Should the Commonwealth have its own Peace Corps?


View Poll Results: Should the Commonwealth create its own Peace Corp as described in the OP?
Yes. 2 33.33%
No. 4 66.67%
Other answer. 0 0%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

Machjo
#1
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I think the idea of a Peace Corp is a wonderful idea and we could always create something even better than the US Peace Corp (though this still wouldn't change the fact that they can still lay claim to having initiated it).

I could see the establishment of a Commonwealth Peace Corp with a few improvements added. For example, in the Canadian military it is possible to sign a ten year contract whereby the government offers five years of education in exchange for five years of service. A Commonwealth Peace Corp could introduce this added bonus, except that it would be five years of volunteer work instead of paid work like in the military.

A Corp de la Paix de la Francophonie could likewise be created as a francophone parallel organization. What would be your thoughts on this?
 
petros
#2
Sure. We already send consevative dip****s off into the firing line why discount the Liberal dip****s??
 
Machjo
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Sure. We already send consevative dip****s off into the firing line why discount the Liberal dip****s??

Is that a yeah or a nay?
 
petros
#4
How many votes ya got?
 
Machjo
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

How many votes ya got?

Oh please speak in plain English, Master Yoda.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#6
Since the peace dividend realized by the American version has been miserable at best what possible hope could any similar new organization emulating same have of success. Unless you're talking about the covert work. The "common-wealth",jesus how they laugh in the face of the poor. If wealth was common there would be no need of a peace corp.
 
petros
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Oh please speak in plain English, Master Yoda.

If you have all yes votes but no no votes........
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#8
a no vote has just been posted
 
petros
#9
Wasn't me.
 
Machjo
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Since the peace dividend realized by the American version has been miserable at best what possible hope could any similar new organization emulating same have of success. Unless you're talking about the covert work. The "common-wealth",jesus how they laugh in the face of the poor. If wealth was common there would be no need of a peace corp.

Now you're confusing a few things. For one thing, this is not to say that I agree with everything the Commonwealth does, but it could save administrative costs for Commonwealth countries to share a common Peace Corp.

And as for the US Peace Corp, it's not the US military. It's a totally separate entity, and as far as I can tell, it's done much good work internationally. No it's not perfect, but it's not a bad organization overall, though I'd argue that it has not been as fully exploited by the US as it could have been as an opportunity to educate the population, which is why I'd proposed the addition of education in exchange.

So what is it about the US Peace Corp that you're so opposed to?
 
Machjo
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Sure. We already send consevative dip****s off into the firing line why discount the Liberal dip****s??

First off, what makes you think all members of the Peace Corp are liberals. And secondly, calling them 'dip****t' is hardly a standing ovation. So it's natural to take it as sarcasm suggesting you're not too fond of the idea. I did notice the yes vote above, but still this comment doesn't seem to suggest support for it. Instead, it comes across as a sarcastic opposition to the idea, which would seem to contradict the yes vote above, so naturally I was confused.
 
petros
#12
I'm all for sending Canadians around the globe maybe it will wake them up a little. Look it's all throwing good money to clean up the bad. When a Peace Corp has the oomph to change our corporate business practices while abroad and make them accountable at home then we'll have something to be completely proud of.
 
Machjo
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I'm all for sending Canadians around the globe maybe it will wake them up a little. Look it's all throwing good money to clean up the bad. When a Peace Corp has the oomph to change our corporate business practices while abroad and make them accountable at home then we'll have something to be completely proud of.

Hmmm... Though I think a Peace Corp would certainly be of benefit, both at home and abroad (it does not need to be reserved exclusively for service abroad), I don't see how it would necessarily improve bad business practices. Could you elaborate on that? Though certainly if I missed something and you could see some way that such a corp could eliminate bad business practices, then that would just be another added bonus to a Peace Corp that I've overlooked. I'd certainly be interested in reading how a Peace Corp could improve business practices.
 
petros
#14
Do we clean up after the wars first then the Canadian mining atrocities second?
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Now you're confusing a few things. For one thing, this is not to say that I agree with everything the Commonwealth does, but it could save administrative costs for Commonwealth countries to share a common Peace Corp.

And as for the US Peace Corp, it's not the US military. It's a totally separate entity, and as far as I can tell, it's done much good work internationally. No it's not perfect, but it's not a bad organization overall, though I'd argue that it has not been as fully exploited by the US as it could have been as an opportunity to educate the population, which is why I'd proposed the addition of education in exchange. It's an idea that reeks of colonialism. The worlds been there and done that. When the Chinese peace corp gets here you'll fathom my point.

So what is it about the US Peace Corp that you're so opposed to?

Where's the beef/peace? The US peace corp was always an extension of US policy by other means, other than peace. Where could the common wealth (if it were to remain extant by some supreme intervention/miracle) find people stupid enough to believe peace would be delivered by former bombing and strafeing types. What you're selling is roughly equivilent to Nazi Germany making the same benevolent offer to it's newly flattened conquests. It will fly like a lead pelican.
 
Machjo
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Where's the beef/peace? The US peace corp was always an extension of US policy by other means, other than peace. Where could the common wealth (if it were do remain extant by some supreme intervention/miracle) find people stupid enough to believe peace would be delivered by former bombing and strafeing types. What you're selling is roughly equivilent to Nazi Germany making the same benevolent offer to it's newly flattened conquests. It will fly like a lead pelican.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that the US Peace Corp was ever used for political motives? I'm not saying that's never happened, but just curious as to your sources. Also, even if it should be proven true, I don't see why a Peace Corp would necessarily have to be tarnished by the actions of governments that have tried to use it wrongfully. I still think the basic concept of a Peace Corp in its own right is a good idea. Beyond rhetoric, what real fault have you revealed about it so far?
 
Machjo
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Do we clean up after the wars first then the Canadian mining atrocities second?

Master Yoda?
 
petros
#18
You need help or someone to take your hand? I'm happilly married and am far too busy making the mess.
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#19
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that the US Peace Corp was ever used for political motives? I'm not saying that's never happened, but just curious as to your sources. Also, even if it should be proven true, I don't see why a Peace Corp would necessarily have to be tarnished by the actions of governments that have tried to use it wrongfully. I still think the basic concept of a Peace Corp in its own right is a good idea. Beyond rhetoric, what real fault have you revealed about it so far?

see Blums Rogue Nation and about a thousand other publications,
 
petros
#20
Would this Peace Corp be far cheaper than the private security teams we hire now to protect CDN resource developers in foreign countries? I hope so cuz i'd like to charge more for working under such radical measures.

Thanks,
 
darkbeaver
Republican
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Do you have any evidence to back up your claim that the US Peace Corp was ever used for political motives? I'm not saying that's never happened, but just curious as to your sources. Also, even if it should be proven true, I don't see why a Peace Corp would necessarily have to be tarnished by the actions of governments that have tried to use it wrongfully. I still think the basic concept of a Peace Corp in its own right is a good idea. Beyond rhetoric, what real fault have you revealed about it so far?

Machjo, you are a good man and you want to see everybody happy, the same power that you want to mobilize to the good work has depended on good honest intentions to work the vilest evil since the beginning. see Trojan Horses. Imperial benevolence is a myth. That is why empires are feared and loathed.
 
Machjo
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Would this Peace Corp be far cheaper than the private security teams we hire now to protect CDN resource developers in foreign countries? I hope so cuz i'd like to charge more for working under such radical measures.

Thanks,

You mean the Canadian taxpayer pays for private security for private for-profit developers abroad? That's just sick! If that's true, they should pay for their own security.

As for whether a Peace Corp would be cheaper or not, I honestly don't know. But at least it would be a better use of resources than to provide private security for for-profit corporations abroad.
 
petros
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

You mean the Canadian taxpayer pays for private security for private for-profit developers abroad? That's just sick! If that's true, they should pay for their own security.

As for whether a Peace Corp would be cheaper or not, I honestly don't know. But at least it would be a better use of resources than to provide private security for for-profit corporations abroad.

If you don't like it call your MP. Matter o' fact I bet you'll be pummeled with "flow through shares" ads telling you that we are building a strong future in "( your province here) resources". Hell I bet half your CPP is invested in offshore resource developments but hey what do I know right?

Psssssssssst. It looks really really really bad on TV when CDN resource exploitation is exposed and there is military around so we went private. Ask your MP..if they are honest they'll tell ya.
Last edited by petros; Jan 30th, 2010 at 11:05 PM..
 
ironsides
No Party Affiliation
#24
The very organization that started all this trouble? Don't think any decedents of mother England should be involved in anything to do with peace. In Approx. 156 Christianity reached England and we have been fighting over it ever since.
 
ironsides
No Party Affiliation
#25
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Spade
Free Thinker
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by ironsidesView Post

The very organization that started all this trouble? Don't think any decedents of mother England should be involved in anything to do with peace. In Approx. 156 Christianity reached England and we have been fighting over it ever since.

It may have reached England but never took hold.
 
petros
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

It may have reached England but never took hold.

Does that make them rotten to the Corps without even trying?
 
ironsides
No Party Affiliation
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

It may have reached England but never took hold.

What ya talking about, Christianity took hold big time in the British Isles, there still bickering over it today.
 
EagleSmack
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post


So what is it about the US Peace Corp that you're so opposed to?

The US part is my guess.
 
EagleSmack
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by ironsidesView Post

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