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Cannuck
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#1Jun 26th, 2009
CTV.ca | Canadians should be allowed to vote online: report


"OTTAWA -- Allowing Canadians to vote electronically may be the remedy for the ever-dwindling percentage of voters who bother to exercise their democratic rights, Elections Canada suggests. In a report released late Friday, the independent electoral watchdog says it will push this fall for legislative changes that would allow it to implement online registration of voters.
And it wants parliamentary approval to conduct an electronic voting test-run in a byelection by 2013"


The only problem I can see here is that we won't be able to tell if the Muslim women are wearing their burkas. I'm not sure if we can have that.
 
In Between Man
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Jun 26th, 2009
too bad progress is slow and the gov likely won't introduce it...
 
betseygirl
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Jun 26th, 2009
this would be a good step but i dont think it would increase voting percentages much, some people just don't make the effort to vote because some people basically do not care.
 
In Between Man
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by betseygirlView Post

this would be a good step but i dont think it would increase voting percentages much, some people just don't make the effort to vote because some people basically do not care.

Well what kind of people are they if they have an attitude like that??!!

Democracy is the best system we have until Jesus comes back!

PEOPLE DIED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TRUE FREEDOM! THAT INCLUDES THE FREEDOM TO SPEAK, VOTE!!!

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DEBATE!
 
betseygirl
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayzView Post

Well what kind of people are they if they have an attitude like that??!!

Democracy is the best system we have until Jesus comes back!

PEOPLE DIED SO THAT WE COULD HAVE TRUE FREEDOM! THAT INCLUDES THE FREEDOM TO SPEAK, VOTE!!!

I CHALLENGE YOU TO A DEBATE!

Whoaaa...Calm down! I'm just saying that I know a lot of people that do not vote because they really do not care to. I do not mean that they do not care our government and what not. I'm just saying that some people don't vote because they say who cares? My vote won't make a difference. A lot of people just generally think that their vote is not going to make a difference since they are only one person.
 
In Between Man
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by betseygirlView Post

Whoaaa...Calm down! I'm just saying that I know a lot of people that do not vote because they really do not care to. I do not mean that they do not care our government and what not. I'm just saying that some people don't vote because they say who cares? My vote won't make a difference. A lot of people just generally think that their vote is not going to make a difference since they are only one person.

Oh, yeah, sorry bout that. I failed to mention that I stubbed my toe when I was replying to your treasonous speech against freedom. Usually I'm more relaxed when someone attempts to point out that non voters are normal people like the rest of us.

Seriously though, I hear ya. This last provincial election, I didn't bother. There was a really good show on.
 
betseygirl
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayzView Post

Oh, yeah, sorry bout that. I failed to mention that I stubbed my toe when I was replying to your treasonous speech against freedom. Usually I'm more relaxed when someone attempts to point out that non voters are normal people like the rest of us.

Seriously though, I hear ya. This last provincial election, I didn't bother. There was a really good show on.

Treasonous speech against freedom??

HAHA!

Okay, now I believe you are a hypocrite my friend. Even I went out and voted, I always vote and no show takes precedence. Learn to follow what you preach buddy.
 
In Between Man
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by betseygirlView Post

Treasonous speech against freedom??

HAHA!

Okay, now I believe you are a hypocrite my friend. Even I went out and voted, I always vote and no show takes precedence. Learn to follow what you preach buddy.

And EXACTLY HOW MANY times have you voted before???
 
betseygirl
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayzView Post

And EXACTLY HOW MANY times have you voted before???

HA! I knew you were going to say something along those lines...... A few...
 
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Jun 27th, 2009
The reason no one is voting, is simply because there is no one worth voting for, because no matter what happens, there will never be the perfect leader...all this will do is allow the few lazy people who have absolutely nothing going on that night, to stay home and eat tv dinners and vote online.
 
VanIsle
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by MrRightView Post

The reason no one is voting, is simply because there is no one worth voting for, because no matter what happens, there will never be the perfect leader...all this will do is allow the few lazy people who have absolutely nothing going on that night, to stay home and eat tv dinners and vote online.

You are right. There is no one worth voting for either provincially or federally. However, someone is going to win the vote so we should vote just to be sure that we get the best of the worst. They would have to set it up so that we all have one specific voting number to register with. Who cares if you sit home with a TV dinner or vote and go out for the night. Just vote.
 
Cliffy
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Jun 27th, 2009
I always vote fringe parties. The main parties are just shills for the ruling class. youz gets what youz pays for. If youz don't vote, don't whine about the screwin' youz gets. At least I can legitimately whine.
 
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

I always vote fringe parties. The main parties are just shills for the ruling class. youz gets what youz pays for. If youz don't vote, don't whine about the screwin' youz gets. At least I can legitimately whine.

Nah, I don't buy that cliché. I once compared the relative votes required to elect an NDP MP vs. a Lib/Con/PQ and was astounded to learn it took basically twice as many votes. Not all votes are counted equally in our electoral system. If I want to complain about the electoral system, by rights I should not endorse it by voting.

Further, that cliché flies in the face of the theory of statistical sampling. In the end, one vote just does not change the outcome. Also, do I lose the right to complain about the person I voted for, since it was my choice?

Casting a vote once every few years is hardly democracy. There are better ways. Every time somebody fails to show up to vote it should be interpreted as a lack of faith in the system. Failing to endorse the system should not be seen as acquiescence.
 
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

CTV.ca | Canadians should be allowed to vote online: "OTTAWA -- Allowing Canadians to vote electronically may be the remedy for the ever-dwindling percentage of voters who bother to exercise their democratic rights, Elections Canada suggests. In a report released late Friday, the independent electoral watchdog says it will push this fall for legislative changes that would allow it to implement online registration of voters.
And it wants parliamentary approval to conduct an electronic voting test-run in a byelection by 2013"


The only problem I can see here is that we won't be able to tell if the Muslim women are wearing their burkas. I'm not sure if we can have that.

Computers are great, but they're not necessarily the right tool for every job. Electronic voting can easily be human rigged.

What if the law included that the Burka must be pink, yellow, or green, rather than the traditional black and white. Would that help?
 
Ariadne
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Jun 27th, 2009
... blame the French.
 
petros
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Jun 27th, 2009
Make voting mandatory.
 
VanIsle
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Jun 27th, 2009
I agree with you and said that sometime ago. I think anyone who doesn't vote should receive a fine (via mail). Points on one's D.L. should do it.
 
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Jun 27th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

I always vote fringe parties. The main parties are just shills for the ruling class. youz gets what youz pays for. If youz don't vote, don't whine about the screwin' youz gets. At least I can legitimately whine.

Cliffy this can backfire. Our here we voted reform for years as a protest against the two eastern parties because we thought nobody would take them seriously. Now look what happened. They went and bought one of the eastern parties and we are still being f##ked over by Ontario and Quebec.
Other than that I believe that anyone who cannot be bothered to vote has no right to bitch.
Not too sure about internet voting. I don't see how it can be kept honest. If kids can hack into US military computers it probably wouldn't be too hard to rig a vote. After all the CIA did it for junior. Twice.
 
Francis2004
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Jun 28th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by VanIsleView Post

I agree with you and said that sometime ago. I think anyone who doesn't vote should receive a fine (via mail). Points on one's D.L. should do it.

I disagree on the D.L points.. If they don't hand them out for Photo Camera lights why hand them out for not voting..

That said, a nice big binding fine in the mail that would tab onto your income tax / Health Care would be just as effective..
 
VanIsle
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Jun 28th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by Francis2004View Post

I disagree on the D.L points.. If they don't hand them out for Photo Camera lights why hand them out for not voting..

That said, a nice big binding fine in the mail that would tab onto your income tax / Health Care would be just as effective..

I see you are here. There seems to be some confusion in my house as to what photo camera lights are. Please explain. I agree with what you say. Whatever it takes to make sure people vote (and that it is them voting).
 
Chev
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Jun 28th, 2009
VanIsle, I think the Photo Camera Lights means something to do with photo radar, etc. You don't get demerits when you get caught on photo radar. I'm not sure I agree with punishment for not voting. I always vote, regardless how bad the choices are, but if I said to heck with it, I would think that should be my choice.
 
Chev
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Jun 28th, 2009
As far as voting online, the powers that be would have to come up with a way that a person could not vote more than once, but if there's more that one voting age person in one house, everyone would have their chance to vote. i.e. Idol reality shows, people can vote 'hundreds' of times. A newspaper poll, a person (a computer, IP address(?) can only vote once. How, then, would more than one voting age person in one house be able to vote?
 
Chev
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Jun 28th, 2009
I'm not sure how people can say work schedules as a reason for not voting. Isn't there something that says businesses have to give employees a certain amount of time during the hours the polls are open to go vote?
 
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Jun 28th, 2009
If you want more people to come out and vote then get rid of the political surveys.

If you get rid of the political surveys then people will have the motivation to vote because they won’t know who’s leading so their vote will mean something.

All the media should be reporting is the platforms of the different parties or independents.

Polls give an inaccurate representation on who will win because they are based on 500 to 5,000 surveys.

When a person reads the polls and see that a certain candidate or party is leading by a certain percentage then they feel they’re vote won’t help.

I don’t agree with electronic voting because hackers can manipulate it.

Mail-in ballots are better because there is a paper trail and more secure.

We have to remember that the veterans that died for us fought for our freedoms of the right to vote.

They did not fight to force us to vote.

When people don’t go out to vote they are saying that it really doesn’t matter who wins they all will do a good job.
 
Cliffy
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Re: Online Voting

Jun 28th, 2009
Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post


When people don’t go out to vote they are saying that it really doesn’t matter who wins they all will do a good job.

Mostly, I think, they don't vote because they know they will do a bad job and our system sucks. If you want people to know what is going on, publish contributions to parties by lobbyists. They are the real power behind the government. Our votes doesn't carry near as much weight as money does. The media manipulate popular trends with their opinions and character assassinations of people they don't want getting elected.
 

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