Are we (Canadians) really that dirty?


Johnnny
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I seen on ctv today, some organization ranked us last of the G8 countries in being environmentally friendly, and cleaning up our act, cutting emmisions... Is this true, do we as Canadians not care about our environment??? Im not trying to get emotional and all touchy touchy feely, or pointing fingers im just curious what is the real situation??
 
Colpy
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Yeah.

Even those evil Yankees are ahead of us....

I laughed myself silly a few years ago when Canadian environmental groups went ballistic over a gov't proposal to adopt American standards for diesal fuel.......

the green folks naturally assumed it was a wicked American plot to foul our air and poison us....in such typical knee-jerk Canadian idiot fashion.

Turned out the US standards were MUCH tougher.......
 
Ron in Regina
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It's one of those comparisons that is done per capita. Due to Canada's relatively low
population, and the fact that it's a major oil exporter, it looks really bad. If it wasn't
just the G8, but all countries, Canada would still look bad compared to...lets say
China....'cuz they're thick on the ground and we are not.



We can & need to do better. Everyone can & needs to do better. I'm just offering
perspective.
 
darkbeaver
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How does CO2 get up in the atmosphere?
 
missile
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Our ranking depends on the agenda the organization is pushing, or the product they represent. My belief is we live closer to Nature than most nations due to our terrible climate.
 
darkbeaver
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Terrible but very organic, lots of fresh cool air, lots of moisture sometimes available in easy to managed frozen packages. It's all about marketing.
 
VanIsle
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Quote: Originally Posted by missileView Post

Our ranking depends on the agenda the organization is pushing, or the product they represent. My belief is we live closer to Nature than most nations due to our terrible climate.

Not all of us think we have a terrible climate. For the most part - I'm pretty happy with the climate I live in.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by missileView Post

Our ranking depends on the agenda the organization is pushing, or the product they represent. My belief is we live closer to Nature than most nations due to our terrible climate.

Believe it or not, I spent a winter in Central America and missed the snow.
 
ironsides
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I am happy with the climate in Florida, little warm at times but clean. What so called pollution we do get (dust, sand) is blown across the Atlantic from the Sahara Desert.
 
YukonJack
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"I am happy with the climate in Florida, little warm at times but clean. What so called pollution we do get (dust, sand) is blown across the Atlantic from the Sahara Desert."

ironsides, since the prevailing winds are from the West, the dust and the sand more likey have come from California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, than from the Sahara Desert.
 
Liberalman
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Canada's air would have been clean but the Conservatives got elected
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Canada's air would have been clean but the Conservatives got elected

I suppose liberal crap don't stink!

Personally, all political crap smells the same.
 
Nuggler
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We're all a bunch of dirty bastards.

Canadians that is.

I can't speak for anyone else.

I can't speak at all.

But I'm still one of many dirty bastards.

hee hee hee.
 
#juan
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Canada is as clean as any industrialized country except for the tar sands.
 
ironsides
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Quote: Originally Posted by YukonJackView Post

"I am happy with the climate in Florida, little warm at times but clean. What so called pollution we do get (dust, sand) is blown across the Atlantic from the Sahara Desert."

ironsides, since the prevailing winds are from the West, the dust and the sand more likey have come from California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, than from the Sahara Desert.


Where I am the winds come off Africa (most of the time), along with most of the hurricane's, swing in clockwise, then turn up the coast. The dividing line for counter clockwise is around Cape Kennedy, I am near Ft. Lauderdale further south.
 
Polygong
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Canada's air would have been clean but the Conservatives got elected

The Liberals were just as bad.

This is an issue which transcends political parties, Canada as a whole are terrible when it comes to environmental repsonsibility. Only Australia is as bad as we are.
 
EagleSmack
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Clean up this pigsty you filthy Canadians!

Is that you over there Juan? Playing in the darn tar sands again!

What's that all over you Ron... F*ing Maple Syrup?!?!?!

Dog gone it Wolf...tracking mud all over! Clean up them paws!

Karrie! Are you kidding me! There's more nail polish on the floor than on your nails!

Geez!
 
karrie
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How do they measure it? By population?

Because we have one of the most sparse populations spread over one of the largest areas, and live in some of the coldest climates. Our petrochemical usage because of that alone must be HUGE compared to other countries. Then factor in our damn short days, and we must be burning up scads of electricity compared to some.

Not that we can't try to make it better, but, somehow I feel we're never going to measure up to tighter packed populations in more temperate climates, when it comes to energy usage and thus pollution.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Karrie! Are you kidding me! There's more nail polish on the floor than on your nails!

Geez!

It's not my fault that no one will pay for my fricking pedicures!!!
 
Tonington
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Quote: Originally Posted by karrieView Post

Then factor in our damn short days, and we must be burning up scads of electricity compared to some.

True, but because of the large amount of hydro power here in Canada, our carbon dioxide emissions are the lowest per kilowatt hour, at about one quarter kilogram of carbon dioxide per kilowatt hour. We could lower this score much more, just by increasing the mixture of natural gas in a coal-fired generation station.

For this report it only matters from what source the electricity comes from, not the actual consumption. If we had the same high consumption, and it was all renewable/nuclear, then there wouldn't be too much problem there.

The scores are rankings for each category, based on per capita numbers.
 
Liberalman
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Enviromentalists just like to complain so they can get more donations but they will never come up with a solution because that would hurt their them in donations

Ther just like those TV preachers giving you another heartbreak store so you will send them cash.

Greenpeace more like Green Piece likes to use the media so they bought some boats and they are always trying to head off the whalers so they can get more money.

The last thing these people want is a solution
 
petros
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Yeah...this place is a pig sty.

I'll give you a dollar if you drink from a puddle and live.
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Enviromentalists just like to complain so they can get more donations but they will never come up with a solution because that would hurt their them in donations

Ther just like those TV preachers giving you another heartbreak store so you will send them cash.

Greenpeace more like Green Piece likes to use the media so they bought some boats and they are always trying to head off the whalers so they can get more money.

The last thing these people want is a solution



Its actually a darn good thing that we have dedicated environmentalists who are out there putting a spot light on all sorts of things. Why? Because for the vast majority of Canadians, we are environmentalists. Nobody wants to see garbage piling up, and wilderness become barren waste. But we all have to go to work everyday, therefore these hippies, in a way, represent the green opinions we all have. So you can't say that environmental groups are only in it for the donations, they genuinely do care about protecting the air, water, and land that all Canadians need.

As for whether or not we're dirty. I certainly think so. I'm sure good 'ol towns are different, but in the city, there's trash everywhere. On the sidewalks, in the alleyz, on trails. I bet I could find 10 cigarette butts in 5 minutes.
 
taxslave
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Statistics and lies. Not much difference. We are an oil exporting nation with a small population and their figures are based on production not usage. As usual the ecoterrorists manipulate the truth to get more donations.
 
petros
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We are an oil exporting nation ....

Big deal. There are plenty of oil producing nations where you can drink from a puddle and live. Just not this one...Why?
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Statistics and lies. Not much difference. We are an oil exporting nation with a small population and their figures are based on production not usage. As usual the ecoterrorists manipulate the truth to get more donations.

What ecoterrorists? The hippies who rightly so, want to shut down the precious Vancouver Island fishery? Or the the one or two idiots who blew up the gas lines in the interior?
 
Liberalman
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That’s what I am saying is that environmentalists are complainers and don’t offer any solutions.

They are the same ones that are starving the inuits because they eat seal, whale and dolphins.

Environmentalists use the money to have parties and get drunk and smoke pot and they never come up with an answer
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Big deal. There are plenty of oil producing nations where you can drink from a puddle and live. Just not this one...Why?

There are cities on this planet bigger than any in canada where you can walk in bare feet, not get sick or cut your feet on broken glass. Why?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayzView Post

What ecoterrorists? The hippies who rightly so, want to shut down the precious Vancouver Island fishery? Or the the one or two idiots who blew up the gas lines in the interior?

Ever caught a wild steelhead?
 
In Between Man
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Ever caught a wild steelhead?

Yup. I'm an avid fisherman.
 

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