoughts on it?

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