France Wants To Ban Full Head Covering On Muslim Women


SirJosephPorter
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Want your own religious schools, no problem, pay for it yourself. Want to learn your old country's language, no problem, pay for it yourself. No tax dollars should go here, especially nowadays.

I don’t think any tax dollars go to such purposes, dumpthemonarchy. I have heard of government paying for teaching the immigrant adults to learn English, but I haven’t heard any government paying for immigrants to learn their own language.

As to religious schools, in the last election here in Ontario the conservative leader John Tory made a big issue out of funding religious schools. He wanted to fund all kinds of religious schools, including Islamic Madrasaas. He got a lot of flak for that. Liberals would probably have won anyway. However, because of the nutty position adopted by Tory, Liberals ended up with an increased majority in the provincial assembly.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Want your own religious schools, no problem, pay for it yourself. Want to learn your old country's language, no problem, pay for it yourself. No tax dollars should go here, especially nowadays.

I don’t think any tax dollars go to such purposes, dumpthemonarchy. I have heard of government paying for teaching the immigrant adults to learn English, but I haven’t heard any government paying for immigrants to learn their own language.

As to religious schools, in the last election here in Ontario the conservative leader John Tory made a big issue out of funding religious schools. He wanted to fund all kinds of religious schools, including Islamic Madrasaas. He got a lot of flak for that. Liberals would probably have won anyway. However, because of the nutty position adopted by Tory, Liberals ended up with an increased majority in the provincial assembly.

I was reading this in the local newspapers recently how parents want Chinese to be taught in schools in Metro Vancouver. I'm not against learning another language, but there are other priorities such as remedial classes for students who want to go to university, or heaven forbid, keeping taxes down.

I never heard that about John Tory, good thing he lost. This is just appeasing minorities too much. Minorities and the wealthy make an uncoordinated attack on the public school system by keeping their kids out of it. The public school system is one of the cornerstones of democracy.

In BC, the Campbell Liberals starve schools of funds because they want privatization here. My sister is constantly getting requests from her kids to buy more stuff at school and hold endless fundraising events. Money should be taken away from religious/independent schools and put into public school libraries.
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Money should be taken away from religious/independent schools and put into public school libraries.

Tax religion and then there would be no shortage of money for education and health care.
 
strange
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i actually have no problem with this. Although France has problems with its Muslim minority (riots 2 year ago) they have always had a assimilation culture.
 
ironsides
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France should ban it or they will lose their identity.
 
ironsides
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Watch this clip from CBN News in Paris
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Durry
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France should ban Muslim immigration to their country.
France is a Christian country and a democracy. Both of these charaterisics do not comply with the Muslim faith.
Muslims should stay in the countries they built. You don't see Christians wanting to immigrate to Muslim countries.
Muslims are always looking for somebody to look after them. Just look at who is doing all the actual work in the oil producing middle eastern countries!!
 
ironsides
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Just a little info. There was report a while back that a school in Massachusetts sent permission slips home with the students. They need parental permission for the students in order for them to say the Pledge in the classroom. (No Joking) Are you angry enough to write to your state representative? Or are you going to be passive and let this country go down in history as the greatest country in the world who lost its glory and splendor because Americans became apathetic or had too many other things to
do. Just a thought...


This should be Posted in every school in the " USA "




Only 31 words --- Think about it
Isn't life strange?

I never met one Veteran who enlisted to
Fight for Socialism

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG,
OF THE UNITED STATES OF
AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR
WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION
UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH
LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL!

If Muslims can pray on Madison Avenue, why are Christians banned from praying in public and erecting religious displays on their
holy days?
What happened to our National Day of Prayer? Obama says we can't have that, yet Muslims are allowed to block off Madison Ave. In N.Y. And pray in the middle of the street! And, it's a monthly ritual!


Tell me again, whose country is this? Ours or the Muslims?


Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a problem in having 'In God! We Trust' on our money and having
'God'in the Pledge of Allegiance.

I believe it's time we stand up for what we believe!
 
Durry
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It is common practice here in Canada the school kids of Muslim faith will not sing OCanada or God Save the Q in schools because there Muslim parents forbid them to do so.
This is even they have pleadged alliance to the Queen to get their citizenship, but now they have it, it's back to their believes!!
The teachers in these schools protect these students from this becoming too public. I think it happened to get in public in Sask. and they try to keep it a low profile in other schools.
 
mentalfloss
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Durry, you are something else, lol
 
YukonJack
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ironsides, FDR knew exactly what to do with people who perpetrated an unprovoked attack.

If GWB had done the same instead of uttering the words which will go down in history as the most idiotic words ever spoken by a head of state (Islam is a religion of peace!) this would be a different - better - world.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

It is common practice here in Canada the school kids of Muslim faith will not sing OCanada or God Save the Q in schools because there Muslim parents forbid them to do so.
This is even they have pleadged alliance to the Queen to get their citizenship, but now they have it, it's back to their believes!!
The teachers in these schools protect these students from this becoming too public. I think it happened to get in public in Sask. and they try to keep it a low profile in other schools.


It's also common practice for Jehovah's Witnesses to refuse the sing the national anthem.

By the way, it's common practice for people to not sing along with the anthem at hockey games, some don't stand at attention, some even don't take off their hats. Horror!

Maybe we could just shoot everyone who doesn't act the way 'we' think they should.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

It's also common practice for Jehovah's Witnesses to refuse the sing the national anthem.

By the way, it's common practice for people to not sing along with the anthem at hockey games, some don't stand at attention, some even don't take off their hats. Horror!

Maybe we could just shoot everyone who doesn't act the way 'we' think they should.

We won't go anywhere unless have an aggressive sense of nationalism!!

Or something..
 
MHz
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[QUOTE=TenPenny;1411711
Maybe we could just shoot everyone who doesn't act the way 'we' think they should.[/QUOTE]
That is exactly what 'we' (the West) have always done. We even shot the Chinese who sold us the first gunpowder.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

By the way, it's common practice for people to not sing along with the anthem at hockey games, some don't stand at attention, some even don't take off their hats. Horror!
d.

Yeah, the're probably Muslims, did you check ??...... Lol !!
 
MHz
#106
The arenas only care that it is a full house, imagine making it mandatory, that would fold the sports industry, schools would have more teachers than students, all sorts of changes would happen, some might even be for the better as these aren't Christian inspired events.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

these aren't Christian inspired events.

Are you sure ??
 
cranky
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If i overlook the fact that this is a france story in a canadian politics thread...

Being able to see the face is not a valid concern in canada,as we allow voters to vote by mail.
 
ironsides
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Voting is not the problem in the U.S. either what is the problem as simple as a picture on a drivers license and any other documents requiring a photo.
 
damngrumpy
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Lets get this straight the head covering is about tradition it is not part of the religion. This is
the great deception that keeps getting repeated. If it were about religion that's one thing but
this is about traditions versus what the religion dictates. It is time to quit playing games and
claiming everyone is being persecuted they are not, in fact in many cases the people coming
here are often attempting to subvert everyone to their will instead of the will of the nation.
Frankly I am getting sick of it. I have friends of many different faiths and ethnic backgrounds
and I am the same way with them as I am here. If you came to Canada, this should be your
primary nation of concern. Secondly Muslim Children should learn the same things in school
that other children learn including music and physical education. We are a society not a small
set of tribal communities and we work for the betterment of the entire community not just our
own little group, and if newcomers can't grasp that concept perhaps they should find a new
place to live. Personally I have lived here all my life and I don't mind making some changes to
accommodate my new neighbours, however I am not willing to change everything to please
someone who has been here the equivalent of ten minutes in time, and already they want to
remodel my house. Canadians had better get off their dead a** and onto their dying feet and
do something about this.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Canadians had better get off their dead a** and onto their dying feet and
do something about this.

Do something ???? Hey what happened to your accommodating nature???
Muslims want to do what they did in their country, in this country!! Somebody told them you were accommodating ???

Do you know that a powerful group of Muslims have bought a large block of land on the outskirts/near Toronto and Calgary. Their plan is to have a subdivision of the city which will be restricted to be occupied by Muslims only. They don't say, but I suspect they will apply their own laws (sharia) within Canadian law ie their mola (or who ever does this) will be the finally authority on disputes between Muslims.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Personally I have lived here all my life and I don't mind making some changes to accommodate my new neighbours, however

Out of curosity, what changes did you family make when coming over?
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Do something ???? Hey what happened to your accommodating nature???
Muslims want to do what they did in their country, in this country!! Somebody told them you were accommodating ???

Do you know that a powerful group of Muslims have bought a large block of land on the outskirts/near Toronto and Calgary. Their plan is to have a subdivision of the city which will be restricted to be occupied by Muslims only. They don't say, but I suspect they will apply their own laws (sharia) within Canadian law ie their mola (or who ever does this) will be the finally authority on disputes between Muslims.

YouTube - Accommodements raisonnables

 
Durry
#114
I wish I could understand French now ?
 
cranky
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Quote: Originally Posted by damngrumpyView Post

Lets get this straight the head covering is about tradition it is not part of the religion. This is
the great deception that keeps getting repeated. If it were about religion that's one thing but
this is about traditions versus what the religion dictates. It is time to quit playing games and
claiming everyone is being persecuted they are not, in fact in many cases the people coming
here are often attempting to subvert everyone to their will instead of the will of the nation.
Frankly I am getting sick of it. I have friends of many different faiths and ethnic backgrounds
and I am the same way with them as I am here. If you came to Canada, this should be your
primary nation of concern. Secondly Muslim Children should learn the same things in school
that other children learn including music and physical education. We are a society not a small
set of tribal communities and we work for the betterment of the entire community not just our
own little group, and if newcomers can't grasp that concept perhaps they should find a new
place to live. Personally I have lived here all my life and I don't mind making some changes to
accommodate my new neighbours, however I am not willing to change everything to please
someone who has been here the equivalent of ten minutes in time, and already they want to
remodel my house. Canadians had better get off their dead a** and onto their dying feet and
do something about this.

I dont care if its a religious or traditional headwear. Either way is a non issue as long as we allow voters to vote by mail.
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by crankyView Post

I dont care if its a religious or traditional headwear. Either way is a non issue as long as we allow voters to vote by mail.

It's also protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by crankyView Post

I dont care if its a religious or traditional headwear. Either way is a non issue as long as we allow voters to vote by mail.

That's the second time you write that and it's not as simple as you make it seem........
You need to have you credential verified by someone who is qualified to give an oath eg "Justice of the peace"
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

It's also protected by the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

of course.......


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YouTube - Arab Woman Eating Spaghetti - Funny




YouTube - Woman Eating in Burka

 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

of course.......


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Is that supposed to change my mind? Or make me laugh?
 
DaSleeper
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Is that supposed to change my mind? Or make me laugh?

OK....how about a chuckle
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

OK....how about a chuckle

Would you settle for a giggle with a side of gingerale in my lower sinus's?

 

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